3rd Party Home Pages

J.R. Miller
J.R. Miller Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum
I cannot access all my books yet since they are on a shared folder on my Mac drive.



But, does v4 have a way to open or use the 3rd party home pages?



Example,



The Piper Sermon home page allowed searching of Piper's stuff, it had all his sermons accessible by date preached, by topic, and by verse.



Will this be accessible again in v4?



Will these home pages be updated through the automated system Bob talked about, or will we have to reinstall from the original disks?

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  • Bob Pritchett
    Bob Pritchett Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,280
    We're not planning to continue support for third-party home pages, though I'm very interested to hear what people did like about them and what functionality you want kept.

    There wasn't much functionality in most of these (maybe a list of books and a way to search just those books, which you can do with series and collections in 4.0), and they started to clutter up systems. It was easy to have lots of them, at which point they didn't seem like much of a help.
  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,871

    Rather than 3rd party homepages, I'd love a pretty customizable homepage with things like

    1. Read plan
    2. Commentary excerpts from today's reading
    3. Excerpt from devotional read for the day
    4. Nicely formatted prayer list
    5. Perhaps RSS feeds?

    etc 

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

  • J.R. Miller
    J.R. Miller Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭
    HI Bob,
    The only one I used was the Piper one I mentioned. I listed the things I liked about how it made it easy to find the different sermons. I am open to other ways of doing the same thing through a saved page of some kind, but I would not know how to do that.

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  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭

    A good question Joe, I had been wondering about this issue.  I agree with you Bob that in the end these just clutter up the system but at the same time they do provided access to extra material.  The issue with Piper library that joe raises is one, another is a lot of author libraries have included additional audio and video material that these home pages act as indexes of for these files. Does this mean we are no longer going to be able to use these as part of our Libronix install and that we are going to have to manually create our own html listing of these to have an index of them ?  Some of these even go back to the old LLS2.0 overview books that we had prior to home pages in Series X, in paricular I am thinking of resources put out by Logos South Africa Office that have never been converted to LBXLLS format files.  Wha is the future of these ?  Are we going to have to go back to re-installing LL2.0 so we can continue to use these resources ?

  • Graham Owen
    Graham Owen Member Posts: 665

    The only Home Page that I use on a regular basis is the one supplied with the Standard Lesson Commentary, so that I can keep track of the lessons. I'm sure that there is another, possibly better, way that I could do this if the Home Page was not there.

    God Bless

    Graham

    Pastor - NTCOG Basingstoke

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    I loved how the theological journals homepage would (on first load) generate a collection of all the journals.  It was the only time I would use the 3rd party home page but I did love that feature.

     

    I'll second the request to enable some custom RSS feeds on the home page.  I'd love to keep up with a few relevant biblioblogs.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Bob Pritchett
    Bob Pritchett Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,280

    Are we going to have to go back to re-installing LL2.0 so we can continue to use these resources ?

    Worst case, you can keep running 3.0. Our goal is to bring over everything we can (even if some things wait for 4.1), but the good news is that 4.0 pretty much leaves your 3.0 installation alone. 

  • Alex Scott
    Alex Scott Member Posts: 718

    That's good to hear.  I suppose after a while 3.0 resources won''t be updated but at least we'll be no worse off if 4.0 isn't to our liking in every area.

    What about new resources?  Will they be formatted in such a way that they will work only on 4, much like some of the newer resources now are not recognized by older versions of 3?

    Longtime Logos user (more than $30,000 in purchases) - now a second class user because I won't pay them more every month or year.

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭


    Are we going to have to go back to re-installing LL2.0 so we can continue to use these resources ?

    Worst case, you can keep running 3.0. Our goal is to bring over everything we can (even if some things wait for 4.1), but the good news is that 4.0 pretty much leaves your 3.0 installation alone. 


     

    Ok Thanks, I was under the impression that at some point in the process 4.0 was going to overwrite 3.0.  Good to here that is not going to happen particularly with parts of 3.0 going to be missing from 4.0, will that though mean maintaining separate resource directories and therefore need to have space to duplicate files we want to acccess in both versions.

  • SteveF
    SteveF Member Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭

    That is good to know because otherwise it will be very difficult to be able to access my Max Lucado tapes/audio.

    As of now I have hidden them away out of the reference path, along with my PBB's, Logos 2 resources and pre March 2006 lbxlls resources.

    And unless I can soon find a way to "hide" the Targums and Paprii they will be the next to go.

    Steve

    Regards, SteveF

  • Jim Fulford
    Jim Fulford Member Posts: 38 ✭✭

    HI Bob, The only one I used was the Piper one I mentioned. I listed the things I liked about how it made it easy to find the different sermons. I am open to other ways of doing the same thing through a saved page of some kind, but I would not know how to do that.

    Bob, I will also put a vote in for the functionality if the Piper page. I would greatly miss it's functionality with the Piper Sermons.

    Laptop:Vista Business SP2 32-bit OS / Intel Duo Core P8400@2.26Ghz / 3-Gigs RAM

  • John Norman
    John Norman Member Posts: 66 ✭✭

    Generally, I like the Homepages for the links they provide to resources outside of Logos proper such as Powerpoints, PDFs, or MP3 files...   My biggest complaint is that most of them were 90% identical...   If anything, I say let 3rd parties add a plugin to the Logos Home page, in the way iGoogle does with theirs, but only if it brings something new... 

  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,871

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    If anything, I say let 3rd parties add a plugin to the Logos Home page, in the way iGoogle does with theirs, but only if it brings something new... 

    WOuldn't this be instantly available if a simple RDF / RSS solution was used?  We already get Logos Blog and Morris Proctors.  Why not permit other RSS Feeds? Of course then we get RSS feeder requests so it can be a negative.  So just leak which XML file some wild hacker could use to put their own RSS feeds there if they wanted to.  We'll do the rest. [:)]

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • John Norman
    John Norman Member Posts: 66 ✭✭

    Assuming the 3rd party wanted to give away the plug-in free, then yes...   Some of the vendors may want to sell their new functionality...  Now you have moved beyond a simple RSS Feed...  [^o)]