BUG: Scary library data
See http://community.logos.com/forums/p/85291/597919.aspx#597919 This may be something more systemic ... at least I didn't know St. John of the Cross wrote Latin catechisms.
Broader view:
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Yep, the metadata are wrong:
Maybe something known as "hallway testing" would help in metadata QA: just giving the metadata and the title page to someone unrelated to the process and telling this person he/she gets x$ Logos Credit if they detect something unusual - why would a resource be tagged as subject:"catholic church--catechisms--latin" but language:English? Answer: the subject is wrong.
This mythical hallway-tester for metadata might also question whether apostolic exhortation "A new hope for Lebanon" is rightly flagged as subject:"Catholic Church--Catechisms" (I don't think so) and whether its language:French flag is correct (unfortunately: yes, but then the title should better be "Une Espérance Nouvelle Pour Le Liban" as given on the title page)
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I think there needs to be more "hallway testing" of metadata in general within the halls of Logos, before releasing new resources. But if it's cheaper/quicker/easier for them to give Logos Credit to users for finding metadata problems, then maybe that would be an acceptable solution.
However, if they're going to do that, they need to start paying attention again to the metadata bugs we are already reporting. Absolutely no interaction from Logos on http://wiki.logos.com/Metadata_correction_proposals in the past 7 months. Discouraging. I can see why some people have started reporting metadata bugs on the forums instead. At least they seem to get a bit more attention here.
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Thank you. We'll look into it.
We also addressed some cases on the metadata correction proposals page.
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
We also addressed some cases on the metadata correction proposals page.
Woohoo! Thank you, Kyle. Keep it up! [:)]
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Kyle G. Anderson said:
We also addressed some cases on the metadata correction proposals page.
Good start. Now keep it up.[:)]
• You changed the type for Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. Did you also change the title? Surely it should be called Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. The New Testament, and not just The New Testament?
• "Tanakh (two editions) – the titles should be the same on logos.com and in the metadata, see http://community.logos.com/forums/t/73657.aspx
- I’m afraid this is a symptom of differing standards and philosophies between departments. It’s not going to be resolved any time soon."
- Sorry, but that's not good enough. We have to be able to find the books we buy in our libraries! Resolve it.
• OP: It doesn't make sense that the two volumes of The Complete Works of Saint John of the Cross have two completely different sets of subjects.
• Some further catechism issues:
- A Catechism should be Catechisms, English, not Greek, and it should also be added to one or more of the subjects for Orthodox catechisms.
- It makes little sense to have one subject called Catholic Church--Catechismus Ecclesiae Catholicae and one called Catholic Church. Catechismus Ecclesiae Catholicae. The latter is most likely a typo.
- It also makes little sense that neither of them actually includes the Catechismus Ecclesiae Catholicae.[:^)]
- All resources under Catholic Church--Catechisms should also appear under Catholic Church--Catechisms--<language>, and all resources under one of the latter should also appear under the former.
- All Catholic catechisms are by definition catechisms, so there should be at least the same number of books in the general categories as in the equivalent Catholic categories, and most likely more.
- I haven't checked, but it seems likely that the latter errors may also occur for other subjects including a language or a denomination in the subject name.
- The errors for A New Hope for Lebanon remain.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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Does Logos have a policy of simply copying the Library of Congress data for subjects? I don't know and can't quickly check.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Does Logos have a policy of simply copying the Library of Congress data for subjects? I don't know and can't quickly check.
I hope not. The Library of Congress is terrible at using its own classification system to classify almost anything theological.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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MJ. Smith said:
Does Logos have a policy of simply copying the Library of Congress data for subjects?
They used to, I believe, and that's probably where most of the errors come from, but as I understand it, they've moved away from that, so at least newly shipped books should be correct.
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