Mac OSX 10.10 (Yosemite)

Apple announced their new desktop OS (OSX 10.10) called Yosemite. One new feature that I am excited to see is widgets in the notification center. I would love to see a Logos Bible! Widget, which would provide quick and easy access to your preferred Bible translation, without Logos being open. I would also like more mac-like typography... but well, you know. Stick out tongue

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Bradley Grainger (Logos)

It should go without saying, but...

If you install the Developer Preview, or the Beta that comes out this summer, Logos may stop working. We will be doing everything we can to make sure Logos is compatible with the official final release of OS X 10.10 this fall, but we do not support beta operating system versions.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598587#Comment_598587

Great reminder. [:)]

Stephen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598587#Comment_598587

It should go without saying, but...

If you install the Developer Preview, or the Beta that comes out this summer, Logos may stop working. We will be doing everything we can to make sure Logos is compatible with the official final release of OS X 10.10 this fall, but we do not support beta operating system versions.

I have 10.10 installed and Logos 5 seems to be working with no issues although I haven't done to much in it, just a quick check. iOS8 is a different issue. Logos apps apprear to crash when the splash screen loads.

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598626#Comment_598626

Before seeing this post, I posted in the beta group that it's working well so far. I know I'm living on the edge.

As for the widget, that's a great idea and I hope we see one too.

fgh

Apple announced their new desktop OS (OSX 10.10) called Yosemite.

My favourite comment (thanks, Gabe):

Very disappointed there was no new hardware announced. I've already waited a long time to get a new computer. I'm not going to stumble along months more. And I'm definitely not going to buy the old Mini they're currently selling. And I don't really want a laptop or an iMac. And although I'm tempted by the Pro, it really bugs me to reward them for not producing a decent cheap computer.

If I could buy the simplest Pro, I'd probably go for it. I have some money coming, I don't need to pay the VAT, and I'm so incredibly tired of trying to work on an inadequate computer, but 256 GB is far too little. Grrr, Apple, I don't like you at all today.[8o|]

(No PC invitations, please. I'm not that angry![:P])

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598728#Comment_598728

... And I don't really want a laptop or an iMac.

I know this is off topic. I understand the Apple VAT but the other part of that, it seems to me, is that there is a resale market for the Apple hardware. You could try "selling" your Mini through one of the on-line trade-in companies. Take the proceeds and make up the difference toward a new model. Just curious ... Why wouldn't you want a laptop or an iMac?

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598738#Comment_598738

I understand the Apple VAT but the other part of that, it seems to me, is...

The other part of that is that I have to pay VAT when I sell.

You could try "selling" your Mini through one of the on-line trade-in companies.

a) I'm not sure there are any in Sweden. b) I'd get a better price on the Swedish equivalent to eBay. ( c) I'm lousy at emptying computers while they still have value left.[:$])

Why wouldn't you want a laptop or an iMac?

Laptop:

More money for less computer.
Too small screen.
No numerical keyboard.
Takes up too much space when not used as a laptop.

iMac:

Fixed screen.

I'm considering a big screen that can be used both for the computer and as TV.

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598751#Comment_598751

Surely a mini refresh is on the way this summer? Either that, or its getting the axe. [8-)]

Intel is holding everyone (including Apple) back right now. Broadwell isn't ready for primetime, and Haswell refreshes can only satisfy for so long.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598728#Comment_598728

Very disappointed there was no new hardware announced. I've already waited a long time to get a new computer.

Yes, yes you have. [:P]

I'm sure new ones will be out before too long... probably before the end of the summer.

I'd love to have a Mac Pro. My first Mac was a Pro... or then called a Power Mac G5. We had Apple computers growing up, and then I went off to college and entered a decade long wilderness called windows.

The Pro might not be a bad choice for you, since it is the most upgradeable. [:)]

Rob

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598751#Comment_598751

Laptop:

More money for less computer.

Too small screen.

No numerical keyboard.

Takes up too much space when not used as a laptop.

iMac:

Fixed screen.

Here's my setup that I find works very well for me.

- MacBook Pro

- Apple USB keyboard with numeric keys

- Apple wireless mouse

- Dell UltraSharp 24" monitor

The monitor and keyboard serve as a workstation at my desk. When I need to, I just unplug and go.

The mouse? It goes wherever I go.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598753#Comment_598753

Surely a mini refresh is on the way this summer?

I'm sure new ones will be out before too long... probably before the end of the summer.

The opinion on the web after the event seemed to be that since it wasn't announced now, it isn't likely to arrive until they can ship it with Yosemite. Though if I buy something, I bet it will arrive within two weeks. Regardless of when I buy.

or its getting the axe.

I've wondered the same.

The Pro might not be a bad choice for you

It's funny how we react to money. The Pro feels so incredibly expensive. Then, some months ago, it dawned on me that it actually costs [slightly] less than my car did, is far cheaper to maintain, and would be used many hours a day, while the car is only used a couple of hours a week. Suddenly it seemed a lot more reasonable and defensible. But I would prefer to buy it because I've decided that it's the best choice for me, and not because it's the only choice Apple gives me.

At least they've finally fixed the supply. The shipping is down to 3-5 days.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598771#Comment_598771

Here's my setup that I find works very well for me.

- MacBook Pro

- Apple USB keyboard with numeric keys

- Apple wireless mouse

- Dell UltraSharp 24" monitor

The monitor and keyboard serve as a workstation at my desk. When I need to, I just unplug and go.

The mouse? It goes wherever I go.

Unfortunately a MacBook takes up at least twice as much space on the desk as a Mini does. Space I don't really have.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598784#Comment_598784

I don't think the mini is getting the axe. That is a perennial worry, but it continues to get an occasional update, albeit "under the radar."

As for hardware announcements: Apple really hasn't been doing that much at WWDC in recent years. They have had special events and unannounced releases. I <think> the update will come this year, but it might be near or after Yosemite...

The last three updates (2010, 2011, 2012) came in June, July and October.

Rob

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598787#Comment_598787

Have looked at these options:

http://store.apple.com/ca/mac/mac-accessories/stands-mounts-locks#!

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598788#Comment_598788

... I <think> the update will come this year, but it might be near or after Yosemite...

The last three updates (2010, 2011, 2012) came in June, July and October.

It's fun to speculate and I've been trying to think what they could do to the MacBook Pro and iMac at this point. No new Intel CPU's in production. Both platforms have the latest Haswell processors and updated Fusion Drives, better standard memory configurations, etc. I'm thinking the MacBook Air with Retina is coming. Minor updates to the iPad with the inclusion of the Touch ID home button. Larger screen iPhone.

I think those are the things that we will have by this coming October.

Ergatees

Apple announced their new desktop OS (OSX 10.10) called Yosemite. One new feature that I am excited to see is widgets in the notification center. I would love to see a Logos Bible! Widget, which would provide quick and easy access to your preferred Bible translation, without Logos being open. I would also like more mac-like typography... but well, you know.

Great idea! On my Windows computer I keep another program installed just for this reason. On my Mac, I don't have a second Bible program. So I would love to have such a feature for quick references.

Ergatees

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598788#Comment_598788

I <think> the update will come this year, but it might be near or after Yosemite...

Too late for me. I've waited far too long already.

I wish there was a Pro with a 1 TB Fusion Drive.

mab

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598980#Comment_598980

I've got a Mini (from Fall 2012) and with 16 GB RAM should be just fine. I love an excuse for buying a new computer, but I love adding to Logos more. [8-|]

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/598753#Comment_598753

Surely a mini refresh is on the way this summer?

They just lowered the prices on the current Minis. I think that pretty much rules out a new one before the fall.[:(] And it's already been longer than ever before:

Thomas Ball

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/604269#Comment_604269

They refreshed the 21" iMac this week and dropped the price. http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/604271#Comment_604271

This appears to be just an addition of a lower end model (lower CPU, graphics, and price). The other two 21" models are the same as there were after the previous refresh. Makes sense ... should attract more users who can't afford the higher priced models.

Charles

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/604271#Comment_604271

They refreshed the 21" iMac this week and dropped the price. http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac

I don't consider that a refresh. It appears it's directed more toward students. Comes with a lower end CPU and graphics, and like the other 21.5" models is not upgradeable after purchasing it.

In Christ,

Charles

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/604269#Comment_604269

They just lowered the prices on the current Minis. I think that pretty much rules out a new one before the fall. And it's already been longer than ever before:

Reading some of the Mac "rumor" sites, it appears that Apple is waiting for the new Intel processors to come out... they are past due.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/604344#Comment_604344

Finally I have a new computer on the way![:)] Or at least the order is on the way to the US. When the actual computer is on the way in the opposite direction remains to be seen. I'll be counting the days.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/604986#Comment_604986

What did you end up ordering?

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/604993#Comment_604993

The 'most basic' Pro, but upgraded to 512GB (hence the delivery time).

I negotiated a decent discount, plus I'll get the VAT refunded, so all in all it'll cost me about 75% of the price on Apple's website, but it's not like it's a cheap computer. But it should last me a while, and be a lot more pleasant while it does.

So in a fortnight or so I'll suddenly jump from one of the very worst computers on the forums to one of the very best. I'm sure Logos will be happy to be spared all my 10.6 bug reports and bumps.[:)] On the other hand I'll have space enough for a beta account, so my total number of bug reports may go up rather than down.[:(]

Hmm... I just realized yet another reason to be anonymous on the web. Telling this, and putting it in my signature later, under my own name, that's like putting up a 'come and steal this' sign.