Lexham Methods Series

Thanks for the reminder Keith. It would be great to see this go into production. Here is the link for quick access - https://www.logos.com/product/26934/lexham-methods-series

Operating on the David Paul school of bidding principle, I found that $50 had a slight uptick. Since we are at least two weeks out I bid $50 hoping to make that uptick more noticeable and promoting it as the collaboration price. The lower the price when the the line hits break-even, the better for all of us. It may actually be better for Logos since the lower price is likely to bring in more bidders more rapidly.

BTW: Let's encourage people to retain their initial bids, rather than lowering them, once the final date is set for the auction. Lowering the bid doesn't do anything except make the resource "look" cheaper. That's bad eyewash for those initially visiting the CP who may not be aware of the bidding history.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608802#Comment_608802

Bruce, you might want to edit that link so it doesn't give Logos the unwarranted idea that people who click on it are coming from the blog. Delete everything after the question mark, as that's all just a referral code.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608813#Comment_608813

Moved my bid down to $50 as well. $50 and $60 are almost even now and I think $50 looks and sounds a whole lot better than $60. We can always move it up if things necessary.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608833#Comment_608833

I moved mine down to $50 as well. Looks like if a couple more people at $60 drop down to $50, we'll make $50 the new going rate, albeit at a lower hump than what $60 was at when it was at its highest. But that will encourage more people to jump in.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608813#Comment_608813

Bruce, you might want to edit that link so it doesn't give Logos the unwarranted idea that people who click on it are coming from the blog. Delete everything after the question mark, as that's all just a referral code.

Thanks Rosie. I should have taken more time to do that in the first place.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608838#Comment_608838

I moved mine down to $50 as well.

I just moved mine too.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608844#Comment_608844

$60--->$50

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608878#Comment_608878

Looks like the $50 peak has flatten out. Must be because the majority of the new bids came in at $60. So what is your recommendation David Paul? Should we move back up to $60 to give people hope this set will see the light of day or should we stay at $50?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608937#Comment_608937

I posted a comment to the recent blog post for this series encouraging bidders to bid $50.

I think that the peaks are too far from the finish line to really have a significant impact on bidding at this point. I think this decision to bid $50 is a good idea, but I'm not convinced this CP has the same dynamic that the mEd course did. But if we all agree to bidding $50 and we keep a fire lit under this in the same way we did with the BW3 course, it could have the result we're looking for.

Matt Hamrick

I changed my bid from 60 to 50.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608969#Comment_608969

Hopefully today's blog about the series will push more people to place their bids.

http://blog.logos.com/2014/07/early-praise-for-the-lexham-methods-series

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608980#Comment_608980

$50 is not that far behind $60...if we keep this active and encourage the $50 bids, we could see it peak within a week, and once that happens, there should be more attention and new bids pushing it higher.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609078#Comment_609078

A day ago it was briefly at $50.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609107#Comment_609107

A day ago it was briefly at $50.

Didn't notice. This shows however that only a few more $50 bid will bring curve to the $50 level. Anyone else willing to shift their bid?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609108#Comment_609108

Hey, folks. Stop bidding $60 on this. We're attempting to get a new high point on the graph at $50. If you're one of the new bidders at $60 in the past few days, please consider lowering your bid to $50. I know it looks scary with that big red bar on there saying you will miss out on this product if it goes to production at the higher price.

But it won't if we make a concerted effort together, so don't worry about that. We're only at 60% anyway, so there's still lots of time to raise your bid later if this strategy doesn't work. But it has proven to work before (most recently on the Ben Witherington MobileEd course). So let's try it again. Bid $50 and the dot at 50 will go up higher than the dot at 60, thus drawing in more bidders. And the price will likely go even lower before it goes into production.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609176#Comment_609176

I personally find that little red message offensive, for a number of reasons. First of all, it is fairly often just not true, which means it is half-brother to a lie. When you say something is true when it remains to be seen and often turns out not to be the case, that is a problem. Second, it comes across as a scare tactic, one that has demonstrated its effectiveness with regularity. With two weeks left to go on the Witherington mEd course before it closed and the $60 mark already touching the line, there were panicked voices insisting that people should raise their bids to the safe "green bar". That kind of fear, in spite of zero practical relevance or need, leads to the Logos community paying hundreds of dollars a year more than it needs to.

I would like for Logos to change the message so that it reads, "Your bid may not succeed", or better yet...remove it all together. It is literally unnecessary and it inculcates a drastic misunderstanding of how CP works. That message is NOBODY'S friend.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609195#Comment_609195

I personally find that little red message offensive

That's pretty strong language. I don't find it offensive. It's shorthand for "if this were to go over the 100% mark as things stand now, your bid would not succeed." For products where there is a concerted effort on the forums to get people to bid the price down (which doesn't by any means happen on all or nearly half the CP products), then it's quite likely if they a person seeing that message stays put at their current bid, it will eventually succeed. However it would be doing such people a disservice to neglect to remind them that their bid might not succeed. So I think it would be better to change the red text to "Your bid might not succeed" ("may" would be bad grammar; it would mean "your bid doesn't have permission to succeed") than to remove it altogether.

Bill Coley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609197#Comment_609197

So I think it would be better to change the red text to "Your bid might not succeed" ("may" would be bad grammar; it would mean "your bid doesn't have permission to succeed") than to remove it altogether.

It's a common misconception that "may" only refers to permission; in fact, that's not the case. It certainly has the permission meaning, but it also expresses possibility.

In current usage, "may" and "might" are used interchangeably to refer to the possibility of something happening, though some contend that "might" communicates that an event is less likely than "may."

As for the language of the CP graph, how about a more positive spin: "Currently, (only) bids of $XX and higher will succeed."

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609206#Comment_609206

As for the language of the CP graph, how about a more positive spin: "Currently, (only) bids of $XX and higher will succeed."

I think I prefer this approach, but I am still in favor of removing the "warning" altogether. Anyone so [insert your favorite PC term here] that they can't figure out what is happening on the graph, especially with the red and green bars telling the tale, probably shouldn't be playing CP to begin with--and besides, we wouldn't want them hurting themselves.

Besides you know what the Bible says about gambling. [*-)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609206#Comment_609206

As for the language of the CP graph, how about a more positive spin: "Currently, (only) bids of $XX and higher will succeed."

I like that suggestion.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609206#Comment_609206

It appears the Lexham Methods Series is going into production regardless of what happens in Community Pricing: https://www.logos.com/product/43657/lexham-press-scholars-bundle

Still the price is much better than in this bundle. Come on people bid, the price will never be better. Even if you are not willing to bid $50, bid less if you think it is worth less. Low bids can't hurt you. The worse that can happen is it goes into production at a higher price.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610063#Comment_610063

LMS has been in the can for quite a while. They are just trying to cover costs. I am very hungry for this...one of the few things I get that I will actually stop and read on the spot.

Doug Mangum (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610068#Comment_610068

LMS has been in the can for quite a while. They are just trying to cover costs. I am very hungry for this...one of the few things I get that I will actually stop and read on the spot.

Great, now I'm feeling more pressure to make this series perfect. David's going to stop everything and read it on the spot once it's done. [:D]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610068#Comment_610068

There have been prior occasions where Logos has pre-emptively ended the CP and set an arbitrary price. In the past when they have done this, was there any warning? (I feel a little concerned about sitting on the $50 price when perhaps $60 will be needed.)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610098#Comment_610098

Great, now I'm feeling more pressure to make this series perfect. David's going to stop everything and read it on the spot once it's done.

Hi Doug,

So you are saying that it isn't complete, yet? Does that mean that the CP will remain open at least for a while?

Doug Mangum (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610101#Comment_610101

It's still in production. I don't know the planned time frame for Community Pricing, but it should be announced before it's moved. I imagine it will be on CP for a few months still, but I'll ask.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/609176#Comment_609176

Remember this?

Well, say "hello" to PROGRESS!!! [ From my bid on Lewis Carroll. ]

Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?? [I] [&]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610218#Comment_610218

Remember this?

Well, say "hello" to PROGRESS!!! [ From my bid on Lewis Carroll. ]

Yay. That's a welcome change. If history is any predictor, the fact that it's not a straight slope form $2 to $8 but there's a little bump at $6 means we'll probably see this come down to $6 eventually before it graduates from CP to prepub. And if anyone else dares bid $6 to make that little bump even larger, that would be great.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610219#Comment_610219

I wonder why the text below the chart when I look at it wraps unnecessarily to another line, when yours looks nice and neat.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610219#Comment_610219

Yay. That's a welcome change. If history is any predictor, the fact that it's not a straight slope form $2 to $8 but there's a little bump at $6 means we'll probably see this come down to $6 eventually before it graduates from CP to prepub. And if anyone else dares bid $6 to make that little bump even larger, that would be great.

Yes...that is good. [Y] But I think you may have overlooked what I was getting at--notice the little yellow spot in the lower right. [<:o)]

Of course, I think you were preferring "might" instead, which I would be okay with.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610221#Comment_610221

But I think you may have overlooked what I was getting at--notice the little yellow spot in the lower right.

No, I didn't. That's what I was referring to with my comment "That's a welcome change." I should have started a new paragraph for the rest. And yes, I would have preferred "might" for grammatical correctness, but if I can't even write and break paragraphs clearly enough to convey my meaning, then I shouldn't be worried about Logos's grammar! [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610224#Comment_610224

It's been a while since someone has done it, so I will do the honors...

Get your bids in people! BID $50!! This series is both useful and (by the time we get done with it) cheap...worth every penny!

Consider yourselves cajoled. [:)]

Btw...I'm surprised it isn't already showing a peak at $50--just one or two more bids should tip it. Get your bid in now and you could be the hero that drops the price!! [H] Let's show "them" that our $50 bids WILL succeed!! [Y]

In fact, if you have a $60 bid in already, dropping your bid to $50 would probably tip the scale and you would be the hero! [*]

Donnie Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/608980#Comment_608980

http://blog.logos.com/2014/07/early-praise-for-the-lexham-methods-series

That URL is giving a 404 Not Found now. I'd love to bid on this, but I need to figure out what it really is first.

Donnie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610283#Comment_610283

http://blog.logos.com/2014/07/early-praise-for-the-lexham-methods-series

That URL is giving a 404 Not Found now. I'd love to bid on this, but I need to figure out what it really is first.

Donnie

Try this Donnie: https://www.logos.com/product/26934/lexham-methods-series

The blog post must have been removed.

Doug Mangum (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610287#Comment_610287

the blog post is still there, too. not sure why there was an error. the link works for me. http://blog.logos.com/2014/07/early-praise-for-lexham-methods-series/

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610297#Comment_610297

the blog post is still there, too. not sure why there was an error. the link works for me. http://blog.logos.com/2014/07/early-praise-for-lexham-methods-series/

Bruce's version has an extra '-the' in the url.

(Isn't the ability to "edit" a post just evil? Now Keith's reply doesn't make sense.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610333#Comment_610333

the blog post is still there, too. not sure why there was an error. the link works for me. http://blog.logos.com/2014/07/early-praise-for-lexham-methods-series/

Keith's version has and extra '-the' in the url.

I didn't post that link, Bruce did!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610218#Comment_610218

Well, say "hello" to PROGRESS!!! [ From my bid on Lewis Carroll. ]

That is an much appreciated change indeed.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610333#Comment_610333

the blog post is still there, too. not sure why there was an error. the link works for me. http://blog.logos.com/2014/07/early-praise-for-lexham-methods-series/

Bruce's version has an extra '-the' in the url.

(Isn't the ability to "edit" a post just evil? Now Keith's reply doesn't make sense.

I'm not sure how that happened. I thought I just copied and pasted it.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610436#Comment_610436

It is. The question is if they remembered to change in the e-mails as well.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/610512#Comment_610512

Come on, folks. Let's get a few quick $50 bids on this series so we can get the new, lower peak and begin pushing this set into production!

BID!! [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/611102#Comment_611102

Come on, folks. Let's get a few quick $50 bids on this series so we can get the new, lower peak and begin pushing this set into production!

BID!!

I bid $50 last week. When I visit my Orders page it shows my $50 bid in GREEN! Other bids below the strike price show up in red, but this one is GREEN even though the current strike price is $60. Does anyone else see this?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/611820#Comment_611820

I bid $50 last week. When I visit my Orders page it shows my $50 bid in GREEN! Other bids below the strike price show up in red, but this one is GREEN even though the current strike price is $60. Does anyone else see this?

This is what I am seeing on the website

and this is what I am seeing on my orders -

So, yes, I'm seeing the same thing as you seem to be seeing.