BUG/ABSURD DATA .... Abrose of Milan .... Please let me make my own timelines

MJ. Smith
MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,882
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Okay, I was having trouble finding the entries in the time line that corresponded to:

So I decide to work backward from a date I do find on the timeline - the death of Ambrose of Milan. I do a search on "397 NEAR Ambrose" and choose the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary as a reasonable source that probably matches many resources. What I find:

  1. AYBD provides both a birth and a death date while the Logos Timeline proclaims that Ambrose died but was never born.... if you trace the link to the HCC:AATM it only gives the birth date
  2. According to the Logos Timeline, a church in Milan was named after St. Ambrose ~ 15 years after his birth and significantly before his death ... if you trace the link to the CD it says something like "by St. Ambrose in a church in Milan"

Yes, I realize that the timeline is a work in progress but

  1. It is missing the data that I was looking for ... which I verified by checking the flags in my resource didn't have meaningful tags
  2. Because it is partial, it is nonsensical so I can't use it in a presentation context
  3. There is no obvious report typo function (unless I am to report it on the originating resource rather than the timeline) when the entry is erroneous
  4. There is no way for me to create my own usable timelines as I could in L3

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

Comments

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,097

    MJ. Smith said:

    There is no obvious report typo function

    There isn't a link in the panel itself, but you can email data@logos.com for now (see http://community.logos.com/forums/p/59819/425846.aspx#425846).

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,097

    MJ. Smith said:

    There is no way for me to create my own usable timelines as I could in L3

    We're tracking this suggestion at UserVoice: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-5/suggestions/508583-user-generated-data-timelines 

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    MJ, a hollow flag (like those in your first screenshot) indicate that the resource has been marked with a date, but there is no matching event in the timeline. Clicking the flag will take you to that date in the timeline, but don't expect to find a matching event there. A solid flag indicates a matching event. Clicking that will take you to the event in the timeline.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    So I decide to work backward from a date I do find on the timeline - the death of Ambrose of Milan. I do a search on "397 NEAR Ambrose" and choose the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary as a reasonable source that probably matches many resources. What I find:

    1. AYBD provides both a birth and a death date while the Logos Timeline proclaims that Ambrose died but was never born.... if you trace the link to the HCC:AATM it only gives the birth date
    2. According to the Logos Timeline, a church in Milan was named after St. Ambrose ~ 15 years after his birth and significantly before his death ... if you trace the link to the CD it says something like "by St. Ambrose in a church in Milan"

    LOL !!  That reminds me of some Dutch names that I found rather humorous such as "Nietgeboren."  My understanding is that some of the names were manufactured in jest as a reaction to the imposition of the requirement of surnames by the French (?).

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,882

    Clicking the flag will take you to that date in the timeline, but don't expect to find a matching event there. A solid flag indicates a matching event. Clicking that will take you to the event in the timeline.

    I realize that but my point is that the process for prioritizing and linking flags to the timeline is flawed:

    • it does not provide sufficient context to allow the catching of obvious absurdity
    • it has not yet built up a reasonable and usable database ... something understandable for a year or so but ...

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."