BHS 4.2 read aloud

This is awesome. The robot voice will read all of the chapter numbers for you as it scrolls down the entire BHS, skipping all the text.

Is this for real or is Logos going to make a Hebrew reading robot at some juncture?

Rahlf's Septuagint is even more amazing. I'm beginning to think the SETI@home project has succeeded in contacting something and it's trying to talk to me.

wow.

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Tim Lord

There is a Hebrew pronunciation add-in under development for Logos 3.0 A good question is whether this will be developed for Logos 4.0 as well:
http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/3349

Rosie Perera

There is a Hebrew pronunciation add-in under development for Logos 3.0 A good question is whether this will be developed for Logos 4.0 as well:
http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/3349

I am willing to bet it will be developed for Logos 4.0. Logos 3.0 is not being distributed as a base platform for products anymore (though it will retain some limited support for the forseeable future). In any event, they won't be bringing out new products only for 3.0 anymore. That wouldn't make any sense.

Tim Lord

Hi, Rosie. I posted this question as a new thread for two reasons: (1) to get an official answer from Logos (i.e., if it will not be coming out on 3.0, then the pre-pub web page ought to be updated to state that in order to prevent any confusion and not discourage any Logos 4 user from placing orders), and (2) to generate some awareness about this product for new customers (a number of existing customers are still eagerly awaiting the release of this product, too).

Rosie Perera

Hi, Rosie. I posted this question as a new thread for two reasons: (1) to get an official answer from Logos (i.e., if it will not be coming out on 3.0, then the pre-pub web page ought to be updated to state that in order to prevent any confusion and not discourage any Logos 4 user from placing orders), and (2) to generate some awareness about this product for new customers (a number of existing customers are still eagerly awaiting the release of this product, too).

I'm eagerly awaiting it too and have put in an order. No worries about posting a new thread, I just wanted to link to my other answer rather than repeating it. There have been other resources that they haven't gotten around to updating the blurb about on the pre-pub list. One for example that I was concerned about just the other day says "CD-ROM only" and I only want to buy products if they are downloadable. I was puzzled because I didn't think they were producing any more new products that couldn't be downloaded, but MVP Joe Miller reassured me they probably just haven't updated the pre-pub pages in a long time. Good to point it out to them.

You won't necessarily get an "official" answer from Logos on the forum, though. They've been so overwhelmed with new customers and handling their calls and emails -- that's their first priority -- that I think they've been letting the forum slide a bit, relying on the MVPs and other long-time users to answer people's questions here. Occasionally I see a Logos employee pipe in with a reply, but not very often these days. I've been in contact with one of them over other website update issues, so I can bring it to his attention.

BTW, another thing that raises my confidence level that they will make sure this will work in 4.0 is that the corresponding Greek Pronunciation Addin, which is already available and was originally a 3.0 product, does work in 4.0 (you have to get the download version though if you want it to work in 4.0; since they've produced an updated version of it for 4.0 and the CD-ROM contains the 3.0 only product).

Bohuslav Wojnar

I am willing to bet it will be developed for Logos 4.0. Logos 3.0 is not being distributed as a base platform for products anymore (though it will retain some limited support for the forseeable future). In any event, they won't be bringing out new products only for 3.0 anymore. That wouldn't make any sense.

What is Logos3 product? I can't remember... [H] The new Beta is having features we all are going to forget Logos 3 very soon. Believe me.

P.S. I don't know about you but I am going to use my Hebrew pronunciation add-in in Logos 4. The same way I do with the Greek one [:)]

Alex Scott

This is awesome. The robot voice will read all of the chapter numbers for you as it scrolls down the entire BHS, skipping all the text.

Tried that too did you? I was curious to see what happened if the robot voice tried to pronounce the Hebrew, but I didn't expect the result. Another interesting thing is to hear the pronunciation of the Hebrew names in the OT while reading an English Bible.

Bob Pritchett

The Hebrew Pronunciation project is still underway, and will work (probably only work) in Logos 4. The "what is a lemma?" question is much more complicated over multiple Hebrew morphologies than Greek, and we've had to do a lot more data work than anticipated. The structure is done, though, and we're underway.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

This is awesome. The robot voice will read all of the chapter numbers for you as it scrolls down the entire BHS, skipping all the text.

Is this for real or is Logos going to make a Hebrew reading robot at some juncture?

Rahlf's Septuagint is even more amazing. I'm beginning to think the SETI@home project has succeeded in contacting something and it's trying to talk to me.

As you've noticed, the Microsoft Speech Synthesisers don't work very well with non-English text. Hebrew letters aren't recognised at all, Greek letters appear to go through a very crude transliteration before they're pronounced as though they were English, and languages other than English that use Latin characters are pronounced as though they were English (e.g., "hijos" in Spanish is read as "hi joes").

We had a summer intern look into doing an on-the-fly transliteration of Greek text into pseudo-English that the TTS engine could pronounce "good enough", but that project wasn't finished. We should probably just disable the feature in resources we know won't produce good results.

777

The Hebrew Pronunciation project is still underway, and will work (probably only work) in Logos 4. The "what is a lemma?" question is much more complicated over multiple Hebrew morphologies than Greek, and we've had to do a lot more data work than anticipated. The structure is done, though, and we're underway.

I'd order this as a pre-pub but it is listed as only working with Logos 3 on the Logos web site:

http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/3349

Perhaps it should be updated so that people using v4 will be inclined to order the pre-pub.

777

As you've noticed, the Microsoft Speech Synthesisers don't work very well with non-English text. Hebrew letters aren't recognised at all, Greek letters appear to go through a very crude transliteration before they're pronounced as though they were English, and languages other than English that use Latin characters are pronounced as though they were English (e.g., "hijos" in Spanish is read as "hi joes").

We had a summer intern look into doing an on-the-fly transliteration of Greek text into pseudo-English that the TTS engine could pronounce "good enough", but that project wasn't finished. We should probably just disable the feature in resources we know won't produce good results.

Yeah, I'd just disable it if I were in a position to be able to.

Rosie Perera

The Hebrew Pronunciation project is still underway, and will work (probably only work) in Logos 4. The "what is a lemma?" question is much more complicated over multiple Hebrew morphologies than Greek, and we've had to do a lot more data work than anticipated. The structure is done, though, and we're underway.

I'd order this as a pre-pub but it is listed as only working with Logos 3 on the Logos web site:

http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/3349

Perhaps it should be updated so that people using v4 will be inclined to order the pre-pub.

I've pointed that out already, and Dan Pritchett replied, "Rosie, we are working through thousands of pages right now making changes just like that. We've got a lot of hand editing to do for thousands of pages."

777

I've pointed that out already, and Dan Pritchett replied, "Rosie, we are working through thousands of pages right now making changes just like that. We've got a lot of hand editing to do for thousands of pages."

Thanks for letting me know. The Hebrew resources page looks like it hasn't been updated since Leave It To Beaver was still running new episodes.

Ok, so I stretched that one a wee bit. [:P]