Frustrations with ANALYSIS VIEW
What a GREAT tool we have in Logos - The ANALYSIS VIEW under our searches. It works in BIBLE searches and in MORPH searches equally well.
I am trying to set up two study templates. The FIRST One particularly for Nouns and other parts of speech / the SECOND primarily for - verbs and participles. The parsing needs of these two are different and my screen small. I worked to set up a neat "chart" that would bring out the most helpful information in each. Go Logos!!
Problem: the ANALYSIS VIEW does not seem to be able to "remember" any search setup once you switch to another. By this I mean: the column headings I set up, the order I put them in AND the ones I dragged into the space above the columns so I could order the search results more precisely.
I painstakingly set up my NOUN search:
On top I had: reference // lemma // case
Under that, I had: Reference / Result / Part of Speech / Case / Number / Gender / Lemma Sense / L-N
For the VERB search:
On top I had: reference // lemma
Under that the columns arranged: Reference / Result / Part of Speech / T / V / M / Person / Lemma
I'm sure it needs more work, but I was very pleased with the neat look and the practical results. The problem was ... when I finished arranging the SECOND "chart", I went back to the FIRST and it was not the same as I had left it. It was all changed by the work I did on the SECOND "chart". Very frustrating!!! Will this be addressed - Can this please be addressed OR if there is way to do what I am trying to do ... I would appreciate any help. Thanks
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Ron Corbett said:
The problem was ... when I finished arranging the SECOND "chart", I went back to the FIRST and it was not the same as I had left it. It was all changed by the work I did on the SECOND "chart
Sorry - but its not totally clear to me how you have this set up
Do you have two separate search windows - one for verbs and one for nouns - and are you saying that changing how the view is structured on one changes the other? Or have I misunderstood what you are saying?
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Thanks Graham: these are two separate searches conducted one after the other. These are set up in the same window. When I set up the results in the first search [hoping to be able to come back to it for future reference] I close it out and do another search. I then set up [re-organize] those results - headings and columns. (How I arrange them is listed in my first post.) I was hoping to be able to re-open THESE searches in the drop down box to the right of the command box in the search window. When I do, the last view is what I get. So Logos is not keeping all the changes I made to the search box with all its results. It simply runs the search and defaults to whatever the results window looked like last time I used {organized} it.
This could be SO helpful. I hope it can be worked out.If Logos can remember complex instructions in the command box of the SEARCH window, why can't it also remember how I set the thing up so I can see it like that next time I run that search?
Does that answer your question to me?
If I have more time tomorrow, I will try to upload screen shots. I haven't really needed this so much before, but now that I have been so blessed by Logos that I am encouraged to move forward in my education and am currently enrolled in my first Greek class ...
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Hi Ron
I think I understand but screenshots could be useful.
But is there any reason you can't have two separate search windows. wouldn't that easily give you what you want?
Graham
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Have you checked what History would take you back to?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Maybe I can explain it like this:
I create a search for Nouns. I run the search (on I Jn 1:5-2:6 in UBS4) and then arrange the columns in a way that makes sense for Nouns. So now the columns are: A-B-C-D-E
Then, I created a search on Verbs. I run the search (w/ same search parameters) and re-arrange the columns in a way that makes sense for the Verbs. Now the columns are: A-B-C-X-Y-Z
Great. I would like to go back and study these at a later time - they are both set up just the way I need them.
No matter what approach I take - History or the drop down box of previous searches within the search window - the columns are not "remembered" with the search parameters. If I had the Noun search open last with the columns arranged for Nouns [ABCDE], then the Verb search opens with those columns. If I rearrange everything to fit the Verb columns [ABCXYZ] and later go back to the Noun search to study that ... the search runs perfectly, but the columns are still ABCXYZ.
There is also the same issue with the column headings I drag to the top to order the searches in the search results window. For Verbs = Reference and Lemma. For nouns , etc. = Reference, Lemma, Case. It is a great set up. The problem is that as I am hoping to use it to study, I need to re-create it every time.
Hope this is clearer.
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I'm still missing something here[:)]
Ron Corbett said:I create a search for Nouns. I run the search (on I Jn 1:5-2:6 in UBS4) and then arrange the columns in a way that makes sense for Nouns. So now the columns are: A-B-C-D-E
Then, I created a search on Verbs. I run the search (w/ same search parameters) and re-arrange the columns in a way that makes sense for the Verbs. Now the columns are: A-B-C-X-Y-Z
It sounds as though you are doing both these searches within the same search panel.
If that is the case why not have two search panels open - one for nouns and one for verbs?
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