New International Version 1984 copyrighted edition resource

To All, I would like to purchase a copy of the New International Version of the Holy Bible 1984 copyrighted edition. I understand that Logos can help us transfer the license of the resource for a fee which covers their cost which I am glad to pay. Please respond in my faithlife account. Thanks

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Lynden O. Williams

Welcome to the Forums Mark. You may find the New International Versions here. Choose the one that best fits your needs. https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=new+international+version

JT (alabama24)

For clarification: The copyright holders no longer allow the NIV84 to be sold.

Mark Sausman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628356#Comment_628356

To alabama24, I was aware that Logos can no longer sell the 1984 copyrighted edition. I also believe that an individual can sell their private copy and that Logos can help their customers connect in this matter for a small fee. Nevertheless, thank you for your clarification as I am still doing my search and I appreciate any help.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628379#Comment_628379

I also believe that an individual can sell their private copy and that Logos can help their customers connect in this matter for a small fee.

For clarification again:

Another user CAN sell you their license.
If their license is tied to another collection or base package, they would need to sell you the entire collection or package.
Logos will charge you a minimal fee (I believe $20) to transfer the license from their account to yours.
Logos does not have a service to connect users.

Mark Sausman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628383#Comment_628383

To alabama24, Yes,I want to purchase a NIV84 license.Today they advised me to use their forum. Tonight they said that the forum was not for selling or giving away resources but that if I wanted to buy a license for a NIV84 that's OK.Thank you for the help.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628405#Comment_628405

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DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628427#Comment_628427

ST, that would 'not' be a change in policy. It sounds that way, but it's really not. Now, let's say I want to SELL my NIV84 license to this gentleman. And I made the offer FIRST. There's the problem.

Now, let's say I'd instead want to GIVE the gentleman my NIV84; I don't sell the Word of God to anyone. A gift, however, would be a big no-no (as the OP notes). The transaction would by necessity have to involve a transfer of MONEY first initiated by someone wanting to buy the Word of God.

Are we clear?

Now, others may well have noticed that this policy is fully compatible with the good Apostle Paul, when he criticized early purveyers of the gospel for SELLING the gospel. The key is to OFFER the purveyer first; no gifts.

Randy W. Sims

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628446#Comment_628446

Anyone who wants to sell, give, trade the niv84 or any package containing such can contact me, after the OP. simsrw73. on most networks. Gmail, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, Faithlife, etc.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628446#Comment_628446

Are we clear?

As mud. Once, a generous user took names for a drawing and gave away his library in the forums. He was reprimanded.

So, you are saying we must charge for the word of God?

............going to sleep on this. Maybe it will make sense in the morning.

Andy

Hi Mark,

You might also want to check out the public group, Logos Resales, on Facebook. I think this link should take you to the right page.

I haven't interacted with the group that much, but there does appear to be a fair amount of activity.

Blessings

[:D]

Andy

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Graham Owen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628480#Comment_628480

It seems odd that you can still buy the Anglicised NIV 1984 as long as you live outside of the US and Canada!

https://www.logos.com/product/29979/the-holy-bible-new-international-version-anglicised

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628492#Comment_628492

I can very much sympathize with the OP. I hope you are able to secure a copy. Personally I'm glad that I was able to get a copy of the NIV 1984 since I used it for many years to do all of my Bible memorization. I continues to be a frustration to many that it is no longer available.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628492#Comment_628492

ST, my grammaticalization seems to have gone haywire. I was indicating I'd give a Bible away before I'd sell it. But the Logos 'policy' emphasizes hanging trinkets off the Cross (but at a very good price of course).

I didn't know the NT84 Anglican is now non-North America. I was always under the impression that NIV84 was largely an American issue.

Mark Sausman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628573#Comment_628573

To Denise, Would you care to sell your NIV84 license? I've used the NIV since 1977 and seeing it on Logos in large print would be a big positive.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628594#Comment_628594

Mark, you might want to edit your email address to be less copyable by el robots. You have time (edit is in the little menu on the far right of your post).

More to your question, finding a loose NIV84 is going to be a challenge for you. Personally I've no use for the translation, but I like to consult it for the perspective. I checked over at CD for older Libronix CDs that might have included it. No such luck.

And it's most curious why you can't buy it. I suppose though, that if I translated the Bible, and refused to sell it, I'd be in my rights. Or limited distribution to my street. Now, from a spiritual standpoint (and presuming anyone would actually want it), it'd be .... curious. But not unusual. Big bucks for God. (That's supposed to be sarcastic.)

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628615#Comment_628615

And it's most curious why you can't buy it. I suppose though, that if I translated the Bible,

If I had made a translation I would want to get it distributed.

But if, later, I had found our some new stuff, got a better understanding, produced a better translation then I would want people to use the new one rather than the old one.

In fact I would do all I could to get the first out of circulation.

Just because people are used to an ok translation is not a reason for sticking with it when something better comes along.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628640#Comment_628640

Just because people are used to an ok translation is not a reason for sticking with it when something better comes along.

Something better? Like Today's NIV? [:P]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628640#Comment_628640

I smilingly agree with you, Mike. There's precious few manuscript scraps before the late 2nd century. And for good reason .... the new manuscripts were better! Of course die-hards like Jerome had their gripes.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628492#Comment_628492

It seems odd that you can still buy the Anglicised NIV 1984 as long as you live outside of the US and Canada!

I wonder if I will have any problem installing my Libronix CD of the Anglicised version of NIV1984.

Charles

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628615#Comment_628615

I checked over at CD for older Libronix CDs that might have included it. No such luck.

You have to go all the way back to the older Logos Library System (LLS) to find it included on CD. It was also included with the Nelson collection but that too is dated. I guess it's a matter of preference but I actually like the 2011 version better although I base most of my sermons on the NASB 95.

In Christ,

Charles

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628672#Comment_628672

I checked over at CD for older Libronix CDs that might have included it. No such luck.

You have to go all the way back to the older Logos Library System (LLS) to find it included on CD.

It was included in the Libronix SESB CD-ROM (what now is the GBS bundle in a very reduced manner) and also in the SDA Commentary set - don't know about many of the other sets.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628731#Comment_628731

And for those who are interested the Anglicised version of the 2011 translation is due to ship this Wednesday - https://www.logos.com/product/33548/the-holy-bible-new-international-version-anglicised - again not for those living in the US or Canada

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628734#Comment_628734

And for those who are interested the Anglicised version of the 2011 translation is due to ship this Wednesday - https://www.logos.com/product/33548/the-holy-bible-new-international-version-anglicised - again not for those living in the US or Canada

Which makes it all the more interesting that Philip Yancy is the only one quoted with a recommendation for this issue!

Is he well known as an anglophile?

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/629140#Comment_629140

Certain circles like him more than others. I'm aware of him but not super familier. A quick google search reveals that many are (rightly or wrongly) critical of him as being weak on homosexuality, quoting roman catholic mystics, an open theist and in favor of the emergent church movement. Not sure his denomination (suspect pentecostal?), but he seems to be charismatic, and considering the flak he catches from the reformed camp here in the US I now have other questions. Never the less the reformed blogger Tim Challies says: "Yancey asks many good and fair questions, his questions are far better than his answers. He is unafraid to ask difficult questions but is far more hesitant to answer them from Scripture or from within the well-established stream of Protestant theology" and criticizes him later for being intentionally vague with answers. This was all regarding a book Yancey wrote on prayer.

Only one thing in there is a deal breaker for me. I personally don't read Yancey.

JohnB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/628734#Comment_628734

And for those who are interested the Anglicised version of the 2011 translation is due to ship this Wednesday

I suspect the 1984 Anglo edition may well then vanish from sale.