find where a Greek word is translated as a certain English one

Bob Diebel

I wish to find how many times, and where εν is translated as "over".

What is the best way?

George Somsel

Bob Diebel said:

I wish to find how many times, and where εν is translated as "over".

What is the best way?

I can't offhand think of an instance where this is the case.  BDAG doesn't list "over" as meaning though it does list "on" as in "on the road" or "on the mountain."  You would probably need to use an interlinear to find where a particular Greek word is translated by a particular English word, and I don't do interlinears.

Todd Phillips

Bob Diebel said:

I wish to find how many times, and where εν is translated as "over".

What is the best way?

You can run a Bible Word Study guide on εν and examine the translation ring section to see all the ways that word is translated.  Clicking on a translated word will list the occurrences.

I looked at εν in ESV, KJV and NRSV, and it was never translated as "over" in the those versions.

NB.Mick

I think something along the lines of g:en WITHIN 0 WORDS over and of course you need to run it against a specific English translation (such as KJV, ESV, NIV, LEB) which is linked to an underlying Greek text. Within zero words means that the Greek 'en' is at the same position in the text database as is the English 'over'. Your results for such questions will inevitably vary according to the English translation, and if George is correct there could be no results at all.

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/640851#Comment_640851

You can find how a Greek word is translated into English by running a Bible Word Study, and picking your Bible. I have done one here against the ESV. As you can see, while in that Bible no translations are 'over', there is a reference to 'over' in the LXX Swete - maybe that's what you recalled or noticed. When you get the results you can look through them and see if you find a meaning close to what you are looking for.

Bob Diebel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/640865#Comment_640865

I see "over" as a translation, but cannot find it on the wheel of 2768 occurrences of the Greek word.

Other software tells me this is the only occurrence, but I was hoping to see in in Logos as well.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/640872#Comment_640872

Look at the Bible Search near the bottom under languages for the format of the search argument for Greek word translated as English word ... at least in Verbum.

Also by hovering over the section of slices too small to be tagged you should be able to find over.

Or by clicking on the word in the center to expand all occurrences, you should get a list that shows all the overs.

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/640872#Comment_640872

Bob Diebel said:

I see "over" as a translation, but cannot find it on the wheel of 2768 occurrences of the Greek word.

That's because the interlinear is mapping the Greek phrase "ἐν ᾧ" to the English phrase "over the which".  It's not a word to word translation, according to the interlinear, so it doesn't show up when you use the translation ring.

However if you search for "εν WITHIN 0 WORDS over" in the Bible search, that verse does show up. (Similar to what Mick suggested, but using "g:en" didn't work for me directly.  It has to be converted to "εν" for the search to work--so I had to type in "g:en" and select the Green word from the suggestions).