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A few suggestions that would make Proclaim MUCH more useful

Jeff Holcomb

I wanted to distill a few suggestions down into one place of items that I think would make Proclaim a much more useful program in my application

First, better handling of audio when added to slides or groups of slides. We generally will play a predefined list of songs during pre-service, and would like to be able to load those against the pre-service section and have them all play in order during that section. Only being able to add one song to the section or slide makes the audio feathres of Proclaim all but useless for my applications. We end up using itunes to play music and proclaim to show slides and toggling back and forth. Adding a group of XX songs to the pre-service would solve that
Along with the above suggestion, when audio is placed on a slide, the audio has a hard stop when you change slides. This is extremely jarring for the audience and should almost never happen in any live sound situation. There needs to be a transition for a fade out of the music that is playing when the slide is changed
More types available for "signals" - I would love to be able to display a text only version of my key points to the audience while I am preaching and enable them to better follow along. Full backgrounds and videos would be nice but are likely streaming / data prohibitive, but the text only of a content slide should not be too difficult to send to mobile devices following along.
Better handling of seeing notes in faithlife while still being able to take notes. There should be a way to see the notes and still take useful notes at the same or similar time. Right now it is very difficult to do.
Change level notification of presentation changes - If there are multiple people working on a presentation, it is difficult to know what was added, deleted or changed bevcause there is no record of what has been done, a basic change log would be very helpful. More helpful still would be a change log along with an in-app chat window so that you could work with others real-time
Increase the maximum file size for upload...while I realize that the server space is a concern, having a 200 or 250mb limit on a video is very restrictive and makes many videos something that cannot be synced over the cloud

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Scott Alexander

Hello Jeff,

Thanks for the great feedback! I especially like the multiple audio track suggestion.

Along with the above suggestion, when audio is placed on a slide, the audio has a hard stop when you change slides. This is extremely jarring for the audience and should almost never happen in any live sound situation. There needs to be a transition for a fade out of the music that is playing when the slide is changed

This should not be the case, the audio should always fade. What platform are you using? I'll have our tester take a closer look to see if he can reproduce the issue.

I would love to be able to display a text only version of my key points to the audience while I am preaching and enable them to better follow along.

A potential workaround is a web address signal pointing at a public DropBox of Google Drive document.

Change level notification of presentation changes - If there are multiple people working on a presentation, it is difficult to know what was added, deleted or changed bevcause there is no record of what has been done, a basic change log would be very helpful.

We have spec'd some changes to increase the visibility of other collaborators. Not sure when we'll get to it.

More helpful still would be a change log along with an in-app chat window so that you could work with others real-time

Have you tried managing a conversation using the Messages feature in the Faithlife panel on the right side of the main application window?

Jeff Holcomb

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/652537#Comment_652537

Scott - Thanks for the quick response! Regarding the audio hard stop, we are working on a windows 8 machine primarily, but have experienced the same issue on a windows 7 machine. Both machines have suitable tech specs that we should not be experiencing any issues in that department.

If needed, I can build a presentation, test it to make sure it is experiencing the issue, and then post the presentation name so you can see if you can duplicate it.

Spencer McKimson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/652546#Comment_652546

If needed, I can build a presentation, test it to make sure it is experiencing the issue, and then post the presentation name so you can see if you can duplicate it.

This would be great. I just tried reproducing the issue myself and was not able to. I did the following:

Create a service item
Link a song to that service item
Create another service item
Link a 'Stop Audio' cue to the second service item

At this point, if I go on air and switch from the first service item to the second service item, the audio fades out. Am I missing any steps that you are following?

Also another note, the audio will NOT fade out if you are switching from one audio item to another. This means the following cases will not have audio fade transitions:

Switching from a service item w/ background audio to a service item w/ different background audio
Switching from a service item w/ background audio to a video w/ audio

Jeff Holcomb

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/652623#Comment_652623

OK....NOW we might be getting somewhere. So I was able to duplicate what you are describing where there is a music slide and the slide to either side of it has a stop audio cue, and it did work as described. It also looks like the ability to have more than one song has been added sometime in the past when I wasn't looking.

My question would be this....why does the audio not still fade down if there is audio on the next slide in the presentation. As it stands that means that I cannot have two audio elements side by side wihout having to put in a slide in the middle just to have a stop cue. It would seem that if I have slide A and B that both have audio, that slide A fades out as a transition and then slide B's audio would start. Am I missing how that should work?

I appreciate everyone jumping in and listening / advising on these issues

Spencer McKimson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/653437#Comment_653437

why does the audio not still fade down if there is audio on the next slide in the presentation.

This was by design; If it will change in the future, we will let you know.

I cannot have two audio elements side by side wihout having to put in a slide in the middle just to have a stop cue.

This would be a good workaround.

Shannon

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/653459#Comment_653459

Maybe I missed something in the beginning. We add a LIST of songs to the pre-service section every Sunday. They play in order and fade when the time hits and we switch to the service itself. We do this by adding it to the pre-service loop itself and not the individual slides. We set the list to play to the end of the section. Works perfect every week.

Christ's Christian Church

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/653459#Comment_653459

It's been a few years, but I was going to ask for clarification: Why would one design the software to have a hard transition between the two audio elements when that would be upsetting to the audience/congregation? Right now, as of April 2016, I still cannot have an audio element next to another element with audio because of a harsh transition. During worship service we are using "song" slides with their respective audio (in lue of a band) to do our worship songs and I literally have to wait for a total resolve from the first song before proceeding into the next song (or I have to stand at the board and fade out the first song -> transition into the next song [eliminating the hard transition] -> then fade back up on the board). It's literally the most frustrating part of a fairly amazing piece of software.

Would love to hear a rational? Is it too hard to fade or have a fade option for audio? I'd love to adjust audio level independently on each element, but I understand that that would be super difficult - but a fade shouldn't be.

Beaver Creek Baptist Church

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/816490#Comment_816490

I am wondering if there has been any progress on #5 of the original post. I am not so interested in a chat window, but knowing who changed a presentation and when would be very helpful. I don't think going full-bore and reporting every little change would be necessary.

Scott Alexander

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/816510#Comment_816510

I am wondering if there has been any progress on #5 of the original post. I am not so interested in a chat window, but knowing who changed a presentation and when would be very helpful. I don't think going full-bore and reporting every little change would be necessary.

It's definitely on our list for future features/improvements!