I may have missed it, but is there going to be a lesson builder function in Logos 4? I see the "Handouts," but as others have noted, it is very limited.
Just wondering...
I would like to see this function back (as well as the resources tied to it in L3).
but is there going to be a lesson builder function in Logos 4?
There has been no mention of it, but several people have (in)directly expressed an interest in it.
I would also like to see an updated "Lesson Builder" supported by Logos. Thanks Logos for listening to us.
I too would like to see the product upgraded for Logos 4. One of the things I noticed is that the current version will not work with some current operating systems.
Abraham
Lesson Builder has my vote as well.
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Let's keep this subject in front of everyone.
Lesson Builder was a great tool for creating your own Bible Study lessons. Read more about it on Morris Proctor's website under Products. Even though it is not current in it's support of operating systems, etc., if enough people who use Logos suggest its return; maybe this will happen.
I was hoping,, that handouts could be modified to do this, but I dont think thats likely
I got started with Logos at the end of 3 and then made the transition to 4. I have looked through my L3 for Lesson Builder as I would like to try this out. I cannot seem to find any reference to it. Can someone point me in the right direction?
Never mind. I finally figured it out.
I'm always interested to hear what your favorite thing about Lesson Builder is. Just the ability to find lessons? To make new ones from scratch in a structured editor? To mix and match pieces from different lessons?
it was easy to add a question, put in the answer, then print out a teacher version and a separate student version without modifying the document. That's huge.
I liked it to build my own lessons through mix and match pieces of my own creation. The lessons are very "fill-in the blank" in the sense of using graphic organizers - very open in the sense of having no 'proper' answer other than having read the test carefully and thoughtfully. And yes, most of my graphic organizers are based on tables. http://community.logos.com/forums/t/704.aspx gives samples of graphic organizers. Notes often include "mini make-it-yourself charts". Lessons are often methodological, liturgical or doctrinal. Questions come in 3 varieties - plain meaning, reflection and doctrine - or in the form of a graphic organizer, of course. You will note that the lessons are based on lectionary readings; the questions are held in notes that should link to (a) one or more scripture texts and (b) one or more liturgical dates-lectionaries. I was collecting sample answers - but my intention was greater than my actual entry of the material - partially because it was used/shared only with individuals I knew.
SAMPLE NOTES
SAMPLE PLAIN MEANING QUESTIONS
SAMPLE REFLECTION QUESTIONS
SAMPLE DOCTRINAL QUESTIONS
Mind you, this very long answer not only shows you why I'd like a lesson builder in Logos, it also illustrates why I want:
I apologize that my other favorite topic - equal support for a variety of canons - just doesn't fit in. Besides you are making great progress in that arena.
I wrote a series of lessons in Lesson Builder over the last year. I've used many other techniques and found lesson builder to be quite good and would be excellent with just a few more improvements. I liked the program despite the facts that
Here are some reasons I liked it:
Things I would like to see added:
WIthout these additions, Lesson Builder is outdated and too restrictive for modern audiences.
And a "way-out-there" idea: allow the lessons to also be output to html so they could be embedded in a web page and interactively used through a web browser.
After doing lessons in many ways for many years, I have to say that I'd really like to see Lesson Builder available with some of these enhancements.
PS I would pay for this feature if it had the enhancements I've suggested.
Here are some reasons I liked it: It allowed teacher and student editions of lessons to be printed. This alone is a great feature, one that is complicated to duplicate in Word or any other text editor. It allowed teacher/facilitator notes. It allowed structured construction of lessons with just enough formatting to make them look good. It allowed me to change the entire look of a lesson by changing templates so I could have a template for drafts and another for finished versions. Plus if I wanted I could have templates that would make the lessons look different for different kinds of audiences. There was enough flexibility to have a variety of types of sections, question/answer, informational etc. It had a nice structured index to a series of lessons. You could search for and grab sections from other lessons to be reused. The Bible references attached to lessons added to this ability. Things I would like to see added: A more advanced ability to add, place and format pictures/graphics The ability to search/move/tie things with Logos resources, notes and clippings.
Ditto - I agree with all you say Jim
The ability to utilize Lesson Builder in tandem with Logos 4 would make it a very powerful resource. The increased flexibility suggested by Jim would make it more practical. The removal of the restriction to 32 bit operating systems would make it possible to appeal to a wider audience.
Here are some reasons I liked it: It allowed teacher and student editions of lessons to be printed. This alone is a great feature, one that is complicated to duplicate in Word or any other text editor. It allowed teacher/facilitator notes. It allowed structured construction of lessons with just enough formatting to make them look good. It allowed me to change the entire look of a lesson by changing templates so I could have a template for drafts and another for finished versions. Plus if I wanted I could have templates that would make the lessons look different for different kinds of audiences. There was enough flexibility to have a variety of types of sections, question/answer, informational etc. It had a nice structured index to a series of lessons. You could search for and grab sections from other lessons to be reused. The Bible references attached to lessons added to this ability. Things I would like to see added: A more advanced ability to add, place and format pictures/graphics The ability to search/move/tie things with Logos resources, notes and clippings. Ditto - I agree with all you say Jim
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I ditto your ditto.
Jim--what version of Lesson Builder do you have? I have 4, and realize I can't even load it now. And the new version is much past "4". Just wondered if some of your desired things might be on the new version.
It allowed teacher and student editions of lessons to be printed. This alone is a great feature, one that is complicated to duplicate in Word or any other text editor.
Maybe you're already doing this, but I'm using the hidden text feature of Word to enable student & teacher editions of the same document to be printed. For stuff that's to be printed for teachers only (answers, e.g.), I make the text hidden.
The magic comes at print time... for student manuals, don't print hidden text (no action required). For teacher editions, do (one checkbox).
I liked Lesson Builder, too (beta tested it but didn't buy it). Given a limited budget & that I already had Word, I decided I couldn't afford it...
Bill,
The hidden text feature in Word sounds interesting and useful. How do you use it? I couldn't find any info on it in the Help file.
Michael
I agree!!!
