FEATURE REQUEST: Reading Pane for any book
It was pointed out to me that this might be the better forum for this, so I am repeating my post from here:http://community.logos.com/forums/p/9625/76411.aspx
The goal behind this request is to provide an easy way to READ our books online in a fashion that is easy for the eyes and also could improve scanning the text as we are looking for information.
I can think of two ways where this could be triggered:
1) Open a specific Window with these properties
2) Trigger this new mode for a current window by clicking a property
Basically, the functionality would be to remove anything that would distract us from READING and scanning the text. I want to improve the reading experience so that we could actually enjoy reading any of the hundreds of books available without many of the difficulties associated with reading on a computer screen.
I am aware that there is a full screen mode that is a good first step but it has the following problems:
1) Cannot set the Font just for this window to make it easy to read
2) Margins for the text cannot be set, so in my case with a wide screen lcd, it is a real problem to scan the text
I will update things as new things pop up, but to give people an idea of what it would actually look like. Check out this bookmarklet which does the same thing for text on the web:
http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/
cheers!
-- Odin
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Odin,
When I want to read a resource I open it in a floating window not in full screen reading view, then re-size the window to get the column width I want. Using the tools under the large icon to the upper left I can scale the text size to make it easier to read.
In addition, I can open my highlighting tools and add them to this
floating window so I can highlight the text as I work through it.
Would this not provide most of what you are looking for?
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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A much improved, multi-column reading view -- with generous margins -- is on our "to-do" list.
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Bob Pritchett said:
A much improved, multi-column reading view -- with generous margins -- is on our "to-do" list.
And highlighting tools accessible as well???
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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That's pretty much what I'd like to see, Mark. Thanks!
But just how exactly do you open the highlighting tools and add them to a floating window like you did, not as a tab? Sorry, I'm a bit slow. Is this a beta feature?
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Mark A. Smith said:
In addition, I can open my highlighting tools and add them to this
floating window so I can highlight the text as I work through it.That's brilliant. Thanks for the tip, Mark!
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Bob Pritchett said:
A much improved, multi-column reading view -- with generous margins -- is on our "to-do" list.
Excellent! That's good to know.
Tom Blanchard said:But just how exactly do you open the highlighting tools and add them to
a floating window like you did, not as a tab? Sorry, I'm a bit slow. Is
this a beta feature?You can either grab the tab in the main Logos window and drag it to the floating window or you can drag it from the Tools menu onto the floating window.
Prov. 15:23
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Glad someone brought this up.. I will have to try these tricks.. I find it hard to read even when "floated" Look forward to what Logos has for store in this in the future..
I am still not sold on giving up hard copy books yet..and would probably buy an important book I really want as a hardcopy as apposed to electronic for this reason alone..
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Something that would also be neat is the ability to add notes in the margins next to the text. Much like I am sure most of us do in our bibles..
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Tom Blanchard said:
But just how exactly do you open the highlighting tools and add them to a floating window like you did, not as a tab?
As Kevin said, first drag the highlighting tools into the window. They will usually just show up as a tab. Now grab the small tab for the highlighters and drag it until you see a blue rectangle form on the LHS of the pane. Release it and you will have two panes side by side. Re-size them to suit your interests.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Bryan Brodess said:
Something that would also be neat is the ability to add notes in the margins next to the text. Much like I am sure most of us do in our bibles..
Why not simply put it into a note? What is it about "writing in the margins"? Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book. I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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wow just did the highlight thing to a floated panel.. Awsome tool!! Thanks Logos!!
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George Somsel said:Bryan Brodess said:
Something that would also be neat is the ability to add notes in the margins next to the text. Much like I am sure most of us do in our bibles..
Why not simply put it into a note? What is it about "writing in the margins"? Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book. I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.
Because when I am reading a book nI probably do not have my note sitting with me.. It is much easier to write in the column what I want to remember next time I read that part of the book.
as for writing in the book. If I buy it. I probably plan on keeping it.. so why would it be vandalism..
My mother passed away 4 years ago. I still love to read her bible and the notes she made..
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Thanks, Mark. That's very cool, indeed.
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Kevin - a completely different question: How do you quote from two different posts in the same reply?
Peter
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PeterLi said:
Kevin - a completely different question: How do you quote from two different posts in the same reply?
Peter
I opened up an edit box in a new tab and then copied in the second quote and added the quote user syntax around it. Watch, I'll quote myself.
Kevin Becker said:I opened up an edit box in a new tab and then copied in the second
quote and added the quote user syntax around it. Watch, I'll quote
myself.Prov. 15:23
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George Somsel said:
stamp my name in a book
Wow. Advanced technology for a Neanderthal. Then, the books are rocks and George doesn't yet have tools to write with so he is just jealous. Margin, what's a margin?? [;)]
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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If you attach a note to a passage it puts an icon in that location. You can save the book AND ITS NOTES in a workspace thus having the note available at all times when you are reading the book.Bryan Brodess said:George Somsel said:Why not simply put it into a note? What is it about "writing in the margins"? Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book. I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.
Because when I am reading a book nI probably do not have my note sitting with me.. It is much easier to write in the column what I want to remember next time I read that part of the book.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
If you attach a note to a passage it puts an icon in that location. You can save the book AND ITS NOTES in a workspace thus having the note available at all times when you are reading the book.Bryan Brodess said:George Somsel said:Why not simply put it into a note? What is it about "writing in the margins"? Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book. I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.
Because when I am reading a book nI probably do not have my note sitting with me.. It is much easier to write in the column what I want to remember next time I read that part of the book.
Ah well see, Then this would certainly take care of my question
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PeterLi said:
Kevin - a completely different question: How do you quote from two different posts in the same reply?
Peter
You simply copy a post or a portion thereof and insert it into a post where you are already quoting another post then bracket it with the
to properly set it off -- thusly:NAME said:and
George Somsel said:Why not simply put it into a note? What is it about "writing in the margins"? Personally, I refuse to do any more than stamp my name in a book. I think anyone writing in a book should be brought up on charges of vandalism.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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"... the minimum return below which an enterprise becomes unprofitable"Mark A. Smith said:Margin, what's a margin??
Collins English dictionary. 2006. Previous ed.: 2005.; Formerly CIP. (8th ed., Complete & unabridged ed.). Glasgow: HarperCollins.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
"... the minimum return below which an enterprise becomes unprofitable"
So it is.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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George Somsel said:
If you attach a note to a passage it puts an icon in that location. You can save the book AND ITS NOTES in a workspace thus having the note available at all times when you are reading the book.
Ok. I did a test to see how it is done. Now I have a note where I do not want it.. how do I remove it??
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Bryan Brodess said:
how do I remove it??
In your note file if you hover your mouse on the line where the note heading resides (has a (usually) yellow square next to it) you will see a small X on the RHS of the pane on that line. Click on it. Gone!
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark A. Smith said:Bryan Brodess said:
how do I remove it??
In your note file if you hover your mouse on the line where the note heading resides (has a (usually) yellow square next to it) you will see a small X on the RHS of the pane on that line. Click on it. Gone!
Thanks that did the trick..
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Kevin Becker said:PeterLi said:
Kevin - a completely different question: How do you quote from two different posts in the same reply?
Peter
I opened up an edit box in a new tab and then copied in the second quote and added the quote user syntax around it. Watch, I'll quote myself.
Kevin Becker said:I opened up an edit box in a new tab and then copied in the second
quote and added the quote user syntax around it. Watch, I'll quote
myself.Here I was hoping you had stumbled onto some new and undiscovered feature, but that is the only way I have found to do this.
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Hi! I am still learning and navigating the various exciting functions and features in Logos 4. It was really nice to be able to access the reading mode, and I really like the highlighting tool. I also appreciate the show page numbers feature, which show up as tags in the right place. I was just pondering if anyone in the design team has thought of coming up with a reading mode, which displays the pages as in the actual books themselves, i.e. opens up just like a normal book but on screen. The font size function can still be accessible. With the page tag already in place, is there any possibility that this can happen? And the mouse scroll can flip the pages back an forth. It would really be awesome. I am just wondering how realistic this is or would it present a problem in terms of the programming?
Still, I would like to put this forward as a suggestion for a future upgrade all the same.
God bless,
Gary Ma
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Gary Ma said:Still, I would like to put this forward as a suggestion for a future upgrade all the same.
This sounds like having a Kindle or e-books reader format for Logos. Not a bad idea. You might want to post the gist of this idea in the Suggestions forum where it may get seen by more eyes, including those of the Logos team.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark,
I am glad someone else also think this is a good idea. Okay, I will put this in the suggestion forum... see if I can find where that is.
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