Is this PC (hexa core, S-ATA III) worth the cost in the long run?
Configuration:
CPU 2.8 GHz: http://processors.findthebest.co.uk/l/623/AMD-1055T http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X6+1055T&id=390
HDD (I don't know whether it's S-ATA II or III) - the computer must have S-ATA III though as a similar computer (with about the same CPU) has, but I have a spare unused SSD S-ATA III (bought used) and may copy everything over from the HDD to the SSD. I don't need a lot of space for personal files or media.
Power supply: Antec 620 W.
8 GB RAM DDR 3
Mainboard: Asus m4a88t-I DELUXE. I would suppose it supports more RAM but I haven't checked.
OS: Win 7 Ultimate. I have a Win 8.1 64-bit license unused OEM as well (bought used cheap) but it might be unnecessary to format the disk and install that Win 8.1 as Win 7 only supports Logos 3/Libronix which I also use. How long do You think Microsoft will continue to update Win 7?
Windows Experience Index 5.8 with the HDD and Win 7. Graphics is the weakest part.
The option would to wait 3-4 weeks and let a guy build a computer like the above exact same CPU, 12 GB RAM, with professional cable installation, good fans, high quality mainboard and OK power supply for just slightly less.
The first computer is $391. The latter one is $419. Would it be worth the expense and how many years do You think these would last?
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I think this would be more appropriate in a tech forum.
If you are concerned as to whether or not it would run Logos, it would handle it fine. [Y]
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Yeah, that is one of the concerns. So You don't think the CPU is too old to run Logos fine for many years to come? On a tech-forum could they do more than to speculate freely as to how long Microsoft will support Win 7?:
Anthony said:If you are concerned as to whether or not it would run Logos, it would handle it fine.
I now noticed a couple of typos in what I wrote in the OP. To correct it, I meant: "The option would be to wait 3-4 weeks and let a guy build a computer like the above exact same CPU, 12 GB RAM, with professional cable installation, good fans, high quality mainboard and OK power supply for just slightly more. He says he's using quality components.":Unix said:The option would to wait 3-4 weeks and let a guy build a computer like the above exact same CPU, 12 GB RAM, with professional cable installation, good fans, high quality mainboard and OK power supply for just slightly less.
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Unix said:
Configuration:
CPU 2.8 GHz: http://processors.findthebest.co.uk/l/623/AMD-1055T http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X6+1055T&id=390
HDD (I don't know whether it's S-ATA II or III) - the computer must have S-ATA III though as a similar computer (with about the same CPU) has, but I have a spare unused SSD S-ATA III (bought used) and may copy everything over from the HDD to the SSD. I don't need a lot of space for personal files or media.
Power supply: Antec 620 W.
8 GB RAM DDR 3I'm not a tech type guy, but it seems to me that this is a bit on the slow side. Mine is 4 yrs old and runs at 3.4 gh. I wouldn't install Windows 8.1 if I were you. I have 8.1 on my laptop and hate it. I much prefer my desktop machine with Windows 7 64 bit.
george
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You have about the same CPU? Good to know. GHz doesn't make a difference, but when looking at the different AMD Phenom II X6 CPU:s there are several models and the ones with higher GHz are noticeably faster. Thanks for the opinion, George!:
George Somsel said:I'm not a tech type guy, but it seems to me that this is a bit on the slow side. Mine is 4 yrs old and runs at 3.4 Ghz.
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OK maybe a rather old hexa core is overkill and the first computer got sold. (Just the equivalent one left.)
To find a computer that could be bought now, I now found a completely new ad for:
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1. A 64 bit machine will run 32 bit software.
2. An i7 would be better, but i5 isn't bad.
3. 8 G should be sufficient.
4. I could well be wrong, but it seems a bit expensive for a used machine.george
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2) i7 is better, but the benchmark results for this particular i5 are certainly decent and it has higher GHz than my i7 laptop.
3) 8 GB isn't really sufficient for me, I constantly run out of RAM.
4) It includes a very good AMD graphics card and MS Office [deleted]:George Somsel said:2. An i7 would be better, but i5 isn't bad.
3. 8 G should be sufficient.
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He doesn't accept my current bid for the computer I mentioned. It has Office, I forgot to mention that. You are right George, considering I can managed without MS Office it's not a good deal at all and he is pressuring for still higher bids and refuses to go lower than the other bid just because I don't need a graphics card.
I found another ad which is up just now:
Intel i5-3570 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3570+%40+3.40GHz&id=827 http://processors.findthebest.co.uk/l/834/Intel-i5-3570
Even a little newer CPU! [:D] Better benchmarks as well. Seems to have 6 MB L2 cache.
RAM: 8 GB DDR3. I have no idea if it can be upgraded.
Main board: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H m-ATX LGA1155 Socket
Graphics: bad 1 GB
SSD 60 GB. Unspecified whether it has an operative system.
I immediately bid $217. Seller accepting bids if fast and smooth sales. EDIT: haven't got a reply yet, perhaps because it's late in the evening. I now said I bid $13½ above any current bids and that I can come and buy it immediately.
I don't know about the shape of the computer. It's a desktop and seller says it's built to be silent.
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Despite that I was VERY fast on bidding on the latest computer (it was the latest ad when I bid) I seem to be loosing out because of another bidder. So I now offered to bid $95 above any bid the other bidder has. The seller is meeting the buyer tomorrow forenoon if he doesn't accept my bid and sell to me instead. EDIT: I'm bidding $392 for it right now - I don't know how much the other buyer is bidding but I now offered to bid $108 above his/her bid. EDIT2: I'm currently bidding $433 still not knowing how much the other buyer bid. EDIT3: I'm bidding $460 - and the situation is still the exact same I don't know if I get it.
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I think I'll to forget about all the above computers they are frustrating and I shouldn't spend the money. A better option might still be this two days old ad:
Intel core i7 870 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7+870+%40+2.93GHz&id=832 http://processors.findthebest.co.uk/l/79/Intel-i7-870The CPU is much older but has excellent benchmark results and fair L2 cache: 8 MB.
mainboard: Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3, socket-1156
RAM: 8 GB DDR3
Disk: Intel SSD 330
I emailed the seller and said I come and buy it at once. Price: $352 as in ad, haven't heard back from the seller yet but it's very late in the evening now.
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OK, so I finally found a lower price on a similar computer as the above except this one is fairly new (bought Christmas 2013). It's such a good deal that even without looking up anything at all about the CPU (not even how many cores it has) I called and said I take it. This one I will be no matter what and am very unlikely to have to raise my "bid" and the seller told me the price and accepted. There were no specifications whatsoever in the ad - just the brand - which is probably why the price had not gone up much:
Intel i7-3770 3.4 GHz, 3:rd generation Q1 '12 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770+%40+3.40GHz&id=896 http://processors.findthebest.co.uk/l/810/Intel-i7-3770
quad core, 8 thread, power consumption 77 W which is less than most desktop CPU:s, 8 MB L2 cache! [:D] Best CPU I've ever seen according to benchmarks!
mainboard supports 16 GB RAM (CPU would have supported 32 GB). Overall Rank: position 92 at this very moment on cpubenchmark.net
RAM: 8 GB DDR3
graphics: AMD Radeon HD 8470, 2 GB. It's important that it's 2 GB because it's so silly to run out of graphics memory all the time in late 2014!
chassis type: slim
operative system: Windows 8 (may have been upgraded to 8.1).
The computer has not been used much.This will be a real blessing and time-saver. I got lucky. Can't ever imagine a better deal and I don't think the prices are going down anytime in the near future so even though I might manage without buying a computer at all there's no point whatsoever in waiting. Hooray! This time I seemed to have done God's will.
The worst part about the computer is that it comes with no USB 3.0 which may indicate it might be low budget and that the only thing I'm paying for is the CPU, or what do You think. Just eight USB 2.0.
Do You think the software will fly on this? What do You think of the price $216? Are computers any cheaper than this in the U.S. or even as cheap?
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I hope you enjoy it.
george
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