Logos 7 - What should it offer?
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mike said:
Built-in OCR PDF converter for PBB.
I like the direction of it but my experience on trying to run OCR PDF for biblical studies has generally run into a mess with original languages and footnotes...
Tes said:the ability to show up verses from Notes to power Look up.
I would expand that to power look up able to work with ANY window in Logos (not least the Ancient literature guide!).
Veli Voipio said:Continue tagging the existing resources before L7
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Everett Headley said:How about fixing journals that have languished for 2 years?
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Also, removing some of the limitations for importing material into our Logos library (thus keeping it from becoming the central library we would love it to be and I think you too because we would be even more tied to it). For instance, being able to put in any text to flashcards, or clippings. Ability to import tables/small pictures (put a size limit if need be) into note files...
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James Hudson said:
I think I probably don't understand User Voice because I really thought it would help drive development. Sorry for my misunderstanding.
James
PS I do think you do a pretty good job of marking those things as started as 'Started' and that was not at all what i was suggesting. I was actually saying that I think you should aim to implement the (say) top 10 suggestions on User Voice as they indicate customers priorites.
I understand you now.
UserVoice definitely does help drive development (the Notes and Reading Plan improvements probably wouldn't have happened without it), but we're not going to publicly commit to starting something just because it got into the top 10 (this is what I (snarkily) meant by "UserVoice-driven development").
James Hudson said:then surely you would want to implement what your customers prioritised on User Voice
I guess I disagree with this assumption; there are other factors (time and cost being two major ones) that come into play.
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I guess I disagree with this assumption; there are other factors (time and cost being two major ones) that come into play.
OK Thanks for clarifying that.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one; time and cost should not necessarily be barriers to innovation (or else nothing would improve). All development takes time and money, why spend it initially on what people haven't asked for, when they are clamouring for something else?
(Please don't feel the need to reply - it's a difference of business opinion, and I really don't want to waste your time and distract you from your work. I know you, like Bob, take time to listen and understand us and that is appreciated and one for which I give thanks. Let's leave this thread for its true purpose to gather ideas for Logos 7!)
Thanks again,
James
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Fr Devin Roza said:
Library Columns
I would like to see the original date of publication of every work, and be able to easily filter, create collections by it, etc. Useful for creating collections of Church Fathers, Medieval Writings, Commentaries from 1900-1950, Commentaries from 1950-Present Day, etc. I am particularly interested in the date the original work was originally published, but it would be nice to also see the date that the particular edition was also published (current publishing date indicates the date the reprint was published).
Fr Devin offers many fine suggestions, so let me piggy back on this idea as one I've often hoped for. And wouldn't it be lovely to have this function as a sort option for the Ancient Literature section?
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Maybe with all the suggestions so far these will have to wait until Logos 8, but I'd love to see something like a Google Translate for use with German and perhaps French theological works.
And see if you can't light a fire under getting Strack Billerbeck finished and corral the translators to work on the translate function. [8-|]
The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter
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Fr Devin Roza said:
Here are some ideas.
Wow, Fr Devin! You've really thought about this a lot and have some great ideas. If you weren't a man of the cloth I'd ask if you had considered a career in program management (feature design) at a company such as Faithlife?
Fr Devin Roza said:Cited By Tool
This is already a mini-universal Passage Guide. Hopefully this will be done before Logos 7, but this tool needs a major overhall. This has already been discussed so much on here I don't think I need to go into details.
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This would be a high priority for me. The tool is virtually unusable for those like me who have a lot of collections. Make it easier to choose collections. The "Show collections" section on the panel menu (which only shows 6 at a time) is a major bottleneck, IMO. When you have a long list of them, it's impossible to efficiently find the ones you want to include, and "drag to change order" is a joke. It's also slow to display the panel menu.
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Bob, I am very happy you are so willing to pay attention to uservoice, but my feeling is that a very small percentage of users is actually using the tool. It might be an idea to have some action or promotion to motivate people to use uservoice. That would give more accurate information on what users want and it would give many users a place to voice their ideas.
Thanks for mentioning Uservoice, (which turns out to be a method for Logos users to vote for new features). I am a new user, still getting to grips with Logos 6 and enjoying participating on this forum and I hadn't heard of it. I went to have a look and to start voting, but I think I will need to use Logos some more before I appreciate what to vote for. For example, it's difficult to think why fuzzy search from Logos 3 would be good when I've only ever used Logos 5/6 and don't know anything about 3.
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1) Continue making awesome new datasets and features that we don't realize we need until you "invent" them
2) Continue blazing the trail of datasets and features that have never been done before and open up entirely new ways of studying and analyzing the text.
3) Continue updating existing resources with the new tagging and linking of the new features
4) Continue Reverse-Interlinearizing more Bible translations
5) If there is a way to come up with making relevant nuggets in Monographs as "discoverable" as you have started making them in Journals and Sermons, that'd be awesome...not sure that's possible, but I think Monographs are the only resource type left that aren't somehow discoverable/curated/etc.
6) Interactive Media, videos, and teaching material (I don't have L6 yet [upgrading next week]...but I'm really excited about the interactive media features)
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Improving Index.
Blessings in Christ.
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I would suggest the ability of showing multiple resources on the information panel.
Blessings in Christ.
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Fully integrate Faithlife Dating into Logos 7 search results for perfect link up [;)]
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I would love the ability to group and/or categorize my layouts.
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Kevin Olson said:
It would be great if you would do with Systematic Theologies what you have done with Ancient Literature in the passage guide. Under the Topic Guide, and/or under the Factbook, please put a link to all the sections of the Systematic Theologies that are in your library for the given topic.
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Francis said:6. Enable profiles for different users in the same family.
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How about a total overhaul of the code that underlies Logos for Mac so it runs more quickly? I.e., not slowly. 5 should have done this, 6 really should have... will 7?
Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
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Indexing databases on the end-user's PCs is wasteful, annoying, and too-easily breakable. Revamp indexing entirely such that all resources come pre-indexed, and individual resource indices are then collated into a master index on the user's computer. I realize this would be a major change - but something's gotta change here.
Performance. Performance. Performance. Now that .NET has been open sourced under the liberal MIT license, I'm expecting big things on the Mac side.
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Martin Diers said:
Indexing databases on the end-user's PCs is wasteful, annoying, and too-easily breakable. Revamp indexing entirely such that all resources come pre-indexed, and individual resource indices are then collated into a master index on the user's computer. I realize this would be a major change - but something's gotta change here.
Performance. Performance. Performance. Now that .NET has been open sourced under the liberal MIT license, I'm expecting big things on the Mac side.
Yes! Agreed. I forgot to add "pre-indexed" to my post.
Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
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Definitely overhaul the cited by tool.
Create a way to search both the table of contents and the index of every book in the library.
I also agree with Martin - that the way indexing is done needs to change. I would love to see resources come pre-indexed.
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Martin Diers said:
Indexing databases on the end-user's PCs is wasteful, annoying, and too-easily breakable. Revamp indexing entirely such that all resources come pre-indexed, and individual resource indices are then collated into a master index on the user's computer. I realize this would be a major change - but something's gotta change here.
Performance. Performance. Performance. Now that .NET has been open sourced under the liberal MIT license, I'm expecting big things on the Mac side.
I have assumed that Logos uses inverted indexes to allow for fast full-text searches. I have also assumed that each resource comes with its own forward index that has been pre-built and that only this forward index is being added to the local inverted index during the indexing process. In other words, I have assumed that each new resource is not being sequentially scanned to build a words/document file when this could be done at a one time cost on Logos servers. If this is not how it is currently being done, Logos is missing a major opportunity to improve performance.
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Martin Diers said:
Revamp indexing entirely
[Y] see http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6/suggestions/5088724-improve-logos-indexer-performance-allow-it-to-ind
Also, I am looking forward to the completion of some of the datasets that already exist, for instance the narrative flow charts.
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Martin Diers said:
Performance. Performance. Performance.
[Y] Performance is my number one wish. A close second: improvements to the quality of the Mac UI. The Logos UI design and attention to detail, especially on Mac, is not up to par (by a long shot!) with what I expect from an OS X application.
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Ted Weis said:
Fully integrate Faithlife Dating into Logos 7 search results for perfect link up
Ha ha! Where have you been? I already have Faithlife Dating results in my search hits.
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Rosie Perera said:Ted Weis said:
Fully integrate Faithlife Dating into Logos 7 search results for perfect link up
Ha ha! Where have you been? I already have Faithlife Dating results in my search hits.
Truly amazing.
Faithlife disclaimer: Please note that some relationships begun at Faithlife Dating could require frequent indexing for full functionality.
Abram K-J: Pastor, Writer, Freelance Editor
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Thank you for the opportunity to share these suggestions. I request Logos prioritize any update which would help reduce eye strain and benefit the healthy vision of its users. Such updates would include but not be limited to the following:
Logos 6:
- Allow users the option of decreasing the brightness level and adjusting the color shade of any current Bible book cover icon. Several Bible cover icons that were recently changed for Logos 6 (especially the ESV and LEB) are now so bright they are preventing me from comfortably focusing on the Bible text and are causing eye strain. If it would be easier for Logos to accomplish, please simply restore all Bible icons that were recently changed back to their original Logos 5 appearance (design, color, and brightness level). A third option would be to allow users to hide or "turn off" Bible book cover icons when the resource is opened. (In addition to Bibles, there are several other resource icons to which this issue applies, but Bibles are a higher priority.)
- Allow users the option of customizing the background color of individual resource panels and the font color that appears within them. In my opinion, the current “White” background color is uncomfortably bright. Among potential color options, I recommend various darker shades of white, a lighter shade of “Paper”, and a night mode with black background and green font.
- Allow users to customize the background color within the pop-up window which appears when the mouse hovers over a cross reference within Bible text as well as the color, style, and size of the font used within the window. Also, please include the option of increasing the overall size of this window.
- Allow users to customize the panel background color and font color, style, and size within the Power Lookup Tool.
- Allow users to set a highlighter color of their choice to display Search engine results. I realize these highlights are intended to stand out within the text, but the current solid yellow/orange color is irritating for my eyes (especially when there are multiple hits in close proximity). This issue is most evident with Search results for the “Library Results” section within “Factbook” searches which highlight nearly the entire first paragraph of the article. This is visually overwhelming and in my opinion, unnecessary.
- Allow users to set a highlighter color of their choice to display the “Links to Open Panels” visual filter. Currently this visual filter is defaulted to a solid dark pink color which at times can be visually overwhelming.
- When using “Print/Export”, please allow users to increase or decrease the font size and customize the font style of any resource (especially Bibles). In Logos 5, I used Print/Export often to avoid hours of staring at a desktop computer screen. This feature also allowed me to get up and walk around while reading printed text rather than setting for prolonged periods; however, I am no longer able to do this because the default font size in Logos 6 is uncomfortably small for my eyes and is unable to be changed. Please also restore the option of adding Bible notes (literal renderings, alternate translations, or explanations), without cross references, to the footnotes section at the bottom of the printed page.
- For the Copy Bible Verses tool, please allow users to add Bible notes without cross references to the footnotes section at the bottom of the page when exporting Bible chapters/passages to an MS Word document.
Logos Android App:
Please increase the font size for Bibles and all resources within the Logos Android App. I have attempted to use this app on my Samsung Galaxy S-4, but the font scale slider will only adjust the font from microscopic to tiny to small. The font would have to be significantly larger for this app to be of practical use for me. Also, please provide font style options and increase the page turning speed of all resources within this app.
Logos 7 Proposed Feature:
Please create an option to use a soft highlighter color of one’s choice which will highlight a particular Bible verse and scroll down (verse by verse) as one reads through the Bible. This verse highlighter would be controlled up or down by the keyboard arrow keys or the mouse wheel. (I have previously used this feature within WORDsearch and it significantly helped in reading text.)
Thank you!
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I would really like it if Logos 40 could refill my cup with fresh, hot coffee whenever it empties (with a options for tea, cream, milk, sugar, sweetener in the settings). Also reading my thoughts (selectively) and arranging them neatly in paper format (with thesis statement, outline and SBL formatting) would be great. In fact a neural interface would be even better: think of something you want to do in Logos and it does it, without you having to remember syntax, commands and the likes. Something like the Star Trek computer or Jarvis in Ironman. Lastly, I want special 3D glasses and sensory gloves that take me into Atlases and infographics, allowing me to visit Israel, ancient lands and virtually manipulate ancient artifacts. Flashcards should also be upgraded for direct brain download [:D]
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Abram K-J said:Rosie Perera said:Ted Weis said:
Fully integrate Faithlife Dating into Logos 7 search results for perfect link up
Ha ha! Where have you been? I already have Faithlife Dating results in my search hits.
Truly amazing.
Faithlife disclaimer: Please note that some relationships begun at Faithlife Dating could require frequent indexing for full functionality.
Note that couples who meet via Faithlife Dating and subsequently marry can share their installation of Logos on multiple computers.
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Fr Devin Roza said:
- Most importantly, create an advanced search builder. I would imagine this working with "columns" that are connected by search operators like AND / OR / WITHIN, etc. Each column could begin with a dropdown that lets you choose the type of info (text, Milestone, PassageList, Morph, Clause, greek word, hebrew word, etc.). After choosing from the dropdown, depending on the option chosen, other boxes would appear to the right that would correspond to the options of that particular option / search extension.
Maybe this is obvious, but I actually meant "rows" instead of columns. So, each row would be one section of the search, connected to the next row by AND, OR, etc.
Something like this, if well done, could actually eliminate the need to even have multiple search tabs (Basic, Bible, etc.). I'm not sure if having only one search tab would actually be a good idea... but that is something that could be explored by the design teams - with the search extensions, at least, it is no longer a necessity, so it would be a good time to reconsider how search should work with these new possibilities opened up by search extensions.
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Graphical search engine would be very nice.
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Rokas said:
Graphical search engine would be very nice.
I agree![Y]
And, a graph results feature for Syntax searches!
חַפְּשׂוּ בַּתּוֹרָה הֵיטֵב וְאַל תִּסְתַּמְּכוּ עַל דְּבָרַי
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- What if you just integrated Evernote search in with the basic search? No syncing/import/export, just being able to display search results, and see the Evernote note. And have it display under its own little heading the same way it works for Sermonaudio, Graceway Media, etc.
The reason this would be awesome, is because while Logos has all the published info I'd ever want, Evernote contains everything from everywhere else that I have run across. Saved articles, personal notes ive taken, scans, etc etc. So, having this would basically allow me to search everything I have gathered in right in Logos.
And since Evernote integrates with 1000 other services, this would make adding content extremely flexible. - Add a user interface for Boolean searches to make complicated searches easier. Similar to how it is in the Finder on the mac.
0 - What if you just integrated Evernote search in with the basic search? No syncing/import/export, just being able to display search results, and see the Evernote note. And have it display under its own little heading the same way it works for Sermonaudio, Graceway Media, etc.
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I find it striking that even after the reminder that uservoice should be used, many of the suggestions here are not accompanied by links to corresponding uservoice posts (if any).
Of course, Bob did ask for our suggestions here, in this thread, and so, it is also normal to reply here (in the belief that Bob has particular interest in this thread and is looking at it personally). But still, a suggestion expressed here cannot be voted for in the way that it can on uservoice. As a matter of fact, I notice also very little interaction about the suggestions here. There is some, but not that much.
It may be worth asking as well what the relationship between the "Suggestions" category in the forums and uservoice is. Of course they don't work the same, but don't they compete in some way? I would tend to think that because forums are so much more multi-functional, people prefer to post here than to go elsewhere (this is true about using the wiki as well). What about, when one chooses "suggestions" as the category for forums, being redirected to uservoice (with perhaps a blab explaining why and what to do for those who don't know)?
I wonder whether, much like there is a sidebar for blog entries in the forums (which by the way, is the main way I connect to the blog. That is, I don't check the blog regularly but only when I see a title that catches my attention from the right sidebar in the forums). A sidebar that top or "trendish" posts on uservoice might help keeping it in view and in mind. Here I think the saying applies: out of sight, out of mind.
Another option, if the sidebar in the forums is already too crowded, would be to have it as one of the content that can toggled on/off on the Logos desktop homepage.
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I find "uservoice" inadequate - u get a certain number of votes- then only can comment- come on- "notes" needs a lot of work but can only vote for a couple.
Logos 7 needs to have one thing DONE- finish tagging the resources- there is so much material not referencing each other its unbelievable.
Remember this paragraph, it use to appear in all resources- now very few, and is the main reason for buying LOGOS!
"With the Logos edition of this resource, these powerful reference tools automatically integrate with your Logos library, allowing you to cross-reference them and study Orthodoxy like never before. Pull these accessible texts up side-by-side with other theological experts in your library to see what other denominations have to say. Important terms, figures, and dates link to dictionaries, encyclopedias, the timeline, and a wealth of other resources in your digital library. Logos mobile apps let you bring the discussion with you. With Logos Bible Software, the most efficient and comprehensive research tools are in one place so you get the most out of your study."
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
Logos 7 needs to have one thing DONE- finish tagging the resources
I am not sure that I would describe this as the one thing. But I do agree with you that though, marketing-wise, the release of new features and new version numbers is more salable (upgrades, crossgrades, etc) and may be necessary to the longer-term sustainability of Logos, it does compete with work on what's already here and is incomplete. Tagging is a big part of this. In an earlier post, I mentioned the help file as well.
I actually liked the way Logos 6 suddenly "appeared" for many (not all) of us. I did not expect it to be so early. I would be fine though with waiting a bit longer to Logos 7 yet see such a major advance on updating existing materials that it could be announced as Logos 6.5. Of course, a substantial (as opposed to progressive) release of resource updates is bound to run into October 26 type of issues (problems downloading, indexing, etc). But still, it would be very nice and I think that most users would find this highly desirable.
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
Remember this paragraph, it use to appear in all resources- now very few, and is the main reason for buying LOGOS!
"With the Logos edition of this resource, these powerful reference tools automatically integrate with your Logos library, allowing you to cross-reference them and study ...... like never before ..."
Good observation, I had not recognized that the statement has disappeared.
Many program suites, like Adobe and Autodesk allow plug-ins to enhance their functionality. Maybe some users could be ready to invest to a computer aided tagger tool, in case someone develops it?
Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11
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My 2p worth:
Here, on a scale of 0 (lowest) to 10 (highest) is how I value enhancements.
10: Improve Stability
Logos crashes perhaps once per week for me, which is too much.9: Improve Performance
Startup times of several minutes are too long, Logos seems to spend time synchronising my library every startup, then downloads and indexes. The orange circles that appear when navigating through a bible are very time-wasting in my workflow where I have a list of verses that I want to look up and copy – a couple of seconds each time to display orange circles is annoying. This also makes it slow to quickly move between passages if wanting to check something.8: Improved Organisation of Library
Scrolling through a list of several thousand resources is almost impossible to do fruitfully. Collections help a little but I’d really like to see resources organised into expandable hierarchical folders like Windows Explorer that are put there by drag and drop. Ideally, this would be a view rather than a physical location so that I could have multiple logical organisations of resources (e.g. I might want to organise my commentaries by series, book, etc. There should be a way to choose the size of icon or list details much like windows explorer gives.7: Improve Searching
Find better ways to get me the results I want and deprioritise those I don’t. Google seems to do a much better job at general searching with many more documents to cater for. LCV and the everything search are a good step forward but I’m concerned that they rely on Logos tagging and this may not be perfect. One thing in particular I would like is the automatic translation between British and American English in search so that, e.g. if I search for honour it would also find honor and vice versa.6: Improvements to Android and Apple Apps
They are too difficult to use. I'd like to be able to read a bible with linked commentary easily or to read greek and have it look up in lexicons easily or show interlinears easily, much the same as in the desktop. Some of these are partly possible but don't work too well. I noticed that much less costly bible software can find things a lot quicker on mobile platforms.1: Whizzy new features that aren’t immediately obvious to me why I need them.
0: Anything that requires the internet in order to work.
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Bob Pritchett said:
And after you've helped us prioritize the Logos 6.x path, post your crazy / wild / big idea for Logos 7 here.
A couple ideas would be:
1) A way to "lock" a panel so that Logos cannot automatically add any resources to it. Perhaps you have a library window or a set of Bibles that you don't want Logos adding more resources to, just click a "lock" button and Logos has to ignore them.
2) I am a user who has a separate highlight document for each resource I use. It would be nice to "tie" my highlight document to that resource so that I don't have to open the document each time I want to highlight in that resource.
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BriM said:
The orange circles that appear when navigating through a bible are very time-wasting in my workflow where I have a list of verses that I want to look up and copy – a couple of seconds each time to display orange circles is annoying. This also makes it slow to quickly move between passages if wanting to check something.
These are called "Visual Cues" and can be turned off in the General section of Program Settings.
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L7/V7 should have improved library management that increases application functionality.
- link a text and its translation together so that one can toggle between them ... especially important for church documents in Latin/English/Spanish
- link a text to a lectionary so other lectionaries can have the feature of opening a ritual book (Missal) in the default layout. It needs to be user set to handle the Anglican and Lutheran communities with their many options.
- When a book is divided into multiple resources, the library needs a column to show their relationship and one needs to be able to navigate through them as a single unit as well as each resource individually
- Bible translations embedded in commentaries need to function like a full-fledged Bible translation re: highlighting, comparison, etc.
- Commentaries in which have a multipart structure for each pericope, e.g. text, notes, commentary, need to be able to be open in multiple panes with the sections behaving as a link set; one should also have the option of tabbing through the sections.
- Study/discussion questions should be tagged and have their own PG section
- Prioritization should have sub-headings, a readable chart of how your priorities apply to the categories used in the program, and a quick way to view resources not prioritized.
- Metadata should contain the primary translation used by the resource and one should be able to easily default to that translation
- Metadata should indicate the tagging of the resource so that one can easily create collections of resource that do/don't appear in a tag-driver guide section
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
When a book is divided into multiple resources
I am not sure I understand why it is so at times. For instance, to have a zillion 'resources' each corresponding to a single manuscript (usually one page) clutters the library list. Since we can duplicate resource tabs (and so put side by side different manuscripts from the same resource), I am not sure I understand what the idea/use is. This is all the more puzzling that this is not true of similar resources. Examples: targumic fragments, the biblical scrolls from Qumran and the text of the earliest New Testament Greek manuscripts.
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I'm not suggesting that Logos divide books - only that when they do they are visibly tied together - for example the BCP's have their Psalters split out as type Bible with nothing visible to the user tying the two pieces together. I think that in some cases they are divided because of differences in resource type ... as for the various manuscript fragments, can't say I even have a good guess on why they were separated.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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- Better linking/following with commentaries. (Already mentioned at length.)
- A shortcut to the command bar that doesn't require 3 fingers, like the escape key, instead of the current shift-alt-delete-capslock-T or whatever it is. (I can never remember, but it requires both hands. Not user friendly. I rarely need my mouse in Bibleworks.)
- A title view in the library that treats series like one book. I don't even have that many resources ( 700ish), but when scrolling through my library, I end up scrolling really fast to get through dozens of Biblical Archaeology Review, Bible Review, and Biblical Archaeologist issues, where every issue is a separate title. And then I overshoot and miss whatever comes after. I guess I'm asking to add an expandable level in to the title view.
- (On Mac) the ability for Logos to remember it was open full screen, so when you reopen it, it opens full screen. I always want it full-screen, but it has no state memory.
- Selective sync with certain preferences. My iMac and Macbook Air have very different amounts of real estate and resolution. Font sizes and layouts for one don't quite work for the other, and I'd prefer not to sync them. I get around the layout issue by cloning, renaming as "Layout" and "Layout-Laptop" but it's minority inconvenient.
- More font/background control. When I have 5 panels with two dozen tabs, it would add clarity if I could make my Biblical text a different font/background color/texture to distinguish it visually from the other panels. I don't know if this would work better as a per-resource setting or a per-resource type, i.e. "all commentaries should have this font and background."
Related, I would also like independent control of non-English font sizes. Sometimes I need my Hebrew bigger than what it is, but can't change that without making the English ridiculously large. - Clarify popups, e.g. in the settings, mousing over the "?" by "Show Visual Cues" helpfully explains that that setting controls whether Visual Cues are shown. Well, duh, right? But Mr. N00b User has no idea what Visual Cues are, and the helpful popup doesn't provide any help. It's the Visual Cues part he needs help with, not the "what does 'show' mean?"
That's my list for now. Many thanks for soliciting feedback.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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8.I sometimes find myself remembering a snippet from a search I've performed in the last few days... but not enough to find it again. If there were an easy way to limit a search to "resources/passages viewed/opened in the last X number of hours/days/weeks", that would be quite helpful to me.
9. If I can expand on my request for finer control over non-English fonts, check out this screenshot. I have one size of Hebrew for Targum Onqelos on the right. The headings in Jastrow are weirdly fat/large (bolded Hebrew?) But then the navigational Hebrew in Jastrow's contents pane is unreadably tiny.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton
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Personal Preaching Tacklebox
Every preacher would at least in theory like to have a personal collection of quotes, anecdotes, illustrations, etc. I would like to see Faithlife add a new tool to allow users to easily create and maintain such a resource.
Such a tool needs at least the following fields:
- Type: Quote, Anecdote, Illustration, etc.
- Title: Give a title that sums up the text
- Themes: Selection of one or multiple themes that this quote, anecdote, etc. illustrates.
- Text: The actual quote, anecdote, etc.
- Author: The author / source
Ideally it would also include these fields as well:
- Related (Scriptural) References - If the text was taken from a resource in Logos, this field could also be automatically populated with a link to where it came from. It should allow related Scriptural references as well.
- Visual Copy link / thumbnail: Sure, why not?
Some characteristics:
- This should be a real resource, that I can open and browse through. It should create entries that look something like this (taken from the "300 Quotes for Preachers from the Puritans" resource):
- The results should show up in the respective Guides - in the Illustrations tools, etc. found in the Sermon Starter Guide and other places.
- I should be able to select a text, right click, send it to my tacklebox, and have some of the fields filled out automatically (such as "Text" and "Author"), and then be able to select the other fields and add.
- I should be able to add without selecting a text as well. i.e. just create a new entry from scratch, or copying in from some other document, etc.
- Ideally it should be able to import texts from Word / XML that follow a certain pattern that Faithlife could determine. As well, I should be able to export my collection to that same format, to allow preachers to share and easily expand their tackleboxes with others. Obviously, one place something like this could be shared would be Faithlife, with a Faithlife group to share, well done tackleboxes promoted, etc.
- I should also be able to easily search through my preaching tacklebox based on any of the fields.
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Ben said:
I sometimes find myself remembering a snippet from a search I've performed in the last few days... but not enough to find it again.
I don't know if I misunderstand what you mean, but can't you do that from the History feature (under tools)? And, at least it's available on the PC version, there is a little arrow right of the search field in the search window that opens up a list of most recent searches.
Fr Devin Roza said:Every preacher would at least in theory like to have a personal collection of quotes, anecdotes, illustrations, etc. I would like to see Faithlife add a new tool to allow users to easily create and maintain such a resource.
Don't you think we could do that with clippings if it were more freely editable and not limited to Logos resources?
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Francis said:
Fr Devin Roza said:
Every preacher would at least in theory like to have a personal collection of quotes, anecdotes, illustrations, etc. I would like to see Faithlife add a new tool to allow users to easily create and maintain such a resource.
Don't you think we could do that with clippings if it were more freely editable and not limited to Logos resources?
Clippings does not currently have the majority of the features I suggested a Preaching Toolbox offer. And those features Clippings does have have some serious implementation problems, so no.
However, the idea of improving Clippings so that it also offer some of the features I suggested a Preaching Toolbox offer sounds good to me! Clippings is such a great feature idea, but in the practice is missing so many things that it's tough to use (search results are unable to take you directly to the hit, doing a find within a clipping document doesn't actually work, etc., etc.). So, I guess the fact that Clippings is such a poorly implemented feature indicates to me it wouldn't make a solid base to build a Preaching Toolbox off of. I think we would get better results if Faithlife built a Preaching Toolbox "from scratch".
Maybe that could also be used as a basis for a new Clippings tool that would replace the actual one? After all, it would be so much better if Clippings documents just acted like normal resources, were searchable as a normal resource, etc., etc., in a similar way to how I imagined a Preaching Toolbox working. Hmmm....
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Fr Devin Roza said:
Maybe that could also be used as a basis for a new Clippings tool that would replace the actual one? After all, it would be so much better if Clippings documents just acted like normal resources, were searchable as a normal resource, etc., etc., in a similar way to how I imagined a Preaching Toolbox working. Hmmm....
Yes, I lean in that direction because while you have a very specific application in mind, a tool that is more versatile could have other applications and be serviceable to building a "preaching toolbox".
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There are many reasons to have Accordance as well and this is one of them and wouldn't be a simple matter to implement in Logos/Verbum. I haven't installed the Bible Review CD-ROM I bought nor even decided whether I myself or the friend I'll research together should have it:
Ben said:3. A title view in the library that treats series like one book. I don't even have that many resources ( 700ish), but when scrolling through my library, I end up scrolling really fast to get through dozens of Biblical Archaeology Review, Bible Review, and Biblical Archaeologist issues, where every issue is a separate title. And then I overshoot and miss whatever comes after. I guess I'm asking to add an expandable level in to the title view.
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Unix said:
There are many reasons to have Accordance as well and this is one of them and wouldn't be a simple matter to implement in Logos/Verbum. I haven't installed the Bible Review CD-ROM I bought nor even decided whether I myself or the friend I'll research together should have it:
Ben said:3. A title view in the library that treats series like one book. I don't even have that many resources ( 700ish), but when scrolling through my library, I end up scrolling really fast to get through dozens of Biblical Archaeology Review, Bible Review, and Biblical Archaeologist issues, where every issue is a separate title. And then I overshoot and miss whatever comes after. I guess I'm asking to add an expandable level in to the title view.
Unix - I don't know how you determine whether something would be simply to implement in Logos / Verbum.
Ben said:A title view in the library that treats series like one book. I don't even have that many resources ( 700ish), but when scrolling through my library, I end up scrolling really fast to get through dozens of Biblical Archaeology Review, Bible Review, and Biblical Archaeologist issues, where every issue is a separate title. And then I overshoot and miss whatever comes after. I guess I'm asking to add an expandable level in to the title view.
Ben - I accept that this isn't an "expanding title" solution but are you aware that you can click on the Series column at the top of the Library and your resources are then sorted by series?
This might go someway towards addressing this.
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Ben said:
A shortcut to the command bar that doesn't require 3 fingers, like the escape key, instead of the current shift-alt-delete-capslock-T or whatever it is. (I can never remember, but it requires both hands. Not user friendly. I rarely need my mouse in Bibleworks.)
Interesting - are you running on Mac OS?
It is currently Alt-D on Windows and seems to be Opt-Cmd-L on Mac (but not sure about this)
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Faithlife offers over 40,000 titles, it would be a lot of work now, afterwards, for them to determine which ones to collapse in the libraries:
Graham Criddle said:Unix - I don't know how you determine whether something would be simple to implement in Logos / Verbum:
Unix said:There are many reasons to have Accordance as well and this is one of them and wouldn't be a simple matter to implement in Logos/Verbum. I haven't installed the Bible Review CD-ROM I bought nor even decided whether I myself or the friend I'll research together should have it:
Ben said:3. A title view in the library that treats series like one book. I don't even have that many resources ( 700ish), but when scrolling through my library, I end up scrolling really fast to get through dozens of Biblical Archaeology Review, Bible Review, and Biblical Archaeologist issues, where every issue is a separate title. And then I overshoot and miss whatever comes after. I guess I'm asking to add an expandable level in to the title view.
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Improve internal automated tools for linking books to other books to the point where you can run it on old books and have them brought more up to date than they currently are. Even if this means developing different engines for vyrso/logos so as to maintain the bargain nature of Vyrso titles. Else change the tagging and cost projections so that the tagging is done both ways prior to the release of a new books. IE If the book I wrote is linked to by 300 resources, updating those resources with the tags to the book I write. Develop automated tools to make this process easier and less costly.
Second, the ability to use word to embed audio files, as well as video files into my personal books. Even if it means (and this is second best) that the title won't be synced by logos.Third the Journal like section in search but for Systematic, dogmatics, and other titles of theology would be wonderful. This could be expanded to other things in the library as well.
Finally I would like to see journals (and if #3 becomes a reality, theology books and those other types as well) show up in the "everything" search. Is it really an everything search if it doesn't bring that data up?L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
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