Same old problem : Will Logos 6 let me export to a pdf longer than 100 pages? (I have version 5) .
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SLOWLY:
take a raw old text eg the Geneva bible
input via docx into Logos
Markup the thing in the HUGELY AMAZING way that only LOGOS can do.
Then, print it out.
BUT what I am told here is to take plain text, input into logos, markup, strip the markups, back into word processor ...........????
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Charles seems to be wanting to use 'the power of Logos' and then print it out. Actually it's a good idea. Granted those who don't own stock in lumber mills might murmur. But even without printing, the idea is still good.
I wish it would also include the user notes (or I can't see how).
EDIT: Sorry Charles to repeat by accident.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Correct Denise!!! Actually most of the time I want a PDF. Occasionally a printout of by bible. AS MARKED UP BY LOGOS.
I used to markup my bible by hand. Then when you want to change something you cant, and it took HOURS. Try highlighting every occurrence of the word baptism in red. Can be done manually but LOGOS is so much better. Now i markup my bibles IN LOGOS but they are STUCK IN THERE and it is so annoying.
Als0 any books I create in there are stunted by 100 pages. Why??
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Okay Charles, I think we're getting to the root of your issue. Since you are on a Mac, your .docx would be in Pages rather than Word. However, I think Denise is correct. You are not speaking about a Personal Book in the sense Logos uses the term, you are speaking about a personal book in a generic sense. Exactly where is the material you want to print out kept in Logos? Are you speaking about Notes? Clippings? Guides?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Charles said:
SLOWLY:
take a raw old text eg the Geneva bible
input via docx into Logos
Markup the thing in the HUGELY AMAZING way that only LOGOS can do.
Then, print it out.
BUT what I am told here is to take plain text, input into logos, markup, strip the markups, back into word processor ...........????
I'm sorry. I misunderstood you about markup before. I thought you meant the tagging that is put into the .docx file in Word [or Pages] and then Logos turns it into things like page numbers and bible reference milestones.
But I see now that you're talking about your highlighting markup that you've done to the book in Logos. Yes, it totally makes sense that you'd want to be able to export that and print it out. I don't think anyone was suggesting that you strip all of that out by exporting it back to Word [or Pages] and then printing from Word [or Pages]. When I suggested printing from Word I was talking about printing the original source document, the .docx file from which you built your Logos book; I was thinking you just needed the content printed, didn't realize you were talking about all your highlighting done in Logos. Again, apologies for my misunderstanding.
As you saw above, Faithlife developer Bradley Grainger has said your (and other users') frustration is being taken into consideration, as there's already a case for this issue. They might remove this limitation for personal books. It's under review. So be assured that you have been heard. It is a reasonable request, and I'm sorry if any of my replies before made you more angry.
We have a case tracking the suggestion to remove the 100-page limit for personal books; I've added a link to this thread. If that limit is removed, we'll post an update back here.
Here's hoping that they address your concern. In the meantime, it's probably not very productive to keep going back and forth on this here, unless someone else has a reasonable suggestion for a workaround in the mean time which you're willing to consider. The case has been made, it's a good one.
Do take our advice and create a UserVoice suggestion for it, as the suggestion will get more visibility that way. Here's the Logos UserVoice forum: anyone can add a suggestion. Just log in using your Logos email address.
http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-6
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I am leaving this silly thing. If Logos wants to do what it wants to do the so be it. The world is bigger than Logos. Other software does not give one the spanish inquisition as to :
WHY DO YOU WANT TO PRINT !!!!!!!!!ARE YOU A CRIMINAL ?? Explain yourself!!!!!! WHY DO YOU NEED TO PRINT MORE THAN 100 PAGES??????
This is a truly ridiculous question to ask anyone.
I want to use Logos as a tool.
Logos is there to supply its users needs.
If it does not then someone else will.
But I am going to let the world know so that less people get trapped into the little Logos world, wasting hour and hours of work and lots of cash in the process. I would not MIND paying the cash overall, but to cripple the product on purpose? At the tail end of a users learning curve? That is harsh.
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Randy and I have both given you solutions which would preserve the highlighting that is compatible with export/import formats. If you decide to try either of them, please report back on the results.
Use Randy's solution. Note: on my machine, I find 100 pages takes a long time to format. I usually break long documents into smaller units.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Seems your posts keep getting deleted Ms Smith! Sorry. Regarding what your tired to say, the 100 pages of pdf that I could print out were absolutely amazing. The Highlighting was SUPERB and in no way stunted. The only problem :
a computer program reading:
If Length_of Output > 100 then Length_of_output = 100.
And as a programmer I know that such statements do not originate from programmers who hate stunting their software.
It is a calculated management decision of the part of Logos management.
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I'm sorry Ms Smith but a work around is not a solution.
I could also hire a graphic artist to sit and create highlights for me.
But no,
I just want to print it out to pdf via the logos print system, as I was lead to believe I could.
Is that too much to ask for?
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Thankyou again Rosie for all of your input.
This case was made, months ago.
Nothing was done.
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I still do not know : Does Logos 6 still have the 100 page limit?
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Charles said:
I still do not know : Does Logos 6 still have the 100 page limit?
Yes - as per Bradley's earlier post at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/98007/675733.aspx#675733
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Thank you Graham. I will not be upgrading my software. You saved me some money. Perhaps I should buy you a coffee some time? You ever come to South Africa? I appreciate your time.
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Two points:
- It seems to me that LOGOS is being generous in letting us copy 100 pages. Other e-book tools limit us to 1 page or alloe no copying at all.
- Nothing shows our lack of faith in God more than going on social media & posting a rant that is contrary to everything Jesus died for. (Ronnie Collins)
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Firstly they are not generous : their products are painfully expensive.
You think showing faith is saying nothing when you are hampered in doing the work we are called to?
I rant because what they did is reprehensible and wasted days of my time and they will NOT fix it.
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Go to a restuarant.
Pay $300 for a steak.
They let you take one bite no more.
Will you be happy? Is that generous?
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Logos gets away with their dictatorial behaviour precisely because their clients are christians, with a distorted attitude like yours. Most christians do NOT conquer. They submit. No backbone when it come to the fight. Sad truth is without conquering, one does not get to eat of the tree of life. I see here an artificial device put in place that hampers my work as a something put there by the enemy and I will not keep quiet.
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Logos products can be expensive (not always, but their bread and butter items are pricier than competitors), but the features you're trying to use require no investment in these Logos products. The Personal Book Builder and Print/Export features are a part of the free engine.
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Floyd Johnson said:
Other e-book tools limit us to 1 page or alloe no copying at all.
First one i tried : Eloquent, loaded the entire book of psalms and no problem, will print it all.
And its free.
And it has some better features than Logos in some respects.
Logos is however super powerful overall and that is another reason why I am so upset by it being artificially crippled.
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Floyd Johnson said:
Two points:
- It seems to me that LOGOS is being generous in letting us copy 100 pages. Other e-book tools limit us to 1 page or alloe no copying at all.
- Nothing shows our lack of faith in God more than going on social media & posting a rant that is contrary to everything Jesus died for. (Ronnie Collins)
To restrict printing a personal owned book to 100 pages is reasonable? I say Logos is being unreadinable. It could be fixed by changing a line of code.
To highlight an illegitimate limitation imposed by Logis Is NOT "..a rant that is contrary to everything Jesus died for."
http://www.TrinityExamined.com
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Charles said:
Logos gets away with their dictatorial behaviour precisely because their clients are christians, with a distorted attitude like yours. Most christians do NOT conquer. They submit. No backbone when it come to the fight. Sad truth is without conquering, one does not get to eat of the tree of life. I see here an artificial device put in place that hampers my work as a something put there by the enemy and I will not keep quiet.
Logos Power Users (and Whales) do not let the company off the hook.
PS May I remind you how Christ conquered? Phil 2:1-11
Edit: removed a comment that sounded more provocative than I intended.
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Please read Revelation re conquering William. I do not want to argue theology here. But look for the many times conquering is mentioned.
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And it IS true Christ conquered! Now, its our turn. Problem is most christians have been deactivated by deceitful teachings.
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Charles said:
Please read Revelation re conquering William. I do not want to argue theology here. But look for the many times conquering is mentioned.
I have. The issue at hand has nothing to do with conquering--especially in light of an exegesis of Revelation.
You're right, we should not argue theology here, but recognize that you've turned Logos' development policies into a theological issue with your statement.
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To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.Sounds like a good idea to overcome/conquer.
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You are right William. I will try and stick to the topic.
I would love to see Logos remove the crippling and artificial restraint on getting any of my work out of the bits and bytes and into the real world.
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I must admit to this : I Love Logos. It is hands down the best software aide to the study of the Word that there is. I work with 3 LARGE screens opened to all the corners of the word. Logos has some totally amazing features: the highlighting and the search, well they are so so so good. The ability to tag verses by subject and then have Logos do all the work for you and keep them organized is incredible. And with each iteration it just gets better and better, and the competition is just in another ballpark altogether, power wise.
And then they go and shoot it in the head. On purpose. Maybe they just do not know what they did? But I think they know what they are doing.
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Charles .... Bradley (Logos) threw you a bone. He normally gives some sort of rationalization. With any luck, in a new future update, they'll take a pass on the personal book export limitation.
Then we'll all benefit. And you'll get back to work doing the Lord's business. Logosians like to toss bait out.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Hello again Denise. Thanks for writing...problem is in January of this year I raised the SAME thing and was given the SAME run around. Now, after a whole new release, they still can't "Fix " this? And i saw other people very politely saying " please sir can we print, like the rest of the planet can" and the response from Logos is since version 4 printing is closed and done.
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Thankyou for writing Rnady.
I do take your rebuke for what it is and I am chastised, and you make good points in your post.
However this is my 2nd time around and nothing gets done.
My choice : speak up. Loudly. Because this thing is a silly problem and should not exist.
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