New Bug in Text Selection on 6.0b 6.0.2.0042?
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Graham Criddle said:BillS said:
Based on Bohuslav's input in this thread, I no longer believe I'm the only one.
Me as well - I posted a separate thread at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/99428.aspx
I only see this behaviour with the CBV panel open. Does that affect things for you as well?
On first blush, it does seem improved (i.e., it hasn't happened in the 1st few minutes since closing that panel in my layout). I'll leave the panel closed (unless I need it) & will keep testing it without CBV open.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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BillS said:Graham Criddle said:BillS said:
Based on Bohuslav's input in this thread, I no longer believe I'm the only one.
Me as well - I posted a separate thread at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/99428.aspx
I only see this behaviour with the CBV panel open. Does that affect things for you as well?
On first blush, it does seem improved (i.e., it hasn't happened in the 1st few minutes since closing that panel in my layout). I'll leave the panel closed (unless I need it) & will keep testing it without CBV open.
Thanks for the suggestion!
After an hour or so of use, seems improved, but still has problems... When problem occurs, same behavior as before--selects several pages down, with beginning of selection at end of where I tried to select. Still selecting text right & down... Smart Pick still OFF.
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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BillS said:
After an hour or so of use, seems improved, but still has problems... When problem occurs, same behavior as before--selects several pages down, with beginning of selection at end of where I tried to select. Still selecting text right & down... Smart Pick still OFF.
Another instance of the bug (new unwanted behavior with this release) is unchanged, near 100% failure:
- Select text.
- Highlight it.
- Press Shift & then attempt to extend the text (in order to extend the highlight) by left clicking at a later location.
- On left click, what SHOULD be the new end-of-highlight is the beginning, & new end-of-selection is several screens down.
Thanks for listening...
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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I can get to occur some of the time in ESV with Smart Text Selection
- select a paragraph e.g. Gen 26:12-16
- scroll selection off-screen
- Shift-click at start of a paragraph e.g. v. 23
Dave
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Smart Select is turned off.
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I've got the same problem on my Macbook. I just closed the CBV panel and that seems to improve things (although often when I'm highlighting it's to use the CVB).
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Does the problem go away if you disable all visual filters on the resource you are selecting? (if so, I'd love to know which visual filters were enabled)
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Response to Alan's question: I still have the same problems. It's not always the same results--very inconsistent in its behavior--but the bottom line is that I cannot use the mouse to select ONLY the text I want to select. It jumps ahead to include many paragraphs or chapters. It also often "flips" as I extend the selection, so that at a certain point, everything above the cursor is deselected and several paragraphs below it are selected all at once.
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Chip, the only way I have seen consistent reproducing of the problem, it was related to having the "Links to open panels" visual filter enabled. Once I disabled that in all my resources, I was able to select without problem.
I have created a case for it now that I have consistent repro steps.
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I have tried this solution and it seems to work. Although then it disables one of the major features, at least as I understand it of keeping everything linked? Or is it for some other purpose? I can't really find a reference that describes what this feature is supposed to do. But I'm assuming this is still a bug and is only a temporary workaround?
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Dale Garman said:
Although then it disables one of the major features, at least as I understand it of keeping everything linked? Or is it for some other purpose?
It is for some other purpose.
"Links to open panels" provides the ability to identify where a place in one resource is referenced in another. For example, if you have a Bible open to a particular verse and are looking up a word in that verse in a lexicon, the verse indication in the lexicon will be highlighted making it easy to see how it is described. See example below
To actually link resources so that they scroll together you use Linking - https://wiki.logos.com/Linking_Resources
Dale Garman said:But I'm assuming this is still a bug and is only a temporary workaround?
Yes - this is correct
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Graham is correct.
Personally, I would recommend disabling that visual filter in all resources and only turning it on in specific cases because it is a very aggressive visual filter with regard to how much work it performs.
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Thanks so much. I'll use the workaround when copying verses until the bug gets fixed.
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Alan Palmer (Faithlife) said:
Graham is correct.
Personally, I would recommend disabling that visual filter in all resources and only turning it on in specific cases because it is a very aggressive visual filter with regard to how much work it performs.
After working about 10hr yesterday in the same resource where I've been having problems, I can report that this fix helps with problem as I've previously reported them, but it doesn't completely eliminate all problems with selection. Random but numerous instances of some sort of selection "inversion" (the last part of the text selected seems to act as an anchor for several pages of text that I DIDN'T want to be selected instead).
Blessings on your effort to find & fix this annoying bug.
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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I have implemented a fix for this issue. We will update this thread when the fix ships publicly. Thank you!
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Thanks! Here is the thread with my screen casts and screen shots of the bug if it helps:
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/99669/689680.aspx#689680
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Chris Culy (Faithlife) said:
I have implemented a fix for this issue. We will update this thread when the fix ships publicly. Thank you!
Thank you!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Alan, I have also posted here( https://community.logos.com/forums/t/100244.aspx) but will now just post and follow on this thread. The suggested fix seems to work for me as well, except if one decides to scroll down rather rapidly to make a selection. Then, as before the end point suddenly pivots to become the start point, or again, much more text is selected than one intended. But if I select slowly, the work around seems to indeed work. Thanks for this interim solution!
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I've turned that feature off and the weird highlighting still continues to happen.
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Chris Culy (Faithlife) said:
I have implemented a fix for this issue. We will update this thread when the fix ships publicly. Thank you!
This should be fixed in 6.0b SR-3.
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I too am experiencing this exact issue in multiple resources. It seems to happen mostly when i continue to hold the mouse button too long after finishing the highlight. (when i say too long i mean maybe a second too long.)
I hope this gets fixed. I do a lot of highlighting and it gets harder to do it quickly.
UPDATE: The update fixed the problem. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
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Angela Murashov said:Chris Culy (Faithlife) said:
I have implemented a fix for this issue. We will update this thread when the fix ships publicly. Thank you!
This should be fixed in 6.0b SR-3.
After installation of 6.0b SR-3, & a quick check in the resource where I REALLY experienced the issue----I couldn't get it to fail.
I have more highlighting work over this next hour (different layout, different resource), & will report back if there are any issues.
THANKS MUCH for the fix that has really helped this one!
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Problem solved. Yaahoooo! Try update 6.0b SR3 from 2/10/2015. Thank you Logos. That was a frustrating problem.
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