Updated Logos.com Website!

Natalie Winburn (Logos)
Natalie Winburn (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 55
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Big news! We’ve released a major update to our Logos.com website today. You’ll find a mobile-friendly shopping experience, updated product page layout, new search features, and other improvements.

We’ve also separated the Spanish website onto its own URL, es.logos.com.

Our goal was to simplify the shopping experience for the average user and make Logos.com easy to navigate on any device. This also moves us toward the goal of having all of our stores running on the same commerce platform, which will provide a consistent shopping experience across our sites and make it easier and faster for us to add new features moving forward.

Since the forum includes many of our advanced users, you may find the occasional advanced feature that looks slightly different or wasn’t included (yet). We’ll continue making improvements and updates to the website and welcome your feedback and input. The official and most reliable channel for feedback is through this survey (you can submit it once per day), but you’re welcome to reply here as well with questions or comments.  

To celebrate the new site, we are offering 30% off your first order. See this page for the eligible products and coupon code.

We’re excited to have you explore this new website and hope it improves your experience on Logos.com!

 

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  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    Your percentage sort by "Savings" is still way off. It's not following the right numerical order.

  • mike
    mike Member Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭

    Also, can you make a check box for something to be excluded in the search result...say for an example... to exclude all the Mobile Ed stuffs in the result? I don't want to see them all the time in my results and neither I'm interested in them.

    Thank you.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    mike said:

    Your percentage sort by "Savings" is still way off. It's not following the right numerical order.

    This is because the site sorts by the published discount, but then displays your dynamic pricing discount. The sort order is therefore correct.

    This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!

  • Jan Krohn
    Jan Krohn Member Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭

    Adding all items from a wishlist to the cart with one click is great.

    Having to remove them one by one again is not so great.

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭✭

    First impression: The "Price/Add to Cart" box is MASSIVE, it's WAY TO BIG and is taking up too much space on the screen. Consider making it about 40% smaller so that you can fit more actual info about the product on the screen.

    Also, you've moved the info about what collections the product is in all the way to the bottom of the page, even below all the comments, which is extremely inconvenient. Consider putting it closer to the product description, above the comments. The first thing I typically want to know about a product is whether or not it is in any collections.

    Finally, the collections that the product is contained in don't seem to be listed in any logical order. Please list the collections in ascending order of price the way you used to.

  • Rick
    Rick Member Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭

    For the resources that I’ve looked at so far, the “Tradition” description has been removed from the product pages. I’m going to miss that. Also, I’ve noticed that a lot of resources don’t list the resource type, such as “Monograph“ or “Commentary”. I hope they get updated and the descriptions return.

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭✭

    Rick said:

    For the resources that I’ve looked at so far, the “Tradition” description has been removed from the product pages. I’m going to miss that. Also, I’ve noticed that a lot of resources don’t list the resource type, such as “Monograph“ or “Commentary”. I hope they get updated and the descriptions return.

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  • RHC
    RHC Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

     Please return to listing the author of each book in collections and bundles.

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭✭

    Another suggestion: Move the "Ownership Status" search filter box to the top of the list. That's a great option, but you have to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the very long list of search filters to get to it.

  • Rick
    Rick Member Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭

    The order history page has a HUGE step backwards. It used to be, if we wanted to see when we purchased a specific resource or it’s price, we could type the name of the resource into a search box and it would find the order information for us. That search box is gone. Now, we have to manually scroll through years of purchases to find the order information of the resource in question.

  • Natalie Winburn (Logos)
    Natalie Winburn (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 55

    RC said:

     Please return to listing the author of each book in collections and bundles.

    Can you share an example of what you mean here? I'd like to look into this further. We strived for a feature-parity move, though we know there may be some features that have been implemented on the new site in different ways. 

  • Natalie Winburn (Logos)
    Natalie Winburn (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 55

    Rick said:

    That search box is gone. Now, we have to manually scroll through years of purchases

    Hi Rick. Thanks for the feedback. I know the Order History page is a big change from what you're used to. We added the "Export to CSV" feature in hopes it would add ease for you to see orders in a spreadsheet format. You can also click the "Show All" button and use the CTRL+F function to search the page for a particular order. 

  • Rick
    Rick Member Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭

    you can also click the "Show All" button and use the CTRL+F function to search the page for a particular order. 

     

    I had not thought of that. Thank you. :)

  • RHC
    RHC Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    RC said:

     Please return to listing the author of each book in collections and bundles.

    Can you share an example of what you mean here? I'd like to look into this further. We strived for a feature-parity move, though we know there may be some features that have been implemented on the new site in different ways. 

    There's no authors listed for the books in the following bundle unless one hovers over the titles. I'm not sure if all the collections and bundles are like that, but other collections and bundles I've looked at also omit the authors.

    https://www.logos.com/product/177425/logos-8-bible-backgrounds-library-expansion-s

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,439 ✭✭✭✭

    From order history:

    Searching samaritan (popup doesn't work; search text hidden). And the massive advert plus empty block below??

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Natalie Winburn (Logos)
    Natalie Winburn (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 55

    RC said:

    There's no authors listed for the books in the following bundle unless one hovers over the titles.

    This is what the "old site" looked like for this same bundle: 

    You also had to hover over the title in order to see the author. Is this what you're referring to, or something else? 

  • RHC
    RHC Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    RC said:

    There's no authors listed for the books in the following bundle unless one hovers over the titles.

    This is what the "old site" looked like for this same bundle: 

    You also had to hover over the title in order to see the author. Is this what you're referring to, or something else? 

    I had thought that all the collections and bundles used to have a section at the bottom of the page where the authors and page counts for the individual books were listed. Maybe I was wrong and that information wasn't included for all the bundles as well. I looked again at a few collections on the new website and I see that information there for some of them, so I guess I made a mistake in thinking the expansion bundles used to have that information too. I ask that the new website include that information in the future for expansion bundles as well. Apologies for any misunderstanding.

  • Natalie Winburn (Logos)
    Natalie Winburn (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 55

    RC said:

    have a section at the bottom of the page where the authors and page counts for the individual books were listed.

    Ok, I think I was misunderstanding you in the beginning. We do still display the "Individual Overviews" section on most collection products. See this one for example. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like that info is available for the expansion bundles. I will pass along your feedback. 

  • RHC
    RHC Member Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    RC said:

    have a section at the bottom of the page where the authors and page counts for the individual books were listed.

    Ok, I think I was misunderstanding you in the beginning. We do still display the "Individual Overviews" section on most collection products. See this one for example. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like that info is available for the expansion bundles. I will pass along your feedback. 

    thanks

  • Celeste Fiorillo
    Celeste Fiorillo Member, Logos Employee Posts: 616

    Denise said:

    From order history:

    Sorry for the inconvenience! We've identified the issue you're having and will be fixing it soon.

    Denise said:

    Searching samaritan (popup doesn't work; search text hidden). And the massive advert plus empty block below??

    Thanks for the report - would you mind sharing what device you're using? That will help us troubleshoot. Thank you!

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,439 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the report - would you mind sharing what device you're using? That will help us troubleshoot. Thank you!

    Safari latest; ipad mini4

    I think it gets mixed up between the advert-show, and the search. In any event, you can't see what you're typing after the first word.

    Thanks.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭

    The wishlist reinserted items I already purchased.

    also miss the “contained in the following sets” that used to be on the right side of the screen.

    this seems like you’ve adopted the elements I disliked about the Verbum site.

    WIN 11 i7 9750H, RTX 2060, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD | iPad Air 3
    Verbum Max

  • Jerome Smith
    Jerome Smith Member Posts: 209 ✭✭

    Wish List needs to show which items I already own. The list used to show this by either showing "You own this product" or it had the price greyed out, I forget which.

    I have used the wish list to keep track of my either recent or high priority purchases. Otherwise it is very difficult to keep track of my prioritized purchases. Our libraries get quite large and it is easy to lose track of the titles I want to be sure to study.

    I also use the wish list to keep track of classic titles I most wish to purchase. It helps to see which of those I have already purchased.

    My general constructive suggestion would be that when updating or revising a feature or product, make sure its useful features are not discontinued.

  • Robert Neely
    Robert Neely Member Posts: 512 ✭✭

    Thanks for the sale!!  I made quite the dent in my wish list.

    I do agree with Jerome that items in your wish list should be grayed out instead of removed when purchased.

    This is going to take some getting used to but using the filtering options makes things a whole lot easier.

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭

    To celebrate the new site, we are offering 30% off your first order. See this page for the eligible products and coupon code.

    How long is the coupon good for? That's a lot of titles to sort through!

  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭

    To celebrate the new site, we are offering 30% off your first order. See this page for the eligible products and coupon code.

    "Restrictions apply"  Could you set out the terms please? In my cart I found that this was not discounted: https://www.logos.com/product/156095

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭

    Sean said:

    That's a lot of titles to sort through!

    And, it's a little annoying that for many of the different ways to sort, The Unseen Realm always seems to pop up at the top of the list. It's really not that good of a book.

  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,803

    Sean said:

    How long is the coupon good for?

    Around two weeks.

  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,803

    Sean said:

    Sean said:

    That's a lot of titles to sort through!

    And, it's a little annoying that for many of the different ways to sort, The Unseen Realm always seems to pop up at the top of the list. It's really not that good of a book.

    It's our bestselling title. I'm not sure what the relevance sort order is doing. It looks like a slight variation on bestselling. I don't think it's showing up first for any other sort orders. It depends on what filters are applied, I suppose. We're not artificially promoting it.

  • Martin Folley
    Martin Folley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭

    The seems to be an error with the way that existing URLS are handled WRT private browsing.

    A URL such as https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=&unlocked=no&Specials=On+Sale&Status=Live&pageSize=60&sort=savings&Language=English

    When viewed In a private browser gives this intrusive error:

    The expected behaviour is what the old site did. Show all the resources, ignoring the unlocked parameter. Should I wish to purchase, then I will log in. More oiften I want to browse ... rather than be excluded from the site altogether

    Please respect those of us who use private browsing by default ... 

    Thanks.

    2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭

    It's our bestselling title. I'm not sure what the relevance sort order is doing. It looks like a slight variation on bestselling. I don't think it's showing up first for any other sort orders. It depends on what filters are applied, I suppose. We're not artificially promoting it.

    It comes up first under "relevance" for the topic of theology... Oh well. Whatever.

  • Martin Folley
    Martin Folley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭

    Just curious ... what is the purpose behind this design? Are there different resources excluded from each site? It does not seem to alter the phone details next to them ... still a US number and something called PDT.

    Is there a real purpose to this option, is there different URL rather then this garish flag waving click fest that we can use?

    The current behaviour of the button seems non-sensical ... changing it takes takes you to a slow, graphic laden advert ... not sure why I should be taken anywhere ... no other site that I can think of would change a language setting and take you to completely different content t the same time!

    2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro

  • Vincent Chia
    Vincent Chia Member Posts: 428 ✭✭

    There is a problem with the pre-order product pages.

    Previously, I could see if a resource is included in another bundle. Now that detail is gone.

    Can you fix this?

    Director

    Elyon Family Clinic & Surgery Pte Ltd

    Singapore

  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 3,803

    Lee said:

    "Restrictions apply" Could you set out the terms please?

    1. You can use it only once.
    2. It applies only to the 25,614 products in this list; 7,094 products don't qualify (including base packages).
    3. It doesn't stack with other % off discounts or coupon codes (but could stack with a $ off birthday code).
    4. The discount expires in roughly two weeks.
    5. There's no minimum spending requirement or maximum savings limit.
  • Martin Folley
    Martin Folley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭

    Sorry ... just poking around at 5 am GMT ... woke early  ... slow to use the site in general ... massive circular 'working' symbol ... not internet connection speed ... 

    Back to URL modifiers ... is there one that reverts the 'wish lists' to a to being simply a list of wishes, similar to the old system. I have 15 well organised lists and browsing them is awful with the tiled layout. Each list is in a section of it own. I only keep wish lists  because I cannot afford most Logo resources unless they are in a sale ... now it is difficult to see that basic information without many clicks ... unless I am missing something obvious.... such as 'on wish list' as a facet item ... but I can only see ownership status ... and ownership is tucked in right at the last when it should be the first ... who browses resources that already own?

    Thanks.

    2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro

  • Martin Folley
    Martin Folley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭

    Back to the wish lists ... how do I move items between lists? I am looking to delete lists, remove resources, and merge them into a single list.

    Thanks.

    2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro

  • Martin Folley
    Martin Folley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭

    Finally found my pre-pub list... the move is logical but I am not sure why each row needs so much space when there is no image ... too much scrolling to get to the bottom and see a USD total only. Where is the estimate local currency figure?

    2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro

  • Martin Folley
    Martin Folley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭

    Email preferences section ... still does not seem to include blogs etc. ... only direct marketing.

    Internal distinctions aside ... why are blogs etc. not there as well ... they are also marketing.

    As are those unsolicited emails from sales people offering secret deals for the Logos Ultimatum Base Library ... can we stop those too?

    BTW.  Why does this take me to a site called 'Faithlife' rather than staying within the Logs site? ... if it is unified the please put all the information n one place!

    2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro

  • Martin Folley
    Martin Folley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭

    Credit card details ...

    How can I deselect a 'default' card so that I am explicitly prompted during the checkout process? There is a significant difference between cards, dependent upon the bill total ... so I would like to choose at checkout time. (It comes down to card having 'transaction' fees and differing exchange rates.

    Thanks.

    2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro

  • James Hudson
    James Hudson Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭

    Aaargh!

    The MOST annoying feature for me is still on the new website. Why is the limit of products shown in a search still the very measly and tiny 60 per page? Please, please add a show ALL results. (or better still, like most modern sites, have a dynamically refreshing list as I scroll down!!)

    Also please store the number selected in a cookie or similar, so it's not 3 page refreshes each and every time I search for products! Thanks.

    PS Does this website sort out the international pricing issue that will finally publishers to allow users to purchase items that were previously 'unavailable for purchase in your country'?

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are several bugs in how the new site displays the Lexham Press New Testament Studies Bundle (70 vols.) for me.

    1) It's showing me a dynamic price of $72.26, and yet total value if sold separately is less than that at $64.95.

    2) The list of volumes I'd get if I purchased it (i.e., when I have "Hide resources I own" checked) is empty.

    If I turn off the "Hide resources I own" checkbox, I can see a bunch of resources I don't own yet listed. These should all have showed up when I had "Hide resources I own" checked.

    • High Definition Commentary: James $13.99
    • James Verse By Verse (Osborne New Testament Commentaries) $13.99
    • Jesus Wins: The Good News of the End Times $9.99
    • The Righteous and Merciful Judge: The Day of the Lord in the Life and Theology of Paul $14.99
    • The Star of Bethlehem: Science, History, and Meaning $11.99

    (and indeed, their total comes to $64.95, confirming that was a correct total, but the dynamic price is suspect)

    3) You can't click and drag the mouse to select most of the entries in the list of resources, only ones that are expanded under an item that had a caret next to it. See video.

    -------------------------------------------------

    There's also a bug in how the new site displays the Lexham Press Old Testament Studies Bundle (42 vols.) for me. It's showing me a dynamic price of $35.78, and yet total value if sold separately is $0. In fact, there are no resources in this bundle that I don't already own. If I turn off the "Hide resources I own" checkbox, I can confirm this. They all say Owned. So the dynamic price should be $0, and Add to Cart should be greyed out.

  • Vincent Chia
    Vincent Chia Member Posts: 428 ✭✭

    Hello FL - Please don't ignore this.

    There is a problem with the pre-order product pages.

    Previously, I could see if a resource is included in another bundle. Now that detail is gone.

    Can you fix this?

    I do not want to double-preorder a resource which is in a bundle I already pre-ordered.

    So unless this is fixed, I can't do any pre-order.

    Director

    Elyon Family Clinic & Surgery Pte Ltd

    Singapore

  • ilian
    ilian Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭✭

    Kiyah said:

    The first thing I typically want to know about a product is whether or not it is in any collections.

    I miss this (under the price)!

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dynamic Pricing is not working on the Nelson Reference Collection (13 vols.)

  • mab
    mab Member Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭

    I really like the way things look.on the new website. It's much easier to see things. That could be a problem to my wallet....[8-|]

    The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭

    a major update to our Logos.com website today

    Thanks for the update. Teething issues experienced in the first few minutes of use:

    1. For pre-pubs, we used to know the (approximate) date it was being released. Can we still see that?
    2. The first pre-pub -- Classic Commentaries and Studies on the Pastoral Epistles Upgrade (10 vols.) -- is $19.99, but the "Total value if sold separately" is $0.10 (as shown below)
    3. Community Pricing can't be sorted by Progress (contrast Pre-Pub).
    4. Account | Order History is much less useful: I can't even see what I ordered last month.

    .

  • Fábio Silva
    Fábio Silva Member Posts: 41 ✭✭

    Hi, I don't know how big is your Portuguese speaking customer base and how many of them are from Portugal or Brazil or from other Lusophone countries. But seeing that you have the different kinds of Spanish with different flags and not for Portugal might throw some off. 

    Don't get me wrong, continental and Brazilian Portuguese are quite similar and most don't mind brazilianisms, we are used to it specially in christian literature (most good publishers are Brazilian). So I don't think that you need to hire a Portuguese translator and proof-reader to get another language on the website, there's an easier solution to keep both customer bases happy that many other companies have adopted in the past which is to have both flags on the icon. 

    This is just a minor detail and my opinion of the company and it's products remains undamaged even if you don't change this, but I seriously want Logos to do well in Portugal (I always try to convince fellow students and pastors to give it a go!) and trust me when I say we Portuguese are very proud of our language.

  • Robert Neely
    Robert Neely Member Posts: 512 ✭✭

    I do not see any ship date info on PrePubs.  That is going to cut down my buying drastically.

  • Paul Caneparo
    Paul Caneparo Member Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Lee said:

    "Restrictions apply" Could you set out the terms please?

    1. You can use it only once.
    2. It applies only to the 25,614 products in this list; 7,094 products don't qualify (including base packages).
    3. The discount expires in roughly two weeks.
    4. There's no minimum spending requirement or maximum savings limit.

    Thanks Phil. Can you be more explicit on the end date? You've had so many great sales recently I've been spending more than budgeted. I'd love to pick up some more books but need to delay until July 14th. I'm sure a known end date creates a flurry of orders for Faithlife - in a positive way.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,272

    I do not see any ship date info on PrePubs.  That is going to cut down my buying drastically.

    Can you give an example? I see a date (outlined in red)

    Or do you mean there are some prepubs for which there is no ship date? That was always the case until getting nearer to production.