Logos 9 Wishlist

Larry Craig said:

I wondered.  Am I going nuts?  So I moved the mouse over the icon on a closed tab, the X appears, and I click on the X, and  (wait for it)

voila!  the tab opens.  Then I click on the X again, and it disappears.

I'm running Logos 8.10.0.0034 on macOS Mojave and Windows 10.  The X works as intended.  It appears when I hover over an unfocused tab and closes as expected when clicking the X.

Here’s an illustrated version of the features requested for the sermon editor: 

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/187907.aspx 

DAL

Shouldn't the propsitional outline visual filter work for that.

Take advantage of the free training. I use both Morris(Proctor/Logos) and John(Fallahee/LearnLogos), and sometimes it takes both to "get it". I do support both guys by buyng a few lessons as well. With John you can get the Logos 8 bundle for next to nothing. I am now trying to hook it into  my writing. I'm using Scrivener,OneNote, Zotero, and Office Lens. I'm still organizing categories. I am also trying to figure out BibleNote.

I have Platinum Reformed Logos 8 and I have spent almost $13,000 since I installed the first version way back. It started to get really good at version 4.

I would like to see in Logos 9 a compare commentaries tool. I think that the power lookup tool could be improved to allow for this:

1. The ability to choose collection- Like all study Bibles

2.  The ability to read in Columns like the reading view.

3.  Allow the complete commentary to appear as opposed to abbreviated view.   

4.  Have corresponding words visual filters

Say I want to study Acts 9:2 and want to read all my commentaries just on that passage. Further I just want to look at all my Study Bibles dealing with the concept of letters sent. I could pick my Study Bibles then only have my commentaries that comment on letters and then read only that passage in my commentaries in columns one after another in reading view.    

Multiview has the ability to only practically list up to 10 commentaries side by side and then not all commentaries mentions that passage or comments on everything in that passage.  

Powerlook does not have the ability to choose collections and use corresponding words visual filter.

Passage list has collections but are listed in Alphabetical order and not by prioritized order as in power lookup and there is no ability to add visual filters and you can't read in column view.    

Please do SOMEthing with maps.  I am a bit of a map freak, so just spent about 40 minutes determined to master maps and somehow make them work no matter the cost. I give up. My experience was awful.  Figuring out how to access maps, find what I want without waiting for the cows to jingle home left me more frustrated than how my map adventure twice crashed Logos.

Just give me half a dozen simple indexed maps with about 50 locations that work fast.  Start there. You already have some decent "luxury" maps, so just make those work. 

GaoLu said:

Please do SOMEthing with maps. 

I agree!

They can improve Logos 5 Maps and make them so more useful.  They have refused to listen to suggestions with the argument we have invested so much in Logos 7 maps so we won't improve Logos 5 maps.  Why not?  Logos 5 Maps are more colorful and they are not dependent on the internet so finding thing can potentially be a lot faster.  

1.  Versify Logos 5 Maps so you can link with a Bible.  I have already created verses for each Map.  Feel free to use that.  

2.  Create the ability to click once in you Bible and then the Map will Zoom in to the place.  You don't have to retag the cities but find a way to link with the Bible city. 

3. Create visual filter in your bible for locations in contextual Maps so the reader can easily follow the event.

Kevin said:

The ability to create Reading Plans based on divisions in the table of contents of resources.

YES!!!

MJ. Smith said:

I am surprised that prioritization hasn't shown up several times in this thread - a version or two back it was a big issue and it still is an unsatisfactory mess.

You are absolutely right.  It would be great if the resources were divided by type, THEN give us the ability to prioritize.  Also, I would be happy if Logos offered their own tag for each resource and then give us an opportunity to edit those tags.  This is especially necessary for commentaries... 

When I work in WORD, the program can be set so that it will save my work every few minutes if I wish.  

I would like to see Logos save my work as I go.

For example, just now, I did something that totally changed the layout.  Instead of columns, I now had half columns.  To back to my old layout, I had to go to my saved layout, and while the format was the same, the resources were different.  

I suppose another way to say this is to have an undo button, or buttons.  Word and Excel can undo your work up to I think 10-20 steps.  Logos needs something like this.

Oh, the reason I lost my layout.  I was trying to highlight some material, and, like often, Logos wasn't responding to the mouse, so I clicked on the mouse too much apparently, and I clicked on something, and voila, layout rearranged.

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

What improvements should we make to existing features?

It's quite annoying when the System Narrator can't read Greek words or sentences when you are listening to a commentary. It spells them letter by letter. Please make the System Narrator to recognize Greek words and read them fluently within English texts.

Thanks, Randy!

I have been monitoring this thread for a couple of weeks now and I too echo some of the wishes for improvements in the Logos maps and Atlas tool, however my biggest wish for Logos 9 is for more polishing of Notes. Of all the tools in Logos, Notes is the one that I use and value the most. I thought the new Notes engine in Logos 8 was a significant upgrade but my biggest complaint is around the overall performance. When I create a new note I often find myself having to wait up to 10 seconds before I can begin typing. During this time Logos is unresponsive (indexing?) and if I just start blindly typing sometimes Logos catches up and sometimes what I have typed never materializes. When I am studying and have a thought I want to capture I don't want to wait. I want to capture the thought and quickly move on. If Logos 9 delivered nothing more than that I would consider it to be worth the upgrade.

Thanks Sean.

Sean Boisen said:

Batman said:

Phil Gons 

Last year I was extremely frustrated once again with Logos because I was able to find the verse in a fraction of a second doing a Google search for the verse where Jesus says to "deny yourself", while in Logos, it never showed up. Well, it turns out it is actually "deny themselves" (or, vice versa). I added more than just "deny yourself" of course, but, the point is, Fuzzy search did not work for me.  

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That definitely seems like a fuzzy search failure: i'll pass that along to see if we can remedy it (seems likely). 

However, note we sometimes offer an alternative search (as in this case): so a better set of results is one click away. That doesn't change my desire to have better results for the original query, though. 

When prioritizing resources, I right click.  It asks if I want to prioritize the book or the entire series.  If I click on just that one book, nothing happens.  If I drag the book to the priority column, it does the whole series.  I know there is a key stroke move that does that, but I forgot what it was and tried several things that didn't work.

The point is the process should be simple and intuitive.  Either when I drag a resource, it then asks if I want to include the whole series, or when I right click on the resource first, then let whatever I choose be what happens when I drag the resource.

You need to make the program to be less reliant on all these video courses.  

Thank you

Denise said:

Ok, I'll apologize right off. But FL isn't stupid. Last major update, and the one before that too, the 'users' (aka customers) were loudly insisting on fix-it and responsiveness. FL delivered 2,000 (exaggerated) new incomplete or promised features, and the users were so thrilled. "Oh, wow ... priotitizing is still bad ... this is great!!" "We love this 3 sec's faster opening!!"

The butter is always on the 'new' side of the bread.

😂😂😂 Gotta love your straight forward way of saying things! No apologies needed 👍😁👌

Phil said:

New windows for reading content always seem to open on the right... Add an option to toggle this between right and left, as I always have to manually move the content from the right half of the screen to the left half of the screen, which seems like a waste of time if I am doing that every time I open a resource...

If you click on the window that is opened before opening another resource, it will open the other resource to the opposite side.  Example: My preferred Bible or any book will initially open to the right, the next one will open to the left.  If I want another resource to open to the left instead of to the right, I just click anywhere on the resource to the right so when I open another resource it will open to the left.  Same if I want a resource to open to the right — click on the resource to the left before opening another book and it will open it to the right.  Does that make sense? It works for me.

How do you draw in the next generation of users?

One thing that I think would make a difference is making sure you have the books in Logos that are being used.

You have a lot of seminaries that you work with. Many keep a master list of syllabi in the library. Keep your thumb on the pulse of the books and authors that are being recommended to them.

IF you are working with a seminary (I noticed you're doing more with my own, which I appreciate) and a student has the academic discount (then you know what seminary they are with) show them books by class. Eg prs 6201 and have ALL the books for that class purchasable as a group.

Secondly there are only a couple of software platforms (moodle for instance) that schools use for online classes. you already have web browser elements built in as I recall, just give it a make over and allow it people to use it to log in to peoples classes, and bring up value added elements within logos. For instance if Class 1, has books 1-4, have a link that brings up each text book,in another panel link other books recommended by different important people across the church. EG you're in a preaching class? Spurgeon recommended books X, Y, and Z. You have these 2 in your library already (here are links to open them) and the third one is available from the store for whatever price, click here to see it. Oh you you're studying this topic? here is an interactive that is topically applicable. Plus whatever else your wonderful brains cook up thats related. I think you see what I'm envisioning.

Thirdly  integrate the theological tags project platform wide. its stalled out. We've exceeded the complexity limit for several of the rules, and there are hundreds perhaps thousands of books left to include.

abondservant said:

integrate the theological tags project platform wide. its stalled out. We've exceeded the complexity limit for several of the rules, and there are hundreds perhaps thousands of books left to include.

Yes, please. I’d like to get rid of the many complex collections that slow things down and mostly rely on tags where possible.

MJ. Smith said:

abondservant said:

Thirdly  integrate the theological tags project platform wide. its stalled out. We've exceeded the complexity limit for several of the rules, and there are hundreds perhaps thousands of books left to include.

IIRC we've already been told they've started on this project ... whether it is a one year or five year project, I don't know.

DAL said:

Phil said:

New windows for reading content always seem to open on the right... Add an option to toggle this between right and left, as I always have to manually move the content from the right half of the screen to the left half of the screen, which seems like a waste of time if I am doing that every time I open a resource...

If you click on the window that is opened before opening another resource, it will open the other resource to the opposite side.  Example: My preferred Bible or any book will initially open to the right, the next one will open to the left.  If I want another resource to open to the left instead of to the right, I just click anywhere on the resource to the right so when I open another resource it will open to the left.  Same if I want a resource to open to the right — click on the resource to the left before opening another book and it will open it to the right.  Does that make sense? It works for me.

I think Phil is referring to opening a resource from a blank layout, in which case the resource always opens on the right side.