Logos 10 Will be released...

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  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness Member, MVP Posts: 13,487 ✭✭✭

    ob indicated 4-5 cycles ago that they were moving to a two year cycle. Base upon the pattern for the past decade, it is generally expected that new packages will come out this fall. That doesn't tell us the month, but likely September - November. 

    Just in time for Christmas shopping [:P]

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith Member, MVP Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭

    If the “last Monday in October“ holds true, look for Logos 10 on October 24th, 2022 Wink

    It must be getting close. FL has run out of legacy libraries to re-sell! They need a new one.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    Well.... you see... I'm just scared about Logos 10..... cause I may not have enough money.....

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Kathleen Marie
    Kathleen Marie Member Posts: 812

    I doubt that I will be getting it right away, unless there is a specific feature that targets students, and that exact feature will make my daily life more manageable in a concrete way.

  • If the “last Monday in October“ holds true, look for Logos 10 on October 24th, 2022 Wink

    The last October Monday in 2022 is: 31 Oct 2022 "Halloween" so my personal opinion is Tue 1 Nov 2022 "All Saints Day" being better for Bible software release.

    Logos Wiki => Logos Release History shows:

    Logos 9 & Verbum 9 were released on the last Monday: 26 Oct 2020

    Logos 8 & Verbum 8 were released on the last Monday: 29 Oct 2018

    Logos 7 & Verbum 7 were released in August: Mon 22 Aug 2016

    Logos 6 & Verbum 6 were released on the last Monday: 27 Oct 2014

    Logos 5 was released on Thu 1 Nov 2012

    Logos 4 was released on Mon 2 Nov 2009.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Robert M. Warren
    Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭

    Here are some exciting features coming soon in Logos 10!

    Since Gregory posted, rumors of another exciting feature have leaked out. The Feature set of one of the denomination packages (I won't say which) will contain this watchdog code built-in. The cutting-edge web technology of Net Finney will be adapted for use inside Logos.

    See this link for details | TIBNN

    macOS (Logos Pro - Beta) | Android 13 (Logos Stable)

    Smile

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it too early to start the wish list for Logos 10? LOL

    It's actually too late. They have been working on it for the past couple of years, concurrently with the incremental releases of 9.x. So it's probably too late to get new features into the spec.

  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭

    If the “last Monday in October“ holds true, look for Logos 10 on October 24th, 2022 Wink

    The last October Monday in 2022 is: 31 Oct 2022 "Halloween" so my personal opinion is Tue 1 Nov 2022 "All Saints Day" being better for Bible software release.

    Logos Wiki => Logos Release History shows:

    Logos 9 & Verbum 9 were released on the last Monday: 26 Oct 2020

    Logos 8 & Verbum 8 were released on the last Monday: 29 Oct 2018

    Logos 7 & Verbum 7 were released in August: Mon 22 Aug 2016

    Logos 6 & Verbum 6 were released on the last Monday: 27 Oct 2014

    Logos 5 was released on Thu 1 Nov 2012

    Logos 4 was released on Mon 2 Nov 2009.

    Keep Smiling Smile

    On the other hand, some Protestant denominations celebrate “Reformation Day” on the 31st. So (assuming this isn’t regional to where I live) I could see FL doing that too. 

    To be honest, I forgot that I even started this thread when Logos 9 came out 2 ears ago. 😉

    WIN 11 i7 9750H, RTX 2060, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD | iPad Air 3
    Verbum Max

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭

    Gregory - that was extremely funny! I liked all four, but my favorite is the "Preacher Filter."

    iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.

  • skypeace
    skypeace Member Posts: 251

    Thank you, so enjoyed this.  Also glad for the insight into the possible release date as I need to budget for updates. 

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭✭

    Reviewing this thread gave me a much-needed laugh this morning. [Y]

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    Is it too early to start the wish list for Logos 10? LOL

    It's actually too late. They have been working on it for the past couple of years, concurrently with the incremental releases of 9.x. So it's probably too late to get new features into the spec.

    Depends on feature size/complexity for coding and related purposes.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    I hope with release of Logos 10 that it has the following... (a few of my favorite things... I am sure others have some additions to this list).

    1. In the mobile app.... the ability to insert heading in passage lists like in the desktop version.

    2. InstaVerse upgraded to work with Logos Bibles. If not, then ability to have command key to open, type in a passage and paste it automatically into anything that I am working with: excel, word, powerpoint... etc.

    3. Ability to have and edit and add bullets and numer items in slides in Sermon Builder.

    4. Factbook updated - to work with all books.

    5. Cross Reference - update to have more results.

    6. Concordance Tool - have a button to click on for search and highlight the word for the result of the search.

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    5. Cross Reference - update to have more results

    More results from where? Cross-references come from the cross-reference resources listed in the top portion (I suspect many would like to see the latest edition of the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge added).  Others, especially non-English users, may have other additions. The other sources of cross-references (the bottom portion) are the cross-references in Bibles.  If there are any Bibles whose cross-references do not appear, this should be reported to Kyle as a resource error.  It has been several years since I have seen this problem. Other kinds of relationships appear in the Important Passages section. When this was in beta testing, there was strong pushback on merging the two sections. Therefore, I don't understand what you want added to cross-references.  Please explain.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭

    I hope with release of Logos 10 that it has the following... (a few of my favorite things... I am sure others have some additions to this list).

    1. In the mobile app.... the ability to insert heading in passage lists like in the desktop version.

    2. InstaVerse upgraded to work with Logos Bibles. If not, then ability to have command key to open, type in a passage and paste it automatically into anything that I am working with: excel, word, powerpoint... etc.

    3. Ability to have and edit and add bullets and numer items in slides in Sermon Builder.

    4. Factbook updated - to work with all books.

    5. Cross Reference - update to have more results.

    6. Concordance Tool - have a button to click on for search and highlight the word for the result of the search.

    I'd be happy if they gave denominational tags we can use to search by. I do understand that some don't fit into neat categories. But I'd appreciate it if they at least gave us where they were when they wrote it and where they are currently in those cases.

    WIN 11 i7 9750H, RTX 2060, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD | iPad Air 3
    Verbum Max

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,110 ✭✭

    It's hardly ever mentioned, but I would like to see a more intuitive way to prioritize our books. The current system is clunky; everything is in one place, regardless of the type of book. It is also buried in the library. I would love to see a standalone tool.

    Collections could be improved too.

    I have been asking this for years, but I would like a way to delete, or even hide, tools I will never use. If I never see the word "Canvas" again in my copy of Logos, I would be overjoyed.

    iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.

  • Tony Walker
    Tony Walker Member Posts: 362 ✭✭

    It's hardly ever mentioned, but I would like to see a more intuitive way to prioritize our books. The current system is clunky; everything is in one place, regardless of the type of book. It is also buried in the library. I would love to see a standalone tool.

    Would love the option for resources to auto prioritize with bestcommenataries rankings. might not be perfect, but would be good starting point. 

    preachertony.com — appletech.tips — facebook.com/tonywalker23 — twitter.com/tonywalker23 — youtube.com/tonywalker23

  • Lew Worthington
    Lew Worthington Member Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭

    It's hardly ever mentioned, but I would like to see a more intuitive way to prioritize our books. The current system is clunky; everything is in one place, regardless of the type of book. It is also buried in the library. I would love to see a standalone tool.

    Having just walked my brother-in-law through the prioritization process, I am in hearty agreement. [:)]

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 3,087

    It's hardly ever mentioned, but I would like to see a more intuitive way to prioritize our books. The current system is clunky; everything is in one place, regardless of the type of book. It is also buried in the library. I would love to see a standalone tool.

    Libby, Libby, Libby, on the label, label, label. 

    I'm guessing Libby's standalone tool, I think by index (not type), led to the cement-mixer in Logos4, followed by umpteen threads on how to prioritize commentaries.

    In any event, I still use Libby's, primarily to see which of my resources have a specific index. It'd be nice to know, when buying, which have specific indices, but I doubt much benefit to most.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    More results from where? Cross-references come from the cross-reference resources listed in the top portion (I suspect many would like to see the latest edition of the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge added).  Others, especially non-English users, may have other additions. The other sources of cross-references (the bottom portion) are the cross-references in Bibles.  If there are any Bibles whose cross-references do not appear, this should be reported to Kyle as a resource error.  It has been several years since I have seen this problem. Other kinds of relationships appear in the Important Passages section. When this was in beta testing, there was strong pushback on merging the two sections. Therefore, I don't understand what you want added to cross-references.  Please explain.

    See screen shot.....  Maybe I'm missing something.... again???????

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    I hope with release of Logos 10 that it has the following... (a few of my favorite things... I am sure others have some additions to this list).

    1. In the mobile app.... the ability to insert heading in passage lists like in the desktop version.

    2. InstaVerse upgraded to work with Logos Bibles. If not, then ability to have command key to open, type in a passage and paste it automatically into anything that I am working with: excel, word, powerpoint... etc.

    3. Ability to have and edit and add bullets and numer items in slides in Sermon Builder.

    4. Factbook updated - to work with all books.

    5. Cross Reference - update to have more results.

    6. Concordance Tool - have a button to click on for search and highlight the word for the result of the search.

    7. Would like ability to expand and/or decrease sub topic of the Table of Contents on every book or page in Logos.

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe I'm missing something

    No, it's just that I didn't know you meant Thompson Chain references. Not having it and never using them, they didn't come to mind as something that belonged in cross-references.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    I hope with release of Logos 10 that it has the following... (a few of my favorite things... I am sure others have some additions to this list).

    1. In the mobile app.... the ability to insert heading in passage lists like in the desktop version.

    2. ZipScript upgraded to work with Logos Bibles. If not, then ability to have command key to open, type in a passage and paste it automatically into anything that I am working with: excel, word, powerpoint... etc. I first said InstaVerse... but I meant ZipScript.

    3. Ability to have and edit and add bullets and numer items in slides in Sermon Builder.

    4. Factbook updated - to work with all books.

    5. Cross Reference - update to have more results.

    6. Concordance Tool - have a button to click on for search and highlight the word for the result of the search.

    7. Would like ability to expand and/or decrease sub topic of the Table of Contents on every book or page in Logos.

    8. Please change Logos so that the first book that is opened (when no other books are opened) will open to the "LEFT" side of the screen instead of the right side of the screen.

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • skypeace
    skypeace Member Posts: 251

    5. Cross Reference - update to have more results

    More results from where? Cross-references come from the cross-reference resources listed in the top portion (I suspect many would like to see the latest edition of the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge added).  Others, especially non-English users, may have other additions. The other sources of cross-references (the bottom portion) are the cross-references in Bibles.  If there are any Bibles whose cross-references do not appear, this should be reported to Kyle as a resource error.  It has been several years since I have seen this problem. Other kinds of relationships appear in the Important Passages section. When this was in beta testing, there was strong pushback on merging the two sections. Therefore, I don't understand what you want added to cross-references.  Please explain.

    The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge is also available too. I have had it for awhile, it just costs as much as the hardcover version at $35 bucks. 
  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    8. Please change Logos so that the first book that is opened (when no other books are opened) will open to the "LEFT" side of the screen instead of the right side of the screen.

    https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-desktop-app/posts/open-first-resource-on-the-left-not-the-right

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge is also available too.

    Yes, but I was referring to the latest edition while being too lazy to look up the title see The Ultimate Cross-Reference Treasury - Faithlife Forums (logos.com)

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1. Is there a search field for cross-reference in the Information panel?

    2. If so, do you have an example of a cross-reference in Thompson that does not appear in the guide list?

    I don't have the resource so I can't check. With these two pieces of information, we know whether or not we need to bring the issue to Kyle.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • 8. Please change Logos so that the first book that is opened (when no other books are opened) will open to the "LEFT" side of the screen instead of the right side of the screen.

    Personally would like left to right language resources default reverting back to "LEFT" side (years ago) with right to left language resources defaulting to "RIGHT" side.

    A work around idea is dragging a shortcut of a Book (Bible) to open on the "LEFT" side.

    If not, then ability to have command key to open, type in a passage and paste it automatically into anything that I am working with: excel, word, powerpoint... etc. I

    Current macOS Monterey 12.2.1 allows "Replace with Passage (Logos)" & "Replace with Passage (Verbum)" text services to be assigned command key combinations, which can be used in most text editors (seem to remember Microsoft Word not liking Faithlife text services). 'Replace with Passage' text services need a space between book & chapter.verse numbering so typed php 4.4-9 on three lines below followed by using "Replace with Passage" from Services in Application menu.

    php 4.4-9

    "Replace with Passage (Logos)"

    Philippians 4:4–9 (1998:CJB)

    4 Rejoice in union with the Lord always! I will say it again: rejoice! 5 Let everyone see how reasonable and gentle you are. The Lord is near! 6 Don’t worry about anything; on the contrary, make your requests known to God by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving. 7 Then God’s shalom, passing all understanding, will keep your hearts and minds safe in union with the Messiah Yeshua. 8 In conclusion, brothers, focus your thoughts on what is true, noble, righteous, pure, lovable or admirable, on some virtue or on something praiseworthy. 9 Keep doing what you have learned and received from me, what you have heard and seen me doing; then the God who gives shalom will be with you.

    "Replace with Passage (Verbum)"

    Philippians 4:4–9 (LEB)

    Be Anxious for Nothing

    4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I say, rejoice. 5 Let your gentleness be made known to all people. The Lord is near. 6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7 And the peace of God that surpasses all understanding will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. 8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honorable, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are pleasing, whatever things are commendable, if there is any excellence of character and if anything praiseworthy, think about these things. 9 And the things which you have learned and received and heard about and seen in me, practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    SineNomine ----- I voted, thanks!

    You're welcome!

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara