Logos doesn't want to go to Psalm 19

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I'm running Logos 10.1.0.0041 on Mac OS Ventura. I can go to Psalm 18 or Psalm 20, but "Psalm 19" resolves to Psalm 9, although "Psalm 19:1" resolves properly.

Weird!

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John Fidel

Hi Greg,

This is posted in the desktop thread. Is it an issue with mobile or desktop? Is it just the LSB?

DMB

On LSB, there IS something strange about Psa 19 ... the title line. When I type Psa 19, it substitutes 'Psa 19:title' (which refers to the title line). But other chapters with title lines, don't do the substitution. I don't think it's supposed to be picking up the ':title' text in the reference box.

I tried NRSV (which also has similarly labeled title lines). No reference substitutions are made.

I'm also on Mac Ventura, L10.1.0.041. I'm guessing Greg, you have your titles turned off?

BTW, this thread needs to be moved to the new LSB sub-forum (joking).

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1237486#Comment_1237486

Here's what it is doing, as I was able to duplicate this on a Mac/Verbum. Typing Ps19, the first entry in the drop-down is Psalm 19:title -- and whether enter is hit, or that entry is selected, it goes to Ps 9. But if the second entry is selected, which is just Psalm 19, it goes to Ps 19. So something appears to be wrong with the entry Psalm 19:title - maybe it shouldn't be there at all, or maybe it's just pointing to the wrong tag or something.

Note: I tried some other Bibles, and they work fine - although for them, the first entry when Ps19 is typed in, is "Psalm 19:title-14" - whatever that means, that seems weird.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1237509#Comment_1237509

"Psalm 19:title-14" - whatever that means, that seems weird.

Not really ... verse 1 vs. title vs title as the starting point is simply a matter of the version you are using; some translations even fold the title into the first verse.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1237509#Comment_1237509

the first entry when Ps19 is typed in, is "Psalm 19:title-14" - whatever that means

It is a verse range for the Psalm i.e. from title to verse 14, where title precedes verse 1 and is part of the bible text in some bibles. Others list it as Ps 19:1-15.

Try a Bible search for "to the choirmaster" in the ESV to see what I mean.

Rosie Perera

This seems to only be a problem in LSB. I tried it and can replicate the problem in that resource on the Windows desktop version of Logos 10.1.

It seems to be a problem with the tagging or milestones. "Psalm 19:title" should not go to Psalm 9. IMHO it should also not be the default (first) thing in the dropdown if you type Ps 19 (Psalm 19 without anything after it should be listed first), but that's a different issue and not as big a deal, if it would go to the right place.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1237536#Comment_1237536

This is what I expect for translations that use the title notation:

Gregory Lawhorn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1237548#Comment_1237548

Hi Greg,

This is posted in the desktop thread. Is it an issue with mobile or desktop? Is it just the LSB?

Just the desktop; I don't use mobile, so I don't know about that.

On LSB, there IS something strange about Psa 19 ... the title line. When I type Psa 19, it substitutes 'Psa 19:title' (which refers to the title line). But other chapters with title lines, don't do the substitution. I don't think it's supposed to be picking up the ':title' text in the reference box.

I see that as well; I don't see that happening with other Psalms.

I'm also on Mac Ventura, L10.1.0.041. I'm guessing Greg, you have your titles turned off?

Well, I don't know how to turn the titles (or inscriptions) off in Psalms. I wouldn't do that since they are part of the original text. In fact, when we read the Psalms in church, I read the title and explain the terms.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1237592#Comment_1237592

I wouldn't do that since they are part of the original text.

Good catch; you can't in Logos. Though 'original text' is arguable (smiling).

Andrew Batishko

Thanks for the report. This has been passed on to the content production team.

Majo Diaz (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1237536#Comment_1237536

It seems to be a problem with the tagging or milestones. "Psalm 19:title" should not go to Psalm 9.

Hi everybody,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. As Rosie mentions above, this was a bug in the milestones. This has been fixed and you'll see an update in the next week.

Thank you!

Gregory Lawhorn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1237874#Comment_1237874

Hi everybody,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. As Rosie mentions above, this was a bug in the milestones. This has been fixed and you'll see an update in the next week.

Thank you!

That'll do - thanks!