Need help making a collection of all Greek Bibles (entire Gk bibles only, not subsets or fragments)

Is there any way to whittle this collection down to just entire Gk Bibles, without having to visually go through the whole list, look for ones that I know or surmise to be entire bibles, drag them into the "Plus these resources" section, and then eliminate the rule?

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MJ. Smith

Most LXX are multivolume to include alternative texts. I have found no reasonable rule although chunks can be screened out based on series.

Wolfgang Schneider

As your screenshot indicates, there are Greek LXX Old Testament editions and there are NT editions in Greek. Are there even complete (that is, entire in one volume OT & NT) Greek Bibles available in Logos format?

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243430#Comment_1243430

As your screenshot indicates, there are Greek LXX Old Testament editions and there are NT editions in Greek. Are there even complete (that is, entire in one volume OT & NT) Greek Bibles available in Logos format?

I meant complete Greek NT. That's what I think of as the "Greek Bible" in parallel with the "Hebrew Bible" which is just the NT. Maybe my nomenclature is off. (Yes, I know the LXX exists too, but it's a translation of the Hebrew Bible into Greek. That's not what I want to include in my collection.)

NB.Mick

Is there any way to whittle this collection down to just entire Gk Bibles, without having to visually go through the whole list, look for ones that I know or surmise to be entire bibles, drag them into the "Plus these resources" section, and then eliminate the rule?

Maybe if you do this work, make it future-proof by using tags. There come up some more bible text editions sometimes. I have made a mytag:real-bible for that (not only for Greek, but actually started when I was very annoyed about all the "Pxyz from The Text of the New Testament"). There are edge cases such as the codexes (codices?), the Faithlife-enhanced versions of e.g. SBL and such.

I tried to have a complete list at https://ref.ly/logos4/ReadingLists?list=Greek+Bible+Text+Resources+in+Logos!NB.Mick!https%3a%2f%2ftopics.logos.com%2fGreek_Bible_Text_Resources_in_Logos!0 not that that helps much in building such a collection.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243435#Comment_1243435

Is there any way to whittle this collection down to just entire Gk Bibles, without having to visually go through the whole list, look for ones that I know or surmise to be entire bibles, drag them into the "Plus these resources" section, and then eliminate the rule?

Maybe if you do this work, make it future-proof by using tags. There come up some more bible text editions sometimes. I have made a mytag:real-bible for that (not only for Greek, but actually started when I was very annoyed about all the "Pxyz from The Text of the New Testament"). There are edge cases such as the codexes (codices?), the Faithlife-enhanced versions of e.g. SBL and such.

I tried to have a complete list at https://ref.ly/logos4/ReadingLists?list=Greek+Bible+Text+Resources+in+Logos!NB.Mick!https%3a%2f%2ftopics.logos.com%2fGreek_Bible_Text_Resources_in_Logos!0 not that that helps much in building such a collection.

Oh yes, thanks for that reminder. I have a "realbible" tag too, which I must have gotten the idea for from you long ago. I had not applied it to many bibles yet, but I suppose I could.

However that's still not future-proof, because if they add new bible text editions, those won't have the tag, so they won't be automatically included.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243436#Comment_1243436

However that's still not future-proof, because if they add new bible text editions, those won't have the tag, so they won't be automatically included.

Fair point. I try to tag at least lexicons (index) and bible commentaries (bible book), and real bibles as well (RI, working with Schwandt's Audio NT etc). And I tag all my resources with at least one tag, so I can see those that came since I did that the last time.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243439#Comment_1243439

And I tag all my resources with at least one tag, so I can see those that came since I did that the last time.

I had been doing that too, but I've gotten so far behind on my tagging, I pretty much gave up on it. I have 9416 resources with no tags at all, out of a library of 28,857 resources.

Kiyah

Try this:

type:bible lang:greek subject:Bible.N.T.--Greek -subject:manuscript

That seemed to work for my library.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243536#Comment_1243536

Try this:

type:bible lang:greek subject:Bible.N.T.--Greek -subject:manuscript

That seemed to work for my library.

My slightly shorter variant is type:Bible subject:N.T.-Greek

I had not found it necessary to specify language (subject:N.T.-English refer to NT Bibles in English), and manuscripts like TENTGM are not included.

I do exclude specific variants via tags for TR, Clausal/Syntactic or those without a morphology.

Kiyah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243550#Comment_1243550

Try this:

type:bible lang:greek subject:Bible.N.T.--Greek -subject:manuscript

That seemed to work for my library.

My slightly shorter variant is type:Bible subject:N.T.-Greek

I had not found it necessary to specify language (subject:N.T.-English refer to NT Bibles in English), and manuscripts like TENTGM are not included.

I do exclude specific variants via tags for TR, Clausal/Syntactic or those without a morphology.

My library included Codex Bezae and Codex Sinaiticus which were either not the complete NT (Bezae) or more than just the NT (Sinaiticus) so I had to exclude those via the manuscript exclusion. But you're right, I didn't need the language with the subject. The Lexham Clausal Outlines bible should definitely be excluded because it screws up the comparisons in the text comparison tool for some reason. I haven't had a problem with the Syntactic bibles bothering anything.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243551#Comment_1243551

My library included Codex Bezae and Codex Sinaiticus which were either not the complete NT (Bezae) or more than just the NT (Sinaiticus) so I had to exclude those via the manuscript exclusion.

Could you show their Subject metadata in Library?

The Lexham Clausal Outlines bible should definitely be excluded because it screws up the comparisons in the text comparison tool for some reason. I haven't had a problem with the Syntactic bibles bothering anything.

It is a personal choice as I don't like their format for reading/searching.

Kiyah

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243556#Comment_1243556

Could you show their Subject metadata in Library?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1243557#Comment_1243557

Could you show their Subject metadata in Library?

It is inconsistent with TENTGM, but it could be the other way around. I might bring it up with Kyle.