If I search for a phrase not the most hit are on top. How do I do that?
Are you using a Books Search? If so, select the Book display option and sort by Count
If you are using a different type of search, please provide a few more details of exactly what you are doing.
Well if I search for example the phrase: A boy is eating an apple in the house. I want to have the sentence at top with the most hits for example: A boy is eating an apple in the room, A girl is eating an apple in the house, A boy is eating an apple, A boy is eating a banana in the house.
The count option doesn't work for me.
Your results are grouped by the Book. Try "Group by Library" (right above the search results).
I'm sorry but I don't understand:
If you search explicitly for the phrase A boy is eating an apple in the house (by enclosing it in quotation marks) you will only find occurrences of that specific phrase, not where - for example - A girl is eating an apple in the house or even A boy is eating an apple
And if you omit the quotation marks, you will get hits for all places where any of the words are present but may not be saying anything about a boy eating an apple.
Could you explain this a bit more please? Ideally with a screenshot showing the search you are using and the results you are getting (use the paperclip icon in the forum editor)
Well I want to search for a sentence eventhough I maybe make a mistake. So if I search for the phrase A boy is eating an apple in the house but the sentence was actually A girl is eating an apple in the house I want that still that sentence is getting at the top, because it get the most hits with the exeption of the word boy.
In this picture the hits are really rondom. The most hits is not getting at the top.
So if I search for the phrase A boy is eating an apple in the house but the sentence was actually A girl is eating an apple in the house I want that still that sentence is getting at the top, because it get the most hits with the exeption of the word boy.
Logos searches don't work in this way. (Actually you can get something like this in a Bible Search using the Fuzzy view but it doesn't apply to a Books Search)
Your search is looking for all articles that contain all of the words you specify whether or not they appear in the same sentence or in relation to each other. And it won't find any articles that contain the word girl instead of boy because that isn't one of your search terms.
The best way I can think of to do this is to use the BEFORE construct to allow search terms to be "skipped".
In the screenshot below, I have a search on the left "The man is at home" (I don't get any results for your example search term) which shows this appears 9 times in my library. On the word I am splitting the search phrase up to start with the word The and then to search for is at home occuring 2 words after the The - in other words, allowing a word in between. As you can see, this returns a much wider set of results. So the same approach would find cases where a girl - as opposed to a boy - was eating an apple but wouldn't find the case where a banana was being eaten
Overall, I don't think Logos is structured to really support the type of search you are looking for.
Looking at desired results shows some commonality so a Books Search suggestion is:
surface:eat NEAR (apple OR banana)
Result ordering for Library downloaded books is puzzling.
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Yep. This has been a mystery (but not one of the apostle Paul's) in the Logos search engine logic. Finding stuff, it's good at. Presenting results, very poor. I think they improved the search sorting on Logos.com, but not here.
I empathize with Marc, on this thread. Aint a gonna get fixed.
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Well I want to search for a sentence eventhough I maybe make a mistake. So if I search for the phrase A boy is eating an apple in the house but the sentence was actually A girl is eating an apple in the house I want that still that sentence is getting at the top, because it get the most hits with the exeption of the word boy. In this picture the hits are really rondom. The most hits is not getting at the top.
You can help things by putting your search phrase in quotes:
"A boy is eating an apple in the house"
But Logos is not going to expand "boy" to "girl" or "house" to "shop."
So you can create smaller sections:
"A boy" AND eating AND "in the house"
Makes sure that "a boy" and "in the house" are included along with the word "eating."
I think what he is trying to get across, is that the search engine should up-rank partial matches for phrases (which is what search engines normally do, including Logos.com I think).
The problem, not so obvious (and Graham alludes to) is the algorithm looks at 'articles' or paragraphs. Then, looks at occurances within the article ... no sentences, phrases etc affecting the computation.
Adding quotes prevents the partial match, and adding more arguments only demonstrates the naivity of the search algorithm. My guess is the index design back in 2008 and the promise for speed drives the intuitive confusion.
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