Brand new search engine ready to be tested
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My Books:
1. Topic: the "Passion Translation"
Came up with many irrelevant topics as well the expected.
Came up with many topics from "Dicionario Biblico LExham" - which I don't own.
Came up with "the Creeds of Christendom" - which is Hidden.
2. Topic: "Passion Translation"
Came up with topics from this bible only (OK)
3. Topic: Problems with the Passion Translation
Focused on the first word "Problems" (especially so with All Books).
Dave
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DMB said:
my impression is Luther was little changed from Catholic
Talk to some "high-Lutherans" who hoped for equal treatment to the "high-Anglicans" who got their own rite [:#] You'll find plenty of evidence your impression is correct.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Very nice and intuitive for quick searches. I've grown a little disillusioned lately with the factbook, especially when trying to use it as a jumping off place to dig further into my library. Just did a couple of quick searches for "zwingli, lord's supper" and "the interior castle" and was quickly directed to resources in my library that seem like they would be helpful to consult. I like that this is not intended to replace, but to supplement, the syntax-driven search engine.
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Thanks for all the feedback on this thread. It’s been extremely helpful in crystallising our thinking. We’re going to continue to invest a significant amount of development effort to improving this experimental search with a view to better integrating it into users’ workflows. To do that, we need to take this experimental search down, probably for a couple of months.
Thanks again for all the feedback!
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
Thanks for all the feedback on this thread. It’s been extremely helpful in crystallising our thinking. We’re going to continue to invest a significant amount of development effort to improving this experimental search with a view to better integrating it into users’ workflows. To do that, we need to take this experimental search down, probably for a couple of months.
Thanks again for all the feedback!
Thanks for letting us play with it for a while. I hope it comes back integrated into Logos Desktop in the not-too-distant future. [:)]
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Mark, Thanks again. Already looking forward to this thread opening back up and seeing how Logos integrates all new features with thoughts from this thread!!
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
we need to take this experimental search down, probably for a couple of months.
[:'(] [:'(]
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Armin said:Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
we need to take this experimental search down, probably for a couple of months.
Of course, when I started using it for the first time like 3 days ago.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
Thanks for all the feedback on this thread. It’s been extremely helpful in crystallising our thinking. We’re going to continue to invest a significant amount of development effort to improving this experimental search with a view to better integrating it into users’ workflows. To do that, we need to take this experimental search down, probably for a couple of months.
Thanks again for all the feedback!
Aw man, I wanted to use it today. [:(] Thanks for all of your hard work on developing this tool.
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Google has created NotebookLM which allows you to ask questions of more than one resource at a time if you wish. With Notebook LM it can only answer questions found in the documents downloaded not on the internet. That type of capability would be an incredible resource within Logos.
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Welcome Daniel,
Daniel Glavey said:Google has created NotebookLM which allows you to ask questions of more than one resource at a time if you wish. With Notebook LM it can only answer questions found in the documents downloaded not on the internet. That type of capability would be an incredible resource within Logos.
This type of Search facility has been tested just recently and may be made available in the version 32 of Logos just released. One "Smart" search will use resources you don't own and another uses your books or a collection.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
We've been working on a brand-new search engine that doesn't require special syntax to answer your queries. It's very experimental at this stage, but we'd love your feedback.
We're not yet ready to include the search engine in the desktop app, but you can access it on web here: https://beta.app.logos.com/search?kind=semantic
We'd love you to run real questions/queries there and use the thumbs-up/thumbs-down icons in the results to let us know how well the engine has answered your query.
Then come back to this thread and let us know your overall impressions.
To be clear, we don't intend to replace our existing search engine with all its advanced syntax. That won't be going away. And it's designed for searching your books, not the Bible. But we hope it will have a place in making search even simpler.
I understand that current search operators are very good for exact searches. I can't imagine using Logos without them. With the improvements brought in Logos 10, it has become more practical.
But I believe that the "Help" manual should be more explanatory and more disseminated among users. There could be links to the help manual on the search page from where users could go straight to the part of the manual (Help) that explains the use of that operator.
In the case of Help ou "Ajuda" in Portuguese, it is not fully translated. There are parts in English mixed with Portuguese. Among the friends I know and talk to, none have accessed the "Help" (Ajuda) file.
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"... And do not be grieved, for the joy of the LORD is your strength." (Ne 8.10)
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Anderson JF Abreu said:
There could be links to the help manual on the search page
There are links to the help file from a blank search panel
Anderson JF Abreu said:that explains the use of that operator.
There are examples of these in the search helps (shown in the bottom of my screenshot)
What additional links would be helpful?
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Graham Criddle said:Anderson JF Abreu said:
There could be links to the help manual on the search page
There are links to the help file from a blank search panel
Anderson JF Abreu said:
that explains the use of that operator.
There are examples of these in the search helps (shown in the bottom of my screenshot)
What additional links would be helpful?
Sorry, I didn't express myself correctly. I know there is a mention and link on the search page. I wanted to say that there should be a link next to each example of using operators on that page and that these links would take directly to the place where it is explained.
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"... And do not be grieved, for the joy of the LORD is your strength." (Ne 8.10)
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Anderson JF Abreu said:
I wanted to say that there should be a link next to each example of using operators on that page and that these links would take directly to the place where it is explained.
Thank you - that clarifies it for me.
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The tool Daniel mentions is a great companion to Logos and well worth a look. It should not be thought of as a "search" tool, I suggest, as it is broader in use than that. A few descriptive words and phrases from the Google Research announcement video are of use here: "conversational learning," "conceptual questions," "curate and create," "mixed use, single surface," "tools for thought." They (Google) are improving NotebookLM every week are so in slight ways. The tool still needs a way for users to markup the sources as to what they find important, then engage with the full source material against that marked text. Think of sources, for example, as a collection of commentary passages for your pericope. Its a very interesting development of total use to the Logos community.
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