As MS Copilot is coming, other sources raise safety concerns. One issue would be that there will be ongoing “screenshots” of your PC (which could facilitate hacking into your system by simply read passwords).
What’s Logos’ take on this?
(which could facilitate hacking into your system by simply read passwords).
Having a grandson who works at Microsoft on system security, I take exception to the suggestion that Microsoft is so stupid as to breach password protection in such a basic manner. [If you want military grade security you will have to see my nephew. You should hear them fight regarding the priority of potential risks. [8-|]]
Having a grandson who works at Microsoft on system security, I take exception to the suggestion
Calm down MJ and don't act like it's a personal attack, it's a legitimate question with real concerns if you have been reading any on the topic lately. I had some of the same thoughts and it goes beyond just passwords. Just a few of the news items that I noticed:
Microsoft Copilot Plus hands-on: Does it need a Recall?
Windows AI feature that screenshots everything labeled a security 'disaster'
Researcher says Microsoft's Windows Recall has security gaps "you can fly a plane through"
Just a few of the news items that I noticed:
As my grandson's job is basically to hack Microsoft products (he once used his home computer by accident and set off alarms that MS itself was hacked), the articles say nothing I haven't heard before or assume likely true until actual release. Given how few of us need the function, the obvious solution is don't use the function.
This is a day I'd have trouble being more chill ... but it's not particularly Logos related and between politics and subscriptions, I truly need a break from fearmongering. I'm high on the Christian virtue of equanimity which, judging from the forums, is not a universally recognized Christian value.
I take exception to the suggestion
judging from the forums, is not a universally recognized Christian value.
Maybe when things are getting under your skin a little too much that you feel like firing back, you could maintain a high sense of equanimity by just turning off the computer for the evening. Just a thought.
you could maintain a high sense of equanimity by just turning off the computer for the evening. Just a thought.
I do, in fact, take short breaks of a few days from the forums when I have "had it". However, in this case you are reading much more into my post than I intended. I always use
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The connotation of "to take exception to" lands somewhere between a strong and mild objection. It leans more towards the milder side.
Here's the breakdown:
So, it's stronger than a simple "I disagree," but not as strong as "That's completely outrageous!"
Here are some examples to illustrate the range:
If you want to convey a very strong objection, you might use a different phrase, like "I vehemently disagree" or "That's absolutely unacceptable."
However, in this case you are reading much more into my post than I intended.
I take exception to your assumption about how much I read into your posts 😉
That's the way it is with the written word in the eyes of the reader, huh. Nobody knows if strong language was written with tongue in cheek, or a smile vs. a glare. It stands on its own.
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Doesn't Copilot only save passwords if they are shown on the screen? Logos masks passwords, like almost every other app. So I don't see what security concern there would be regarding Logos.
As my grandson's job is basically to hack Microsoft products (he once used his home computer by accident and set off alarms that MS itself was hacked), [...]
I am sure your grandson does a great job. It's only the devs at Microsoft would need to listen to him (or the management) and probably would need to have a lot of more people like your grandson. Microsoft has a horrible security track record and even Satya Nadella had to reassure the shareholders in a recent earnings call that they want to improve security ( https://www.geekwire.com/2024/haunted-by-repeated-breaches-microsoft-is-putting-security-above-all-else-vows-ceo-satya-nadella/ ) - Because of the fatal breaches and security holes only in the last weeks and months. They brutally failed at essential things in the cloud and of course in the Windows operating system. Just ask Tavis Ormandy one of the best hackers out there can attest to that. Windows Server and Active Directory and Exchange used in most companies and institutions around the world is the primary reason why they all get hacked and all their files encrypted. I am sorry but Microsoft is one of the worst examples of cyber security. No wonder they are pushing Linux (even integrate it in Windows) and use a lot of Linux Servers in their own cloud.If you add up all the security nightmares Microsoft created over the years (and established as a standard) this would be a very long list.
As MS Copilot is coming, other sources raise safety concerns. One issue would be that there will be ongoing “screenshots” of your PC (which could facilitate hacking into your system by simply read passwords). What’s Logos’ take on this?
Du meinst wohl MS Recall https://www.heise.de/news/Erste-Erfahrungen-mit-Recall-9750138.html nicht Copilot per se, wenn ich deine Frage am Anfang richtig verstanden habe.
For those who fear that MS is scraping your personal data, or are afraid that future hacks will expose it, I recommend the following:
1. Stop using MS OneDrive. Use another, non-MS cloud service like pCloud which places a premium on your privacy.
2. Stop using MS programs like Outlook, Office, CoPilot, etc. Lots of good alternatives.
3. Install and use DoNotSpy11. If you are not familiar with this privacy/security program, check out the YouTube videos at the link. I fully expect DNS11 to disable the Recall feature in Windows if/when it arrives in the Windows 11 24H2 release.
Is this similar to XP-Antispy I used 20 years ago? It was an issue then, and I guess it has not been better since then. If you read the condition on the new MS Outlook, you get goosebumps, but on the negative sort.
Is this similar to XP-Antispy I used 20 years ago?
I do not know but I suspect it is similar. DNS11 is actively supported and has about 165 different items that can be blocked or disabled. Under the "Advertising" category, there are 14 items that can be disabled. Under "Apps", there are 32. Under "Defender", 3. Under "Privacy", 64 including the disabling of CoPilot, OneDrive, and Telemetry. Under "Search", 5. Under "Start", 5. Under "Updates", 6. Under "Edge", 34.
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BTW, for those who are interested, pCloud may be obtained either as a subscription or as a one-time purchase. There is, I believe, a small free version, too.
I quit the Microsoft upgrade wagon train when they first began sneaking telemetry into Windows 7. It has been entertaining to watch all the Windows updates as users react to each stupid move Microsoft has made since then.
Not only have they ruined Windows, the business model switched from selling software to collecting and selling your data. It is obviously a profitable model for google. Microsoft began giving Windows away free. And now they are beginning to display advertising in the system itself.
Anyone who believes Microsoft systems are secure certainly has not been paying attention over the years.
Apple is not perfect, but is the only real choice in the market now.
First off, it's not an issue with Microsoft CoPilot (which is Microsoft's AI agent, but it is also being used to name all products and services using their new AI technology) ... the issue you describe in your post (and many of the replies) is with a feature of the new Microsoft CoPilot+ PCs which is called Recall.
At the time of writing this post, Recall has not been released AND because of the many concerns about this feature, Microsoft has gone back to address the concerns.
I just powered on my new Microsoft Laptop 7 which is one of the new CoPilot+ PCs. During the setup, it is stated at Recall will be coming soon. I here sometime in the Fall.
MY question is ... will (and when) Logos start providing a Windows ARM version of the desktop app (like they had to do with the MacOS version when Apple went ARM a few years ago.
I just powered on my new Microsoft Laptop 7 which is one of the new CoPilot+ PCs.
How well does Logos run on Microsoft Surface Laptop 7th Edition?
