Category Tabs Don't Seem Logical To Me

Doc B
Doc B Member Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭

It seems illogical that I would click the 'Home' tab to see the latest forum posts; clicking the more logical 'Forums' tab shows none of the sort.

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  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    I have yet to figure out how to navigate the new site. So far I have not been active in reading or replying because the new site has not made sense to me. I know there will be a learning curve. I just wish I could see the newest 50 posts on the home page…

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    This page might be what you are looking for:

    https://community.logos.com/discussions?sort=-dateLastComment

    You can get there from the "Discussions" link on the right side of the Home Page, but I've also change the sorting to match what you would expect to see from the old forums.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • EastTN
    EastTN Member Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭

    I'm also finding it difficult to navigate. This strikes me as weird, because it is very literally the first discussion forum I've participated in that has been difficult to find my way around. They're usually very intuitive to navigate.

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member, MVP Posts: 1,604
    edited November 2024

    @Jason Stone (Logos) I must agree that these forums are confusing. What is the home page even showing? Most recently created posts? Or most recently commented on posts? The previous forums showed most recent comments. But here one has no idea. It doesn't even show who commented last or the time that the comment/post was made. It's a guessing game, and even though I think I can figure things out, I'm still left hoping I guessed right.

    Also, the difference between bold (unread) and not bold (read) is minimal. I would love for there to be more contrast. Often I am triple checking, because I can't see from the title whether I have already read it or not.

  • Donovan R. Palmer
    Donovan R. Palmer Member, MVP Posts: 2,886

    It doesn't even show who commented last or the time that the comment/post was made.

    This has been my biggest adjustment. Seeing this information helped me determine if I wanted to open the thread.

    Also, the difference between bold (unread) and not bold (read) is minimal. I would love for there to be more contrast. Often I am triple checking, because I can't see from the title whether I have already read it or not.

    I agree. I have adapted, but a small adjustment on contrast would not go amiss.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,245

    This page might be what you are looking for: 

    https://community.logos.com/discussions?sort=-dateLastComment

    You can get there from the "Discussions" link on the right side of the Home Page, but I've also change the sorting to match what you would expect to see from the old forums.

    Hi @Andrew Batishko - this looks like a really useful tab but I don’t see it on the right of the home page. Can you point me to it?

    Thanks, Graham

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2024

    I'm guessing 'Recent Posts'. But this whole thing is strange. That link does pull up the recent posts and all languages (like the old forum). My other attempts at 'old forum' matching got only english posts.

    Also the quick links varies by page. They sort of come and go. Jason got the Combo-Breaker Badge! I'm sure he's excited (smiling).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    this looks like a really useful tab but I don’t see it on the right of the home page. Can you point me to it?

    My guess is that your window is not wide enough to see the right sidebar. It goes away below a certain width. From the community home page, for me it lists announcements, a "New Post" button, Quick Links, Popular Tags, and a Weekly Leaderboard.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,245

    this is what I see

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    Scrollbars don't seem to be visible for you. Does the right area scroll up? It seems that most of the Quick Links list is visible for you (Recent Posts, Participated, My Posts, etc).

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,245

    Scrollbars don't seem to be visible for you. Does the right area scroll up?

    Yes it does, and scrollbars appear when I am scrolling

    It seems that most of the Quick Links list is visible for you (Recent Posts, Participated, My Posts, etc).

    Yes, which is why it seems strange I can't see all of them

  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,054

    This is a helpful dialogue. In our testing, our users found it simplest to have one way to get to the forum of choice.

    As an example (and alluded to above), a user may want to see only English posts about Logos and Verbum.

    That path would look something like the following:

    1. Navigate to the main menu and select "Forums"
    2. Select "English" from the list of forum categories under Logos and Verbum
    3. A user lands on the English Forum for Logos and Verbum — recent, new posts

    Knowing that users are coming to the community for any number of products and needs, we designed the main menu navigation to direct the flow and decision making. The home page is nothing more than means to leapfrog for more popular categories (i.e., Resource Requests).

    We are of course completely open to feedback on this. Thank you so much!

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,245

    Thanks @Jason Stone (Logos)

    Knowing that users are coming to the community for any number of products and needs, we designed the main menu navigation to direct the flow and decision making. The home page is nothing more than means to leapfrog for more popular categories (i.e., Resource Requests).

    Totally understand.

    I think the thing I am confused about at the moment - and it's not a big deal - is that @Andrew Batishko can see a Discussions link from the home page and I can't!

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    I think the thing I am confused about at the moment - and it's not a big deal - is that @Andrew Batishko can see a Discussions link from the home page and I can't!

    I don't have a Discussions link on my home page. I believe it's the Recent Posts link that you want.

    I don't know if this got renamed, or if it's named something different in the sidebars on one of the other pages.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,054

    /discussions is "Recent Posts" — if you're seeing "Recent Posts" in your sidebar Quicklinks then you are in the right place.

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member, MVP Posts: 1,604
    edited November 2024

    The sidebars seem to be in the process of being frequently modified. As I understand it, the word "Discussions" is being done away with and replaced by "Posts", which is now differentiated from "Comments". @Jason Stone (Logos) "Discussions" is still present here:

  • Jason Stone (Logos)
    Jason Stone (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,054

    the word "Discussions" is being done away with and replaced by "Posts", which is now differentiated from "Comments".

    I didn't want to get into too much detail here, as to avoid confusing anybody. Essentially, we had a discovery during beta testing that Vanilla uses "Discussion" broadly and interchangeably with "Post." We later clarified that there are four "post types" — Question, Idea, Discussion, and Poll.

    That said, there may be remnants of "Discussion" in things like hyperlinks or quick links.

    Sr. Community Manager at Logos.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,245

    I don't have a Discussions link on my home page. I believe it's the Recent Posts link that you want.

    /discussions is "Recent Posts" — if you're seeing "Recent Posts" in your sidebar Quicklinks then you are in the right place.

    Thanks @Andrew Batishko and @Jason Stone (Logos) - that clarifies things for me