The problems with promoting Ai generated Bible teaching

That's a bit different. It's essentially the low-tech equivalent of playing a pre-recorded sermon. That makes perfect sense if you don't have a qualified preacher available. But going the other way, I'd have a problem if our congregation's minister lip-synced to an audio recording of someone else's sermon.

"Western and modern turn"?

Please define what you mean and how it relates to this discussion.

You can thank the "collective wisdom of men" for the fact that you don't have to learn Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek to read your bible.

Churches will not need to send missionaries to foreign lands. They can send robot pastors

@Mark Allison

You can thank the "collective wisdom of men" for the fact that you don't have to learn Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek to read your bible.

Thanks Mark for bringing up the issue of translation. Maybe it is because of my own lack of understanding, but I have yet to see how AI is going to help people learn and study original language languages.

I can easily picture how that AI could be programmed to translate from original languages into another target language. But wouldn’t that require training the AI in original language literature ? and I’m sure none of the big mainstream corporate companies that are investing in AI have any interest in Bible study or translation.

this question also leads to another question of mine, which is how is Lagos max going to help people learn and to study original languages using AI?

I have asked this question before here on the forums and never got much of a response. And I’m not seeing any real enlightenment on the part of Logos as to how AI might be used in the area of original languages. They already have a translator and I suppose that the translation feature could be improved using AI.

But how could AI be used to help students of original than the traditional methods of memorization and practice?

There is some valid insight here - I wonder how many of said semi-literate ministers have access to consistent, stable internet access to benefit from any AI assistance…. As taking for granted stable, consistent access to the web could also be viewed in the modern/Western (or at least developed) worldview…

Thanks Frank! No matter what I do, I can't make my links hyperlinkable! I add a space after, but that doesn't help.

No. I'm using Safari on a Mac. Perhaps that's the reason?

Yes, AI is an excellent tool for Bible translation. I am personally using it for that exact reason to translate the LXX.

Septuaginta, hg. v. Alfred Rahlfs, zweite, verbesserte Auflage, hg. v. Robert Hanhart, © 2006 Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft, Stuttgart

But it is important that the translation is not accepted at face value. It helps to have a working knowledge of Greek too if doing it from a Greek translation. And to check everything against the 4 available translations in English, if doing an English translation, which I am. I think the Gospel Coalition article makes a lot of good points about this:

"That draft can then be used by translators to complete a final translation. In other words, previously translated portions of Scripture are used by AI to generate drafts of other portions of Scripture that are then checked and developed by translation teams."

That is my approach. I am acquainted with some of the folks at Seed Company and they are doing this too out in the field for other languages. AI in and of itself is neither evil nor good. The person using it determines how AI will be used. Just like guns do not kill people, people kill people with guns.

Once AI is in full control of the antichrist, that will be a different story. It will be evil then, and possibly before then.

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/ai-bible-translation/

I like your humor.

I think you missed the point … your discussion was pretty much all positive, and then at the end, disaster. How you framed your point.

But I agree, maybe from a differing perspecitve. Even 25 years back, we used neural nets in business analysis and projections. And in presentations, our software had to be 'translated' into human terms for fellow executives. They were well educated, etc, but the machine could accomodate far more factors/influences than the human mind normally can.

And therein lies the problem … the confidence of the human mind, versus the power of silicon. Humans can't not rely on their minds. I've not seen much theological discussion on that … the presumption that the conscious struggling 'mind' is the basis for judgment.

Logos AI, alternatively, delivers 'knowledge' … the old gnostic solution. For old Logosians, that was George's point.

I am still amazed when I see people can't see what is plainly happening in the here and now in this world and how plain it has already been described in the Bible. I know that our, by this I mean the Western Church, is drunk on this world, and drunk on the poison that is in that golden cup that is in the whore's hand that sits on the beast. I was reading 2Peter chapter 2 this morning and more than once the phrase "there will be false", "Many will", "the way of truth will be", "will exploit" and phrases like this over and over in that chapter. This is just a sample of what is in 2 Peter chapter 2. The fact that this is just the way things are and these things are going to be progressively getting worse at an accelerated pace in my generation, does not give me any happiness knowing this even though we are told that this is the reality of the age we live in. I just wish people could see what is happening in the unseen realm more clearly. It is just not possible when we are drinking from that whore's cup and are drunk.