RETHINK the 100 book download limit!!!

Matt Doebler · 2025-01-17T15:08:44+00:00

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My iPad Pro has my entire library (5000) downloaded and the app runs just fine. The reason I download my entire library is that my iPad is WiFi only and I want to be able to access my resources on the go even when I don’t have WiFi.

Now Logos releases an “upgrade” that limits resource downloads to 100 purportedly to make app more efficient. This is NOT a welcome “upgrade” and will severely restrict my ability to use the mobile app going forward. I purchased an iPad that could handle the large download for this exact purpose. The option to download resources I OWN should always that of the USER.

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DMB

Well, that's interesting!

Robert Kelbe

I wholeheartedly agree (although, you are still able to download your whole library, it just makes it much, much more inconvenient, as you have to download 100 resources 50 times). Thankfully you only have to do it once every time you get a new device, so I'm not as concerned. I pushed to keep the option to download all for the Beta cycle for Logos 10, and they did, and I was grateful. Now they took it away again…

Graham Criddle

Just to clarify - this limit is about downloading no more than 100 resources at a time.

It is not about limiting how many resources can be downloaded.

John Kaess

https://community.logos.com/discussion/245442/rethink-the-100-book-download-limit

I agree 100%. I have over 5,000 resources and have been downloading 100% of them to my iPad Pro for many years without an issue of any kind.

Matt Doebler

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1354045#Comment_1354045

Thanks for the clarification. Good to know I can still download my entire library, but Logos should not eliminate the “download all” option for those of us who have larger libraries.

Just a suggestion…what about a dialogue box that asks something like “Are you sure you want to download all? Doing so may affect performance.”

John Kaess

With this change, I would have to do more than 50 download sessions to get all my resources onto my iPad. This is a horrendously short sited change. What harm is there to allowing an option to download 100 or download all, with a warning that downloading all may impact performance depending on your device's memory and internet connection?

Just removing the ability to do something we've been able to do for many years seems like an over reaction, when a simple warning and choice would be a much better solution.

Christopher Randall

I hope that by the time I get a new device, this is reverted to how it used to be. I've never had an issue with app performance.

Fr Adalbert F. Imperial, OCD

Yes, please do not limit the download to 100 resources at a time. I too would like to have access to all my resources especially when am on the go.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1354039#Comment_1354039

Watching the mobile team over the years, it looks like their design philosophy remains the same … an add-on to the desktop. Still can't do tags/collections independently. I'd have thought, given the power of the mobile devices, that idea would have changed.

It is an odd popup design change … leaving the desktop download-all unaltered (so far). And it may be, mobile is about as far as it's going to go … server delivery excepted. I keep it on my iPhone just to watch it.

Christopher Randall

Should we create feedback so people can vote on this or are the multiple threads on this sufficient?

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1356395#Comment_1356395

I think voting. Mobile isn't too sensitive to comments.

Yasmin Stephen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1356396#Comment_1356396

And search first to see if a feedback suggestion isn't already available.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1356397#Comment_1356397

I'm not questioning the wisdom of checking first. So, I decided to see how hard would that be?

I figured, the best approach would be to go to the Feedback forum, and then look for a search icon. None I could see.
I did see the big-boy search icon (top of page). I tried that. But it didn't allow me to narrow down to feedback. Also it looks like it went back into the eons of forum-time (have to qualify, etc).

I gave up. I admit I'm an obvious dummy; speak 3 languages, read 5, 2 degrees, years programming in 5 languages, CPA, corporate executive, etc). But I'm sure there's a way!

Yasmin Stephen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1356406#Comment_1356406

I've run into the same issues with searching for feedback posts but I thought it was just me.

Kevin A. Purcell

This limit feels like a limit to keep their servers from getting hit too hard. Can't image that this really would affect the efficience of the app if it's not a total download limit but only a per download limit.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1356436#Comment_1356436

Quite understandable … the new subscription feels 'just right' for mobile'ers and they've gone crazy buying books. Smiling.

John Kaess

I'm still very very frustrated by this. I'm working on Psalms. I did a search on my Psalms resources in the mobile App Library and there are 262. There is no way that I can find after doing that search to only select 100 of those resources other than selecting and deselecting resources one by one. This is absurd and about as user unfriendly as it could possibly be. No option to download the first 100 and come back later and do the second 100, etc. No way to select resources in 100 resource groups. It's one at a time or nothing. This is extremely frustrating.

Kevin A

You can 'send' however many books as you want to your devices from the library in the desktop app.

Filter library by relevant 'not on device' in the filters. Open the resource information panel on the right, highlight the books in your library you wish to send to device, then at the bottom of the information panel choose the device.

This stopped working for me for many years, with nothing being sent to my device, however it does now work, so I think something was fixed.

https://youtu.be/ikQm9oM3NTI

Lew Worthington

I also had problems with this for years. The devices would not show up for me. But now, it seems to work.

That's my preferred method, anyway, since library filters don't really work on mobile Logos as it does on the desktop.

John Kaess

Thank you Kevin and Lew. This is very helpful.

Mike Childs

https://community.logos.com/discussion/245442/rethink-the-100-book-download-limit

I completely agree. This is another obvious example of Logos not caring a bit what the users think. This certainly seems to be a trend with the new ownership. Another reason that I no longer recommend Logos to people looking for Bible software. The company no longer cares about the customers.

I specifically bought an iPad with a hard drive big enough to hold by entire Logos Library.

Bill Anderson

If you have a keyboard (such as the magic keyboard) attached to your iPad, another way you can get around this limitation on the mobile app is to tap the select icon in the upper right hand corner of the Library, tap the first book in the list, hold down the shift key (and keep it held down), then use your other hand to quickly scroll down the list and tap the last resource you want to download. Whether it is 100 resources or 5,000, it will select them all. Then tap the three dots in the lower right hand corner and tap Download.

I usually select around 1,000 at a time to download. I find it works best that way.

Steven MacDonald

I'm glad if there are some workarounds but this needs to be fixed. I just had to uninstall my Logos app to make room for an IOS update and now I have to reinstall all the books. This is not an unusual scenario. Let the user choose how many to download.

Randy Elassal

I just chose the books not on mobile via the method above and pressed sync on both the desktop app and mobile. Is there anything else that needs to be done to commence the downloading? I don't see anything changing and thought it might update after a time through some kind of auto-sync. I closed both apps to allow for this possibility. I keep getting a sync error and an orange exclamation point. Maybe this trick is DOA in March 2025. Thanks!

Update

The titles are disappearing from the "not on device" screen as I choose them and click to download them onto my phone, but they aren't showing as downloaded on my S24 Ultra. I have only one mobile device or device period other than a desktop listed. Could this update at midnight or some such thing?

JJ Wurtz

stop the madness folks. There is a way of sending all books to your iPad as Kevin A said above. I had a similar post to this and all it took was someone smarter than me to show me how to do it. Follow what he says to do and all the books will be back on your iPad soon enough. Thanks Logos for finding a way to make this happen.

Steven MacDonald

The download from desktop functionality is nice, but some people may only have an iPad. In that case, this won't work.. Logos, please remove the limit.

DMB

I went deskless for several years, and impediments to mobile-only are not fun (the other being tagging/collections).

Chad Katter

It would be helpful if Logos added a setting which allows us to schedule downloads to mobile devices to begin at a certain time, such as midnight, when we expect we will not need to use our mobile devices for the next several hours.

I recently purchased a new phone with a hard large enough to contain my entire Logos library … thankfully everything downloaded successfully, but the process took several hours.