AI Search Sketchy

ASUNDER
ASUNDER Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
edited March 3 in English Forum

Two things to talk about:

When I do an AI "All" search:

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But click away to a different search tab. "Bible" or "Books" or any other tab, then go back to "All":

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The search results disappeared. I have to run the search again. Why?
What is the point of purging the search away when going to a different tab? Am I using another AI credit to search the same thing because it decided to delete out the search for no reason? When did I tell it to delete the search that I just ran? (And why is my search term text now selected?)

I was going to ask why the 'Preview' button is missing when you click a search citation to see what book it is (blue numbers). It just has a 'Buy Now' button. How am I supposed to have a look at the book in the store page without first having to put it in my cart?

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The Library section (Add To Library) has the 'Preview' button on most books:

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?
(I just found out the book title itself is the preview button. So nevermind.)

Then I realized that basically all the citations given in the AI search results are for books that I DON'T own. Wait a second…

You're not using the AI search as an advertisement funnel are you?
There is a lot of content made now, talking about why the Google search went downhill. Because it's just an advertising platform now, instead of a search engine. Are you guys doing that same thing with your own AI bot? Please no 😭

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,110

    The search results disappeared. I have to run the search again. Why?

    Because a single search panel has a single place to show results; if you wish to preserve the results, open a new search panel or copy the results.

    Then I realized that basically all the citations given in the AI search results are for books that I DON'T own. Wait a second…

    If most of the results are not from your library, you should be getting a message suggesting you do a precise search. Did you not get the message?

    And please recognize that if there is too much social commentary, I quit reading posts.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member, MVP Posts: 1,676
    edited March 3

    You're not using the AI search as an advertisement funnel are you?

    The Smart All search includes the entire Logos catalog. One advantage of this is that it may generate a superior search synopsis for the user. The ability to summarize unowned content can also be helpful.

    If one is not interested in seeing content from unowned resources, one must use the more specific searches, such as a Books search.

  • ASUNDER
    ASUNDER Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭

    Because a single search panel has a single place to show results; if you wish to preserve the results, open a new search panel or copy the results.

    Or instead it could simply not delete the search when it has absolutely no reason to.

    And please recognize that if there is too much social commentary, I quit reading posts.

    I don't remember asking for a critique on my posts.
    Why did you tell me what you are going to read?

    I've heard they have a quarter million titles in their catalogue or something, so that would explain why *all the answers have non-owned books, considering the probability of 1,000 vs 250,000. So that would make sense. I just thought of the pattern of Google using a search engine for something it isn't intended for.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,450 ✭✭✭✭

    This doesn't solve your stolen searches problem, but good to know. I wonder if re-doing your search costs you more credits (I don't know that much about Logos' AI).

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • DMM
    DMM Member Posts: 254 ✭✭✭

    I noticed the change in the removal of the preview button this weekend when I accidentally purchased a book.

    I do not like that change. I often would click on the preview button to see a book I don't own on the Logos site. Sometimes I added it to my wish list, sometimes I'd see what packages it is included in.

    But the buy now button does exactly that - it does not open a browser window with the book in your cart for you to review before purchase, it immediately charges you for the book. I immediately e-mailed for a refund.

    In my opinion, clicking something like that should always either open it up in a browser for you to complete the purchase, or at least ask for confirmation. Or perhaps even a setting to disable purchases within the software. I went and changed my default card on file to one that will not go through.

    =

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,450 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 3

    I wonder why a comment like yours, would be needed? It's seems pretty obvious … why their aggressive design? I'm more and more, wondering about what's going on in that company.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭

    If anything is 'sketchy' here, it's this. Skip the cart and go straight to purchase?? Not cool.

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member, MVP Posts: 1,676

    Agreed. Please allow for (at minimum) a confirmation prompt before processing the order.

  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,386 ✭✭✭
    edited March 10