Advanced Timeline

Phil Cooper
Phil Cooper Member Posts: 28 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Am a Layman, have taught Sunday School for more than 50 years, find Logos invaluable, have used since 2002.  Have Logos Bronze and 10. 

Am a bit of a visual learner, love maps, images, drawings, graphics, graphs, photos.  Have only dabbled with the Advanced Time.  Find the time for the necessary trial & error to master more than I can currently afford, understand only some of the blizzard of filters, uncertain of the several most productive uses/purposes/applications.  I sense there is great potential.  I have done the Logos training, Morris Proctor, Scott Lindsey material.

Among those of you who use the Advanced Timeline more than occassionally I would very much appreciate any info as to your most valuable use/purpose/application and the filters and combinations thereof.   Any advice or tips would be great.  And finally, once the timeline is populated, is it possible to remove less important entries.  I would like to use the Timeline as a part of Zoom Classes.

Thank you All very much.

Phil

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,364 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, Phil, I wish you the best ... 50 years of Sunday School teaching is pretty amazing!  That's where the rubber hits the road.

    My post will waste your time; I haven't succeeded in figuring Timeline or Advanced Timeline out after so many years of attempts.  I don't understand what it's trying to solve  ... I think if you're in a Bible, you can right-click > events in a timeline.  Basically it's events from resources, dumped into a database and then classified. But for personal use to view history, or Bible class, I use the timelines in the various resources.   Almost always, you need time and space (timeline and maps!).  The atlas isn't much better, either.

    Here's an example of the problem below.  I've selected 1 Corinthians.  I'm sure there's probably some events about when written, maybe some connective travel events and so forth.  But you'll notice, all I get is Easter!  At least timely. I thought, well maybe it's the 46ad ... Paul was in the 50s.  So, I expanded the time out to the 80s (well, you never know).  No luck.  Still, just Easter.  

    You may like it, but its big problem is (1) no customizing beyond filters, and (2) no matching at local events, to era events (to give perspective).  It's similar to the Atlas.

    Added:  For class use, in the above example, you'll notice the presentation timing is mixed up.  Class students get wrapped around the axel, on the bad sort and event duplication, instead of listening ...  you lose your train of discussion!

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • EastTN
    EastTN Member Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭

    Phil. thank you for your service to the church! 

    My experience with the timeline is very similar to DMB's. While there's a lot of information in the timeline, I have not been able to successfully use it to create simple timelines that I can use in a classroom setting. What I've done instead is build my own timelines in PowerPoint, using Logos as a reference for the dates I want to include. Sometimes I use the Advanced Timeline as the reference for my dates, sometimes I get them from the commentaries and other resources I'm using for my class prep. 

    This is not a great solution, but it allows me to create timelines that look good, include just the dates I need for the lesson, and are easy to understand. But it is very time-consuming. The inability to use the Timeline tool to create simple charts for classroom use is the single greatest frustration I have Logos.

  • Brian K
    Brian K Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited March 15

    I've had the same problem. In earlier versions of Logos (Libronix, to be specific) the timeline filters were better, I was able to edit timelines and add events of my own, and I could even create a custom timeline from scratch. That functionality appears to be completely gone so I'm not sure how the "Advanced Timeline" qualifies as an advancement. As others have noted elsewhere on these forums, it dumps a lot of extraneous (and frequently liberal-biased) information into the timeline which is culled (I assume) from one's resources.

    So, for example, when I tried to create a timeline for the Post-Exilic period for Sunday School, I got all sorts of speculative dates (early and late) for the lives and writings of the prophets and other biblical characters, and there appears to be no way to filter out specific data points. My Sunday School class doesn't require this level of information.

    I have switched to AeonTimeline to create my timelines for Sunday School. It is a good piece of software that does its job very well.

  • NichtnurBibelleser
    NichtnurBibelleser Member Posts: 547 ✭✭✭

    To me, Advanced Timline is like a visual index of the books that are linked with it.

    To vote for customizable Advanced Timeline, see here.