About a marriage issue.

Tes
Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum


Is there a
resource in logos about marriage issue.who is allowed to marry or not to marry
after devorce,basing on the scripture.

A married
couple , disagreed ,they were living speparated in different rooms in the same  house , after some  years the woman ,decided to live with another
man,so now after waiting some years ,now the man(x-man) is on the way to marry
a girl.The eleders of the church have said ,said that OK,  we will not carry out the wedding ceremony ,but
we are going to bless you, assuming that the man has ones made commitment with
his X-wife ,now it is not possible to make commitment with the girl.For me it
is a paradox,I couldn’t understand it ,because on the one hand the elders are recognizing
them ,on the other hand they let them to live without commitment to one
another.my understanding is even though they could have serious problems in
their marraiage ,it is the woman who broke the commitment ,since the commitment
is made by two parties,if the one fails to hold his Commitment ,then it is no
more valid.So accorsing to my understanding  the man is free to marry and the elders have
to carry out the ceremonial marriage.I understand this has to do with a church
doctrine,but we Christains have our one Bible and we have to interprate it as
it is.Please help me to understand this.in any means. My e-mail address
is:Gtesfai AT Web Dot de.

 

Blessings in Christ.

Comments

  • NetworkGeek
    NetworkGeek Member Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭

    If you are interested in Christ's teachings on divorce, there are some Gospel verses to read, study, and pray about:

    Matt 5:31-32

    Matt 19:3-9

    Mark 10:2-12

    Luke 16:18

    You can also search in your entire library for any commentaries, articles etc. on these Gospel verses by searching for example for <Matt 19:3-9>  with the brackets, then any text that references any or all of these verses will come up.

     

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    If you are interested in Christ's teachings on divorce, there are some Gospel verses to read, study, and pray about:

    Matt 5:31-32

    Matt 19:3-9

    Mark 10:2-12

    Luke 16:18

    You can also search in your entire library for any commentaries, articles etc. on these Gospel verses by searching for example for <Matt 19:3-9>  with the brackets, then any text that references any or all of these verses will come up.

     

    It is difficult to understand my question based on these verses,I need an adequate interpretation.

     

    Blessings in Christ.

  • lostlogik
    lostlogik Member Posts: 187 ✭✭

    Post edited/deleted to stay away from theological discussion..

  • Graham Owen
    Graham Owen Member Posts: 665 ✭✭

    Tes said:

    It is difficult to understand my question based on these verses,I need an adequate interpretation.

    The scriptures quoted and others will have been used to inform your Church's position on this I am not aware of a specific resource that addresses the issue that you have outlined specifically. A search for "divorce AND marriage" should find some articles in your Logos Library that might help.

    Whilst not unique, the situation you outline is reasonably complex as clearly both parties were active in the failure of the marriage as evidenced by the decision to live apart under the same roof. We then have the destructive act of one partner moving further and establishing a new (adulterous) relationship. At this point the possibility of redemption and restoration of the relationship become limited and the likelihood of divorce increased.

    No matter what the rights and wrongs of the situation prior to the adultery once adultery occurs Matthew 5:31-32 would become applicable i.e. the non adulterous partner has the right to a divorce.

    Do you have a specific concern with the approach taken by your Church?

    God Bless

    Graham

    Pastor - NTCOG Basingstoke

  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭

    It's not a Logos resource, but here's a blog post I wrote as part of my prep for a sermon on marriage and divorce:

    http://www.seektheholy.com/2009/12/30/christians-and-divorce/

  • lostlogik
    lostlogik Member Posts: 187 ✭✭

    It's not a Logos resource, but here's a blog post I wrote as part of my prep for a sermon on marriage and divorce:

    http://www.seektheholy.com/2009/12/30/christians-and-divorce/

    A nice sermon, which puts across very well what I was trying to say in 10 words. (I've downloaded the pdf)

  • NetworkGeek
    NetworkGeek Member Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭

    I just posted the Bible verses because there are any number of interpretations as to what Jesus taught.  Christians believe everything from absolutely no divorce, as it would appear Jesus was questioned as to how he meant this given what Moses said, to divorce is ok. And people believe all levels.  So unfortunately your only course of action is to either read, pray and discern, and decide for yourself, or decide on an authority, whether a person or a church or a web site, whose opinion you agree with, and follow that. There is no definitive answer to your questions, only opinions as to what Jesus taught.

    We are also under forum guidelines to stay away from theological discussion because the opinions on truth are so widely varying, it gets into a potentially contentious situation. Let's hope this thread does not degrade into that!

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Thank you for including your email Tes.  It is my hope that you will gain some great responses.

    The Given list of Bible verses, including 1 Corinthians 7 would be a great set of passages to study.

    We are also under forum guidelines to stay away from theological discussion because the opinions on truth are so widely varying, it gets into a potentially contentious situation. Let's hope this thread does not degrade into that!

    I have not read the following Logos resources but they may be helpful in clarifying scriptural teaching on the issues you raise.

    McGee, J. Vernon. Marriage & Divorce. electronic ed. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 2001.

    Sproul, R.C. (Robert Charles). The Intimate Marriage : A Practical Guide to Building a Great Marriage. Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers, 1975.

     

    Both of them contain chapters on Divorce issues. 

    Of course I would encourage you first to do some exegesis on the references already given and to follow any trails of thought.

    Within the confines of this forum's regulations I can go no farther than this.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • lostlogik
    lostlogik Member Posts: 187 ✭✭

    We are also under forum guidelines to stay away from theological discussion 

    Oops. Wasn't aware of that but can fully understand.

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Tes, in addition to all these fine suggestions I would do a library search with the word "remarriage" it seems to be the most important word that will bring up discussions of this theological issue.

    I also searched Logos.com for remarriage and noted a couple of small collections that looked like they would contain good resources on this topic if you are interested in spending some money.

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    The eleders of the church have said ,said that OK,  we will not carry out the wedding ceremony ,but we are going to bless you,

    There are a number of books that deal with divorce and re-marriage. But they appear to be part of big collections.
    (I guess you can buy all of them. [I] )
    Christian Focus Marriage and Family Collection (7 Vols.) http://www.logos.com/products/details/5667
    Tony Evans Collection (16 Vols.) http://www.logos.com/products/details/4243
    B&H Marriage and Family Collection (19 Vols.) http://www.logos.com/products/details/4135
    Loraine Boettner Collection (8 Vols.) http://www.logos.com/products/details/4725
    And still in Pre-Pub: Hope for the Heart Biblical Counseling Library (100 Vols.) http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/5265
    ****************************************************
    EDITED to remove my comments (after reading Michael Halpern's post)
    I replaced it with an interesting take from Jon Courson  http://www.logos.com/products/details/6455

     "But if I marry her, I fear we’ll be living in adultery all of our lives.”
    “I can’t tell you what to do,” I said. “But I do know this: I’m a bride and I have failed greatly. But my Bridegroom, Jesus Christ, was willing to absorb my pollution and iniquity to bring me into His love and into His family. Therefore, I do not believe it is against the heart of God for you to enter into a relationship to redeem that mother and child—even if it means absorbing pollution and bearing iniquity—because that’s exactly what Jesus did for me.”

    I take time to address this issue because I believe it is important. On one hand, people are taking divorce far too lightly because they fail to realize its seriousness. On the other hand, the church too often mistakenly stands ready to judge and condemn couples who have admittedly failed, but who have sought the Lord and are now starting a new life together. There needs to be a balance in this very sober and serious matter of divorce."

    -- Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (149). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭✭

    I think it is damaging to allow a divorced/re-married person to give a "testimony" before the church saying, "I was married to a horrible spouse, I dumped them, then God blessed me with this new spouse and everything is fine now, praise God!" This tells other struggling couples to achieve happiness they just need to jettison their loser spouse for the shiny, new spouse.

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  • Michael G. Halpern
    Michael G. Halpern Member Posts: 266 ✭✭

    Just a word of caution:  Forum rules prohibit theological discussions!  Our opinions as to what Scripture says/doesn't say is just that (at least on these forums)...just opinions; not to be discussed!  Please adhere to the rules as to be the respectful Christians we desire to be and if you wish to provide OP w/additional information beyond her request for resources, she has provided you with an email address to do so.  Thank you...Michael

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    I just posted the Bible verses because there are any number of interpretations as to what Jesus taught.

    Good move.

    "Meanwhile, people in deteriorating marriages and in the churches that stand alongside them are frustrated. Does the Bible have a clear word or does it not? Any struggling couple can easily find a biblical scholar, a book, a therapist, a pastor, and/or a Christian congregation to support any position they themselves have reached (or want to reach) on the question of divorce and remarriage. In the end those in struggling marriages would probably benefit more by focusing on “marriage texts” than on “divorce texts,” which is exactly what Jesus modeled in Mark 10:5–9."

    Geddert, T. J. (2001). Mark. Believers Church Bible Commentary (240). Scottdale, Pa.: Herald Press.

    This is from a Logos resource available in the Platinum & Portfolio Edition packages.
    Available separately: Believers Church Bible Commentary (19 Vols) http://www.logos.com/products/details/2080

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Do you have a specific concern with the approach taken by your Church?

    Thank you Graham.(I want to avoid the avoid the quotation..

    What ever the case may be ,I am speaking about reallity.about what has taken place.Yesterday I have discussed with my frined.he put his anchor on one statement again  and again ,''The man has a right to dovorce here as long as she committed adultery,but he doesn't have to marry'',my position is first even they had disagreement it was the womans who broke the committment ,for this reason he can marry another one,here is the paradox''the elders of the church allowed him to marry ,but they would not make the ceremonial committment,instead they would bless them.That means they don't have committment ,so that makes them free to devorce.for me as long as they have allowed them to marry,what forbides them to make  a committment?

    please send your comments to my e-mail  Gtesfai AT web.de

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Ron Cook
    Ron Cook Member Posts: 110 ✭✭

    Not available in Logos to my knowledge but a resource that I use in my Christian Counseling practice is "Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in the Bible" by Jay Adams.  

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  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    You might check the references on Marriage for any of the topical Bibles in Logos. I regularly use all of them:

    NASB Topical Index
    Nelson's Topical Bible Index
    New Topical Textbook
    Topical Analyis of the Bible
    The Thematic Bible: Topical Analysis
    Collins Thesaurus of the Bible

    Below is a list of references from Nave's Topical BIble in Logos, for example. As you can see, each topic will have suggestions that lead to other topics & Scriptures that may be helpful.


    MARRIAGE. In family blood lines, Abraham and Sarah, Gen. 11:29; 12:13; 20:3, 9–16. Isaac and Rebekah, Gen. 24:3, 4, 67; 28:2. Jacob and his wives, Gen. 29:15–30; see below, in the elaborated text. Levirate (the brother required to marry a brother’s widow), Gen. 38:8, 11; Deut. 25:5–10; Ruth 4:5; Matt. 22:24; Mark 12:19–23; Luke 20:28. Parents contract for their children: Hagar selects a wife for Ishmael, Gen. 21:21; Abraham for Isaac, Gen. 24; Laban arranges for his daughters’ marriage, Gen. 29; Samson asks his parents to procure him a wife, Judg. 14:2. Parents’ consent required in the Mosaic law, Ex. 22:17. Presents given to parents to secure their favor, Gen. 24:53; 34:12; Deut. 22:29; 1 Sam. 18:25; Hos. 3:2. Marriage feasts, Gen. 29:22; Judg. 14:12; Esth. 2:18; Matt. 22:11, 12. Jesus present at, John 2:1–5. Ceremony attested by witnesses, Ruth 4:1–11; Isa. 8:1–3. Bridegroom exempt one year from military duty, Deut. 24:5. Bridal ornaments, Isa. 49:18; Jer. 2:32. Bridal presents, Gen. 24:53; Psa. 45:12. Herald preceded the bridegroom, Matt. 25:6. Wedding robes adorned with jewels, Isa. 61:10. Wives obtained by purchase, Gen. 29:20; Ruth 4:10; Hos. 3:2; 12:12; by kidnapping, Judg. 21:21–23. Given by Kings, 1 Sam. 17:25; 18:17, 21. Daughters given in, as rewards of valor, Judg. 1:12; 1 Sam. 17:25; 18:27. Wives taken by edict, Esth. 2:2–4, 8–14. David gave one hundred Philistine foreskins for a wife, 2 Sam. 3:14. Wives among the Israelites must be Israelites, Ex. 34:16; Deut. 7:3, 4; 1 Chr. 23:22; Ezra 9:1, 2, 12; Neh. 10:30; 13:26, 27; Mal. 2:11; 1 Cor. 7:39; 2 Cor. 6:14. Betrothal a quasi-marriage, Matt. 1:18; Luke 1:27. Betrothal made with the spirit, Ezek. 16:8. Celibacy deplored, Judg. 11:38; Isa. 4:1; Jer. 16:9; advised, 1 Cor. 7:7, 8, 24–40. Obligations under, inferior to duty to God, Deut. 13:6–10; Matt. 19:29; Luke 14:26. Not binding after death, Matt. 22:29, 30; Mark 12:24, 25. See Bride; Bridegroom.




    Unclassified Scriptures Relating to:

    Gen. 2:23, 24 1 Cor. 6:16. Ex. 22:16, 17; Lev. 18:6–8 [Deut. 22:30.] Lev. 18:9–18; Lev. 20:14, 17, 19–21; Lev. 21:1, 7, 13–15; Num. 36:8; Deut. 21:10–14; Deut. 24:1–5; Prov. 18:22; Prov. 21:9, 19; Jer. 29:6; Hos. 2:19, 20; Mal. 2:13–16; Matt. 5:31, 32; Mark 6:17, 18; Mark 10:2–12 Matt. 19:2–9. Luke 16:18; Rom. 7:1–3; 1 Cor. 7:1–40; 1 Cor. 9:5; 1 Cor. 11:11, 12; 1 Tim. 3:2, 12; 1 Tim. 4:1, 3; 1 Tim. 5:14; Heb. 13:4

     




    Figurative:

    Isa. 54:5; 62:4, 5; Jer. 3:14; 31:32; Hos. 1:2; 2:19, 20; Eph. 5:30–32; Rev. 19:7–9. Parables from, Matt. 22:2; 25:1–10. See Divorce; Husband; Wife.

     

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


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  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,877

    John Piper's What Jesus Demands from the World has a few chapters on divorce and remarriage that are pretty good: http://www.logos.com/ebooks/details/WHATJESDEM You can also get that book for free in pdf format http://www.desiringgod.org/media/pdf/books_bwjd/books_bwjd.pdf

    There are some others as well. 

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

  • Brian Davidson
    Brian Davidson Member Posts: 826 ✭✭✭

    Tes, as someone who has gone through a marriage, divorce, and remarriage I highly recommend two resources (I don't know if they are in Logos or not). Both argue that divorce is acceptable in certain circumstances and in those circumstances remarriage is acceptable as well:

    Andreas Kostenberger, God, Marriage, and Family

    http://amzn.to/a8Emgr

    David Instone-Brewer, Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible

    http://amzn.to/djyglG

     

    For the other side of the coin:

    William Heth and Gordon Wenham, Jesus and Divorce (These guys strongly shaped Piper's conclusions. At the time of the writing of the original edition of this book both authors believed divorce was acceptable in limited circumstances, but remarriage was never OK)

    http://amzn.to/aJtfjO

    One of the authors, Heth, has changed his mind and talks about it in the article below (after clicking the link, click download on the page that it takes you to). He now thinks similarly to Kostenberger and Instone-Brewer.

    "Jesus on Divorce: How My Mind Has Changed"

    http://bit.ly/9RIlzp

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Andreas Kostenberger, God, Marriage, and Family

    http://amzn.to/a8Emgr

    Brian, this is off topic, but how did you create that amzn.to link? I use bit.ly as a URL shortener all the time, and it's great. But I tried going to amzn.to and it's just an alias for amazon.com. I couldn't see any way to create an amzn.to link on a book descriptor page either. Thanks!

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are two chapters on Divorce and Remarriage in Ethics for a Brave New World which is included in most base packages so you probably have it already.

    There is an extended discussion on the subject in Hard Sayings of the Bible, p. 431 (part of the Essential IVP Reference Collection) under [Mark] 10:11-12 No Divorce and Remarriage? (logosres:hardsay;ref=Page.p_431)

    There are a couple of articles in Evangelical Review of Theology which is part of the WEA Theological Resource Library:

    There's a chapter called "Key Questions in Remarital Counseling" in Building Your Church through Counsel and Care, edited by Marshall Shelley (logosres:lldev03;ref=Page.p_253)

    There's an entry "Divorce and Remarriage" in the New International Encyclopedia of Bible Words (Zondervan). (logosres:niebw;hw=Divorce_and_Remarriage)

    Those resources only address the issue of remarriage specifically. Adultery is another issue (though it will be touched on in some of the above, as it relates to remarriage).

    And of course this is a contentious issue today, even as it was back in Jesus' time, so you will find a wide variety of interpretations of the biblical passages and will need to come to your own conclusions.

    UPDATE: The links to resources within Logos don't seem to work on the forum with the new logosres protocol so I've copied/pasted that URL beside those links and if you have those resources in your library, you can copy that link text and paste it into your command bar, and Logos will open the resource to the specified location.

  • J.R. Miller
    J.R. Miller Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭✭


    Boettner, Loraine. Divorce. Phillipsburg, NJ: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Company, 1973.

    is a part of this set

    http://www.logos.com/products/details/4725

     

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  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    lostlogik said:

    It's not a Logos resource, but here's a blog post I wrote as part of my prep for a sermon on marriage and divorce:

    http://www.seektheholy.com/2009/12/30/christians-and-divorce/

    A nice sermon, which puts across very well what I was trying to say in 10 words. (I've downloaded the pdf)

    Very interesting ,May the Lord bless you, I read  it,thank you so much.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Excellent ,May the Lord bless you with your family and ,your ministry , very interesting(.I first mistakingly replied the next post).

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    It's not a Logos resource, but here's a blog post I wrote as part of my prep for a sermon on marriage and divorce:

    http://www.seektheholy.com/2009/12/30/christians-and-divorce/

    Excellent ,May the Lord bless you with your family and ,your ministry , very interesting(.I first mistakingly replied the next post)

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    BillS said:

    You might check the references on Marriage for any of the topical Bibles in Logos. I regularly use all of them:

    NASB Topical Index
    Nelson's Topical Bible Index
    New Topical Textbook
    Topical Analyis of the Bible
    The Thematic Bible: Topical Analysis
    Collins Thesaurus of the Bible

    Below is a list of references from Nave's Topical BIble in Logos, for example. As you can see, each topic will have suggestions that lead to other topics & Scriptures that may be helpful.


    MARRIAGE. In family blood lines, Abraham and Sarah, Gen. 11:29; 12:13; 20:3, 9–16. Isaac and Rebekah, Gen. 24:3, 4, 67; 28:2. Jacob and his wives, Gen. 29:15–30; see below, in the elaborated text. Levirate (the brother required to marry a brother’s widow), Gen. 38:8, 11; Deut. 25:5–10; Ruth 4:5; Matt. 22:24; Mark 12:19–23; Luke 20:28. Parents contract for their children: Hagar selects a wife for Ishmael, Gen. 21:21; Abraham for Isaac, Gen. 24; Laban arranges for his daughters’ marriage, Gen. 29; Samson asks his parents to procure him a wife, Judg. 14:2. Parents’ consent required in the Mosaic law, Ex. 22:17. Presents given to parents to secure their favor, Gen. 24:53; 34:12; Deut. 22:29; 1 Sam. 18:25; Hos. 3:2. Marriage feasts, Gen. 29:22; Judg. 14:12; Esth. 2:18; Matt. 22:11, 12. Jesus present at, John 2:1–5. Ceremony attested by witnesses, Ruth 4:1–11; Isa. 8:1–3. Bridegroom exempt one year from military duty, Deut. 24:5. Bridal ornaments, Isa. 49:18; Jer. 2:32. Bridal presents, Gen. 24:53; Psa. 45:12. Herald preceded the bridegroom, Matt. 25:6. Wedding robes adorned with jewels, Isa. 61:10. Wives obtained by purchase, Gen. 29:20; Ruth 4:10; Hos. 3:2; 12:12; by kidnapping, Judg. 21:21–23. Given by Kings, 1 Sam. 17:25; 18:17, 21. Daughters given in, as rewards of valor, Judg. 1:12; 1 Sam. 17:25; 18:27. Wives taken by edict, Esth. 2:2–4, 8–14. David gave one hundred Philistine foreskins for a wife, 2 Sam. 3:14. Wives among the Israelites must be Israelites, Ex. 34:16; Deut. 7:3, 4; 1 Chr. 23:22; Ezra 9:1, 2, 12; Neh. 10:30; 13:26, 27; Mal. 2:11; 1 Cor. 7:39; 2 Cor. 6:14. Betrothal a quasi-marriage, Matt. 1:18; Luke 1:27. Betrothal made with the spirit, Ezek. 16:8. Celibacy deplored, Judg. 11:38; Isa. 4:1; Jer. 16:9; advised, 1 Cor. 7:7, 8, 24–40. Obligations under, inferior to duty to God, Deut. 13:6–10; Matt. 19:29; Luke 14:26. Not binding after death, Matt. 22:29, 30; Mark 12:24, 25. See Bride; Bridegroom.

     


     



    Unclassified Scriptures Relating to:

    Gen. 2:23, 24 1 Cor. 6:16. Ex. 22:16, 17; Lev. 18:6–8 [Deut. 22:30.] Lev. 18:9–18; Lev. 20:14, 17, 19–21; Lev. 21:1, 7, 13–15; Num. 36:8; Deut. 21:10–14; Deut. 24:1–5; Prov. 18:22; Prov. 21:9, 19; Jer. 29:6; Hos. 2:19, 20; Mal. 2:13–16; Matt. 5:31, 32; Mark 6:17, 18; Mark 10:2–12 Matt. 19:2–9. Luke 16:18; Rom. 7:1–3; 1 Cor. 7:1–40; 1 Cor. 9:5; 1 Cor. 11:11, 12; 1 Tim. 3:2, 12; 1 Tim. 4:1, 3; 1 Tim. 5:14; Heb. 13:4

     

     

     

     


     



    Figurative:

    Isa. 54:5; 62:4, 5; Jer. 3:14; 31:32; Hos. 1:2; 2:19, 20; Eph. 5:30–32; Rev. 19:7–9. Parables from, Matt. 22:2; 25:1–10. See Divorce; Husband; Wife.

     

     

     

     

    Thank you Bills,but how can I organize it so as to be able to read the verses easily?

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    Thank you Bills,but how can I organize it so as to be able to read the verses easily?

    If you have Nave's Topical Bible navigate to the entry that Bill copied.

    Create a new Passage List.

    Select all the text that Bill did. Then in the Passage list document click Add and then "... from selected text"

    You can then select your preferred Logos version to read these verses in.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    Thank you Bills,but how can I organize it so as to be able to read the verses easily?

    If you have Nave's Topical Bible navigate to the entry that Bill copied.

    Create a new Passage List.

    Select all the text that Bill did. Then in the Passage list document click Add and then "... from selected text"

    You can then select your preferred Logos version to read these verses in.

    Thank you Kevin,I thought it was from his private studies,thank you for reminding me ,what I have already own.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    Thank you Bills,but how can I organize it so as to be able to read the verses easily?

    Hi Tes,

    Before copying any of them, I preview them IN the topical bible resource by hovering over them. If they're REALLY of interest to the question I brought to the topical Bibles in Logos, THEN only do I copy the reference / text to a non-Logos Word document for private use.

    Grace & Peace,
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  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    lostlogik said:

    We are also under forum guidelines to stay away from theological discussion 

    Oops. Wasn't aware of that but can fully understand.

    I don't think so,
    instead logos would be aware the needs of logos 4 users , This  is a kind of feadback ,you can  observe how many sugestions are being made.if the
    resources are in logos it is good ,but if they are not available ,it is not bad
    if some one points where to find them,and that makes logos as well  to concentrate  on such resourses.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,932

    Tes said:

    I don't think so,

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    Tes, we are asked to avoid theological questions. The purpose of the forums is to help people use Logos. This may include referring you to references within Logos - in this case pointing you to the topical Bibles. If we want certain books in Logos there is a thread in the forums and an email address to pass that information to Logos.

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  • Brian Davidson
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    Brian, this is off topic, but how did you create that amzn.to link?

    Rosie, I use the bit.ly sidebar tool. 

    I find the Amazon page, click the "bit.ly sidebar" on my toolbar, click the copy link button that pops up, and paste.

    I checked the links and they took me to each particular books Amazon page.

  • Rosie Perera
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    Tes said:


    lostlogik said:

    We are also under forum guidelines to stay away from theological discussion 

    Oops. Wasn't aware of that but can fully understand.

    I don't think so, instead logos would be aware the needs of logos 4 users , This  is a kind of feadback ,you can  observe how many sugestions are being made.if the resources are in logos it is good ,but if they are not available ,it is not bad if some one points where to find them,and that makes logos as well  to concentrate  on such resourses.


    Yes, it is OK to recommend resources outside of Logos, and even to encourage Logos to get those resources. But it is not within the guidelines of these forums to try to convince someone of a particular theological viewpoint, nor to argue about theology or criticize someone else's beliefs. There are other discussion forums on the 'net where that is acceptable. I think most of the posts on this thread have been within the guidelines and the couple of cases where someone might have slipped up were unintentional and they edited out their comments right away as soon as they realized it.

    It is OK to acknowledge that there are different positions on a question and direct the questioner to resources to help them figure it out, but we should be careful to avoid one-sided lobbying of resources for one particular position. Realize that many great minds have thought about most of the question that arise in our studies and have come to different conclusions about it, so it is well to examine both sides and prayerfully try to discern what you agree with.

    MJ. Smith said:

      

    Tes, we are asked to avoid theological questions.

    I don't think Tes was wrong to ask for recommended resources in helping sort out a tricky theological question he had. That's not what we're meant to avoid. We're meant to avoid letting it degrade into a discussion over which theological position is right or wrong. Clearly there are a diversity of views represented by the many users of Logos and these forums, and we need to make sure this remains a safe place to learn about using Logos, not a place to have our beliefs called into question. That's the purpose behind that guideline.

  • MJ. Smith
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    MJ. Smith said:

      

    Tes, we are asked to avoid theological questions.

    I don't think Tes was wrong to ask for recommended resources in helping sort out a tricky theological question he had. That's not what we're meant to avoid.

    I'd prefer it if you kept my opinion clear by quoting more of the context - or not quoting me at all. My comment also indicates Tes was not wrong to ask.

    MJ. Smith said:

      Tes, we are asked to avoid theological questions. The purpose of the
    forums is to help people use Logos. This may include referring you to
    references within Logos - in this case pointing you to the topical
    Bibles.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Tes
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    I don't think Tes was wrong to ask for recommended resources in helping sort out a tricky theological question he had.

    Rosie,you made me laugh.I admit
    first I wanted to make clear my theological problem, hoping I might get help,
    as well as recommending me where to find resources about it in logos. Well, to
    avoid the problem with the forum, I have written my e-mail address. I think
    that is a fair one, if someone wants to help me, there would be no problem. However,
    I did not have the specific answer yet, for the paradox, blessing on the one
    hand and not allowing the ceremonial commitment.nevertheles,I appreciate for
    every help.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)
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    Resurrecting an old thread as the software in 2025 now has a suppport article: How Logos uses AI

    Bible Smart Search for marriage and divorce finds many passages to 🙏 prayerfully consider:

    🙏 Praying: Lord, You Know what every one needs in their hearts (emotional), minds (mental), souls (social), & strength (physical). Please Lord, help us & heal us to ❤️ Love ❤️ You with everything so we can Worship (spiritual) You as You designed & deserve 🙏

    Note: my hands are my 🙏 prayer prompter: long finger for heart, ring finger for mind, little finger for soul, thumb for strength and index finger pointing up ☝️ for Worship. My hands show me Holy design for personal intimacy along with Holy Oneness design for marriage (hands clasped together with no space between the palms): each person intently ❤️ Loving ❤️ God that enables husband & wife to ❤️ Love ❤️ each other ❤️

    Sadly if/when butting heads (minds bent on their own ways), then oneness has a barrier (unable to ❤️ Love ❤️ well when belief/trust is lacking). Bending ring fingers to show butting heads (between hands) also shows gap between palms. Angry words can be illustrated with long fingers bent & banging against each other (bigger gap between palms wholly touching).

    Keep Smiling 😊