Can I search "sense" in any apocryphal/deuterocanocial text?

John Coatney
John Coatney Member Posts: 35 ✭✭
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Clint Archer recently completed his dissertation for SBTS in which he used a Logos search (sense:"living things ⇔ flesh" OR sense:animal OR sense:"group of creatures" OR sense:"animal group" OR sense:"kind (category)" OR "all creation") to find every mention of an animal in BHS and NA28. I'd like to perform this search for the apocryphal/deutercanonical texts (e.g., Tobit, Sirach, Wisdom of Solomon, etc.), but every resource I try to search shows no results. Is there something I can do to complete this query successfully, or are none of these resources tagged so that this will work?

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  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,239
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    Unfortunately, this data doesn't extend to the Deuterocanon at this time. One of our priorities in 2025 is to increase the number of data sets that include Deuterocanon coverage.

    We just wrapped up work on Sentence Types and Speech Acts and hope to make that available soon.

    As we're working on these projects we will keep Bible Sense Lexicon in mind.

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 28

    NA28 and BHS don't have 'sense'. 'Sense' is a Logos dataset, and mainly shows up in RI's. Unfortunately, as far as I can see, none of the RIs that have the apocrypha/deuterocanon, have 'sense' assigned.

    Now, Mr Archer might have been using an RI linked to BHS/NA28 to get at the assignments. In your case, I'd pull the hebrew/greek from the RIs (OT or NT), and then apply to the Deuterocanon. The more normal alternative is to use LN/DBL assignments.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • John Coatney
    John Coatney Member Posts: 35 ✭✭

    Thank you. I'm trying to understand. When I use the search query (sense:"living things ⇔ flesh" OR sense:animal OR sense:"group of creatures" OR sense:"animal group" OR sense:"kind (category)" OR "all creation"), it works with BHS and NA28, but when I search LogosLXX, it only works with the non-apocryphal texts.

    Is there a quick and easy way to determine which texts have 'sense' assigned?

    Forgive me, but I'm not sure what you mean by pulling the Hebrew/Greek from the RIs to apply to the Deuterocanon. Would you be willing to elaborate?

    I don't think LN/DBL assignments is nearly as thorough as the search string that he developed with John Fallahee, according to the methodology in his dissertation.

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,239
    Answer ✓

    Unfortunately, this data doesn't extend to the Deuterocanon at this time. One of our priorities in 2025 is to increase the number of data sets that include Deuterocanon coverage.

    We just wrapped up work on Sentence Types and Speech Acts and hope to make that available soon.

    As we're working on these projects we will keep Bible Sense Lexicon in mind.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭

    it works with BHS and NA28, but when I search LogosLXX, it only works with the non-apocryphal texts.

    I stand corrected! Didn't realize that.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • NichtnurBibelleser
    NichtnurBibelleser Member Posts: 538 ✭✭✭

    One of our priorities in 2025 is to increase the number of data sets that include Deuterocanon coverage.

    That sounds good. Does that include the German "Einheitsübersetzung" as requested here?

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