NSRV Translation Going Away June 1, 2025

Ted Weis
Ted Weis Member Posts: 743 ✭✭✭

This announcement from Augsburg Fortress Press:

Will the NRSV be going away? When? 

Yes. The NRSV will not be available after June 30, 2025. Note that this is an eight-week grace period from the previously announced date of May 1, 2005. All publishers of the NRSV Bible (including Augsburg Fortress) are contractually obligated to discontinue selling print NRSV pew and gift Bibles or making the text available in a digital format. 

Friendship Press writes:

The NRSV Updated Edition is the result of rigorous biblical scholarship to give readers access to the most inclusive, informed, and reliable text available. As new manuscripts came to light following the 1989 introduction of the NRSV, an improvement was undertaken to ensure the accuracy, clarity, and modernity of the updated translation.

Two thoughts:

If you really like the NSRV translation, or its reverse inner-linear, but haven't purchased it, better do it soon.

What ancient manuscripts have been discovered beyond 1989 that warrant a new translation? I'm not aware of any.

Comments

  • EastTN
    EastTN Member Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭

    I hate that publishers are pulling older editions of translations. When reading, it's helpful to be able to reference the specific edition that an author cites.

    I get that a publisher will want to promote their newest edition to increase sales, but when a consumer wants to buy a copy of an older edition, that is a new sale. I can see how publishers might not want to keep physical copies of older editions in stock, but that's not an issue with digital platforms.

    It feels like they're leaving money on the table. Maybe not a lot, but money nonetheless.

  • Ken McGuire
    Ken McGuire Member Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭

    I understand their desire to standardize on the updated text. I do hope that as part of this policy they do not mean that every catechism and bible study that is based on the old NRSV will have to be updated to the new text in order to be sold.

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  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭

    It would be nice for Logos to inform users in advance if they are no longer going to be able to sell this resource.

  • Donovan R. Palmer
    Donovan R. Palmer Member, MVP Posts: 2,927

    fwiw - when I know a translation is about to be superseded by a new one, I double check I have a license because it is only a matter of time before it is deprecated. I do this with primary reference materials as well - I.e. BAGD - BDAG. The reason for this is that some materials will reference the older work and never be updated.

  • Ted Weis
    Ted Weis Member Posts: 743 ✭✭✭

    Be assured - if you buy a translation and it goes out-of-circulation, you will always own it in Logos.

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭

    Assume this will also no longer be available:

    New Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition with Reverse Interlinear | Logos Bible Software

    And lots of Legacy Base Packages will need to be reconfigured.

    And will this affect a product like this one on Pre-pub?

    The New Greek-English Interlinear New Testament | Logos Bible Software

    It's not clear if any of NRSV is included as description is possibly pulled from the print edition.

  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,939 ✭✭✭

    Well, at least I have them in Logos 👌

  • Cheyenne Lehto
    Cheyenne Lehto Member, Logos Employee Posts: 72
    edited May 21

    Good morning all! Wanted to follow up here with what will officially be happening with the NRSV, NRSVCE and related titles come May 31. New forum discussion here!

  • Kip Bauer
    Kip Bauer Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    I really appreciate that Logos is letting us know this will only be available a while longer. I'm wondering though, could they let their customers know about titles in general that will disappear from the store? I have a lot on my wish list, and I prioritize what I am working on currently and what's on sale, but if I knew something would no longer be available, that item would become a high priority. I'm sure adding a "Leaving Soon" section to the search is more work than I would think, but it would be so helpful. When I look at my past purchases, I'm shocked at the number of items no longer available - and I've been making purchases for less than three years.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29

    Your idea is both great … and logical. But when the publisher (98% of the time) says stop selling or else, stop means stop.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Rick Mansfield (Logos)
    Rick Mansfield (Logos) Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 464

    @DMB is correct. We rarely get advance notice of a title being pulled like we have with the NRSV. If it were up to us, we would let a digital title stay in the store forever, but many times if a publisher pulls a print version, they revert rights to the author. Often we try to then relicense the title directly from the author if we can, but we still have to pull the title at the publisher's request in the interim according to our licensing agreements.

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  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,939 ✭✭✭

    The only two heads up announcements I remember are when the Moody Publisher titles got pulled years ago and this one. However, after contract negotiations took place years later Moody titles came back which is when I got my set of MacArthur NT commentaries.

    DAL