Missing ebook sale - What If Jesus Was Serious about Heaven

Mattillo
Mattillo Member Posts: 6,314 ✭✭✭✭

The ebook version of this title is on sale at multiple retailers (Amazon,Bn to name a few).

@Rick Mansfield (Logos)

Can Faithlife do this sale too?

https://ebooks.faithlife.com/product/260146/what-if-jesus-was-serious-about-heaven-a-visual-guide-to-experiencing-gods-kingdom-among-us

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  • Rick Mansfield (Logos)
    Rick Mansfield (Logos) Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 460

    @Mattillo I don't have anything to do with sales and promotions, but I've passed this on to those who do.

    Senior Publisher Relations Specialist • Logos Bible Software • Rick.Mansfield@logos.com

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,314 ✭✭✭✭

    my apologies. Thank you sir

  • DMM
    DMM Member Posts: 294 ✭✭✭

    Perhaps Logos might look into a more efficient way of handling these. I regularly get Tim Challie's "Kindle Deals for Christians" list and I always look them up in Logos first - I'd far rather buy the book in Logos rather than Kindle.

    For a while it seemed like the prices were automatically updated on Logos, too, so long as the book was just a plain eBook and not a Logos Research/Reader Edition.

    Many of these "publisher sales" were only for a couple days, sometimes just one. And it was always a roll of the dice as to whether the Logos price was updated for it. Usually the price on other ebook places - Google, Barnes and Nobles, etc, were also reduced.

    It always seemed to me that Logos was leaving money on the table with these.

  • Rick Mansfield (Logos)
    Rick Mansfield (Logos) Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 460

    So, for us to take part in a publisher's promotion—which does happen regularly—the publisher has to let us know in advance that the promotion is going to take place. In the case of this particular book, we were simply not informed by the publisher. We always try to match pricing as we are able to. For a title like this, and from this particular publisher, we can't just go in and drop the price without permission because of the licensing agreement in place.

    Know that we'd always prefer you to buy the book from us than from a competitor 😀

    We just don't always get a heads up, and it's impossible to follow every promotion going on from every publisher.

    Senior Publisher Relations Specialist • Logos Bible Software • Rick.Mansfield@logos.com

  • DMM
    DMM Member Posts: 294 ✭✭✭

    It does seem there's something coming out from the publisher advertising many of them… they even get info such as when the sale starts and ends.

    https://gospelebooks.net/

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    There was even a Lexham Press book included

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    The e-mail I get for Challie's "Kindle Deals for Christians" is usually posted on their website the night before, and many of the deals haven't even gone live yet. So there's some communication from the publishers going out.

    Perhaps there's just some kind of disconnect somewhere and the right person/department in Logos isn't receiving them?

  • Paul Caneparo
    Paul Caneparo Member Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
    edited May 15

    @Rick Mansfield (Logos) I hear it's not your role, but thank you for taking an interest.

    Several publishers in particular seem to overlook Faithlife ebooks when it comes to ebook sales. I never understood why these "Christian" publishing houses would overlook a reseller whose market is Christians, especially when I suspect they make a better margin through Logos than Amazon.

    The biggest "culprits" are Zondervan and Thomas Nelson, although I think Tyndale "forget" too.

    For me the publishers are missing a trick as I am very discerning which books I buy in Kindle, as I prefer to keep my Christian library within Logos if possible. Whereas I'm very indiscriminate when it comes to which sale books I buy in Faithlife ebooks. Therefore the publishers and their authors are missing sales.

    If you have any influence in encouraging colleagues to reach out to Zondervan and Thomas Nelson initially it would be very much appreciated.

  • Jan Krohn
    Jan Krohn Member Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭

    Yes, it does happen regularly. There have been plenty of Amish Romance promotions recently.

    Well, anyway, this is an automated process. There's no person at Amazon receiving emails from the publishers, and maintaining the individual promotions in the system. This is an automated feed coming from the publishers.

    It shouldn't be too difficult to ask the publishers to provide the same feed to Faithlife. If the publishers refuse, maybe it's time to flood their social media inboxes?

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,314 ✭✭✭✭

    Any chance this sale will get fixed?

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,314 ✭✭✭✭

    Another sale missing today. How to Talk
    About Jesus
    https://ebooks.faithlife.com/product/190569/how-to-talk-about-jesus-personal-evangelism-in-a-skeptical-world

    Should be $2.99. Zondervan promotion

  • Paul Caneparo
    Paul Caneparo Member Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
    edited May 22

    Zonderan and Thomas Nelson are the worst at forgetting Faithlife ebooks. This book should be $1.99 at present.

    https://ebooks.faithlife.com/product/17236/why-men-hate-going-to-church

    I've sadly bought in Kindle as I have very little faith Thomas Nelson will include Logos in this sale. I try to buy all my ebooks from Faithlife ebooks and am very discriminating as to which ebooks I buy from Kindle, but some books are too good to miss when the sale price is unlikely to be extended to Faithlife ebooks.