Leaving May 31
Get your copy of the NRSV and NRSVCE by May 31st before it’s gone!
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Wow! You repeated the Post Comment FOUR times. My impression is that most people do three. A few two. I can't tell how many just accept the error message.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I don’t see FOUR times on my end, but I was getting a 500 error (whatever that means) when I posted.
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It's an erroneous error. Everything is posting the first time.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Re: the error, see here.
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Anyone know why it will no longer be offered? I assume a publisher decision, but why?
Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage
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Also, some strange pricing:
NRSVUE: $6.99NRSVUE with Reverse Interlinear: $2.99
Cheaper to by it WITH the RI, than without?Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage
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More details related to these products and why Logos is no longer able to sell are available here:
And re: discount pricing, you are correct! You'll be getting your best value (55% off) when you purchase the translation WITH the RVI. We understand the added value of the Bible with the RVI in Logos and wanted to encourage users to take advantage of the last opportunity to purchase by getting both.
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Because they (the publishers) do not want people using the older editions.
Same thing was done (but different publisher) with the 2011 NIV replacing the 1984 edition which is unavailable to purchase today.
Bruce Gordon in reports that King James similarly made printing the Bishops Bible illegal in England because he did not like resistance to the new King James translation. The Bishops Bible continued to be printed in other countries and smuggled into England.
Interestingly, Logos AI and ChatGPT both report that this was not true, both apparently drawing upon a single Wikipedia article. I own the Bruce Gordon title in audiobook form, so I cannot check for references or footnotes. But I would generally give him more credibility than Wikipedia.
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My research for legal references sort of failed but
There was no single Act of Parliament or royal proclamation explicitly and universally banning the Geneva Bible by name. However, the printing of the Geneva Bible in England was specifically banned by ecclesiastical authority in 1616, and later, its importation was also prohibited. Here are the key references and mechanisms:
1. 1616 Ban by Archbishop George Abbot
In 1616, Archbishop George Abbot, acting as a leading figure in the Church of England, banned the printing of the Geneva Bible in England. This was not a parliamentary act but an ecclesiastical edict, reflecting the authority of the Archbishop and the Crown over religious publishing at the time1346.
The ban targeted the Geneva Bible’s marginal notes, which were viewed as subversive and politically dangerous by both the monarchy and Anglican establishment.
“In 1616, Archbishop George Abbot, a leading figure in the Church of England, banned the printing of the Geneva Bible in England, although existing copies were not confiscated.”1
2. Ban on Importation by Archbishop Laud (1630s)
In the 1630s, Archbishop William Laud extended the prohibition by banning the importation of Geneva Bibles printed abroad, especially from Holland, where many continued to be produced after the English ban245.
This was again an ecclesiastical order, not a civil law, but it had the force of law in practice due to the control of the press and customs by the Church and Crown.
“Printers in Holland recognized the economic opportunity and became the sole source for Geneva Bibles imported into England after 1616. Eventually, in the 1630s, Archbishop Laud banned their importation.”4
3. Act of Uniformity (1662)
The Act of Uniformity (1662) did not name the Geneva Bible directly but solidified the King James Version as the only official Bible of the Church of England, effectively sidelining the Geneva Bible and making its public use in churches illegal1.
This act was parliamentary law and had broad effects on religious practice and publishing.
Depending on whether by illegal you mean secular or ecclesial law, the statement is or isn't true.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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May I know what's the difference between
AND
? As both have the Apocrypha ?
thank you … 🙂
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The NRSV and NRSV-CE don't seem to have any textual differences, but the CE has the 73-book canon in Catholic order (deuterocanon mixed in with the OT), whereas the NRSV has a separate Apocrypha section. In it, there are the same books from the Catholic deuterocanon, Greek Esther (the OT has regular Esther), the additions to Daniel as their own books, the Letter of Jeremiah as its own book (CE has it as a 6th chapter to Baruch), and the Septuagint books which Catholics don't recognize as canon (Psalm 151, Prayer of Manasseh, 3-4 Maccabees, 1-2 Esdras) and so aren't in the NRSV-CE.
As many comments as Catholics make about Protestants removing books, it amuses me that in this instance, it's the Catholic version that removes books. :)2 -
Thank YOU! I appreciate the whole sequence of how the reply is articulated, that's exactly what I wanted to know! 😍 PTL! Okay that helped me to purchased the right one 🤩 Logos should give you some commission or discount as you helped them made sale lol
TIL 😮 "it amuses me that in this instance, it's the Catholic version that removes books. :)" 😂
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As many comments as Catholics make about Protestants removing books, it amuses me that in this instance, it's the Catholic version that removes books. :)
I agree but to be precise it is the western rite Catholics removing books from the ecumenical canon. Byzantine rites tend to retain more of the ecumenical canon. I'm not sure re: the Oriental rites.
However, there is also a difference in the sequence of the books and the annotations between the ecumenical and catholic editions.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Bruce Gordon in reports that King James similarly made printing the Bishops Bible illegal in England because he did not like resistance to the new King James translation. The Bishops Bible continued to be printed in other countries and smuggled into England.
I think some of King James staff now work at Bellingham. No Bishops Bible!! Geneva, well, ok.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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