Biblia.com beta is live!
"Biblia.com is your place for Bible study online. Part of a family of services from Logos Bible Software, it offers free access to a collection of Bibles and Bible reference works, with an easy user interface and powerful search engine."
The beta version is live now at http://www.biblia.com.
Biblia represents a change in direction from the "beta" version of http://library.logos.com?beta=true, with a design made for the web, not transplanted from desktop software. Eventually we see it as a replacement for http://bible.logos.com as well. (Both of these other sites will remain live for the indefinite future, though.)
If you sign in to Biblia.com with your Logos.com account you'll find much of your library already available. In coming weeks and months you'll find new features and unique content here as well.
Logos is preparing for a future of more social interaction around Bible study -- shared notes, reading the Bible in community, small group networks, etc. Our plan is that Biblia.com can be a portal to content (published and user-created) for users who don't yet use desktop Bible software, or who need web-based access to complement their primarily mobile (iPhone/iPad, etc.) use.
We'd love to hear your thoughts, as well as bug reports and feedback on various machines and browsers.
Thanks!
-- Bob
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Thanks Bob, but the link is broken.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Lynden Williams said:
Thanks Bob, but the link is broken.
Type the address in instead of clicking on the link and it will come up for you.
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Bob Pritchett said:
If you sign in to Biblia.com with your Logos.com account you'll find much of your library already available. In coming weeks and months you'll find new features and unique content here as well.
So you're determined to go the cloud route ?
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Bob Pritchett said:
e'd love to hear your thoughts, as well as bug reports and feedback on various machines and browsers.
THe experience on my iPad was less than effective, running it on my MBP and Safari 5 it is nice and snappy.
Observation:
The split view only seems to accept bibles on the left and commentaries on the right. I will more often have two bibles open, than a commentary and a bible.
The search feature is nice and quick, but there is no way that I can see to refine the search to a smaller subset of a bible (OT, NT, Gospels etc.)
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George Somsel said:
So you're determined to go the cloud route ?
I think this has been a given for a long time. This basic a design decision rarely changes this far into development; I would be very concerned if it did change. However, until we see user-developed materials on Biblia.com we don't know the shape of this portion of "cloud" computing. Don't read too much or too little into this announcement.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Bob Pritchett said:
Our plan is that Biblia.com can be a portal to content (published and user-created) for users who don't yet use desktop Bible software, or who need web-based access to complement their primarily mobile (iPhone/iPad, etc.) use.
MJ. Smith said:However, until we see user-developed materials on Biblia.com we don't know the shape of this portion of "cloud" computing. Don't read too much or too little into this announcement
IMHO, Cloud computing as a complement to a desktop is the best of both worlds.
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Tried to go from Genesis to James in the Bible, but it kept reverting to Genesis. Unable to scroll through available commentaries or the selected commentary. I'm using my iPad. Looks interesting.
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Sorry guys, we don't have the site working correctly in mobile safari yet. Hopefully it's not too far off, but we have a lot to do at the moment
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Tried scrolling through a commentary (NIGTC Philippians) and sometimes the text wouldn't appear or only a line or two would.
Also, the right-hand side entry field didn't seem to work. I tried a bible reference in a commentary and a topic in a dictionary and neither worked.
This was in Firefox 3.6
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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Terry Poperszky said:
IMHO, Cloud computing as a complement to a desktop is the best of both worlds.
I agree.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:Terry Poperszky said:
IMHO, Cloud computing as a complement to a desktop is the best of both worlds.
I agree.
So long as it remains a COMPLEMENT and not a substitute.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Todd Phillips said:
Also, the right-hand side entry field didn't seem to work. I tried a bible reference in a commentary and a topic in a dictionary and neither worked.
Am also in FF 3.6 and the same behavior. The navigation box doesn't work on the RHS. When scrolling it sometimes displays the reference and other times the page number. Better to stick with the reference style that was entered into the box.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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The navigation box does not work correctly in the Cambridge Paragraph KJV. I can navigate within books of the Bible with it, but if I type in the reference for another book it won't go there. It stays where it is and changes back the reference in the reference box.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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George Somsel said:MJ. Smith said:Terry Poperszky said:
IMHO, Cloud computing as a complement to a desktop is the best of both worlds.
I agree.
So long as it remains a COMPLEMENT and not a substitute.
For the foreseeable future it will - but that is computer technology "foreseeable"
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
George, you were off the forums (at least not visible) for a while. Let's not get into this again. Flogging a dead, rotten horse ... I think it's almost skeletal -- is getting redundant, repetative, duplicative
NO - the issue is NOT dead, its NOT finished, and its NOT over yet.
I'm now even MORE sure I don't want all my user-content in the cloud, readable from any web browser anywhere, without my knowledge and without any kind of log or access records kept (that I can see). Sure, they need my login account and password first, but I'd much rather my user-content stays local.
Please Bob, let me have control of which user-content files are loaded to the cloud!
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JimT said:
NO - the issue is NOT dead, its NOT finished, and its NOT over yet.
No, the issue is not dead; but I'm tired of seeing it popping up in so many threads. To me, it has ceased to be a persistent widow and become a boy calling "wolf". Note that both had valid points but different results.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
... but it's been a good many posts since anyone brought any new argument points or facts to the issue
Well, Bob JUST DID!
He has lifted the "game" on Cloud Usage, but without offering any better answers to protecting user-content.
I love and welcome most of what the company is doing, and I look forward to whatever Biblia.com will bring, but I don't want all my user-content there!!!
(Actually, I'm happy to have much of it there, but as we can't pick which, I have no option but to have NONE. This aspect is a great concern to me, more as a matter of principle, than any current content I have in the Logos software. All the talk of making Notes better is pointless to me, until I can keep selected Notes local.)
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Compared to the beta of Biblia.com, I like Library.Logos.com better. Don't see the benefit of Biblia.com yet, though I'm sure that'll change as it evolves.
Jason Saling
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I like this, Bob. I'm glad that it'll be replacing bible.logos.com.
Very streamlined look.
Thanks for giving us yet another way to access our library.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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JimT - sometimes it is not worth responding to some who continue to look to use inflammatory references and try to control what appears on the forums. You are correct in stating it is not a dead issue...
It is a serious privacy and security issue. Some will just fall in line and never question Team Logos and condemn any that do, however for many who purchased well prior to V4 and the Cloud objectives, they are owed clarification and answers. As long as V3 is kept intact and usable there should be no problems, but if V3 is forsaken, there could be some serious issues for a lot of folks. IE - missionaries in "locked" communities - for them the cloud is a risk and honestly a thoughtless hindrance to their mission. Another to think about is legislation put up by Lieberman - I from CT that would allow the President to shut down certain aspects of the internet under circumstances, who knows where this could lead to...
So let them complain about dead horses, crying wolf, etc... I left the forums because of it, but I was actually the one losing out, because they just kept hammering others as well... V4 has a lot of potential, but also a lot of holes and we have a right to comment as often as we like...
JimT said:MJ. Smith said:... but it's been a good many posts since anyone brought any new argument points or facts to the issue
Well, Bob JUST DID!
He has lifted the "game" on Cloud Usage, but without offering any better answers to protecting user-content.
I love and welcome most of what the company is doing, and I look forward to whatever Biblia.com will bring, but I don't want all my user-content there!!!
(Actually, I'm happy to have much of it there, but as we can't pick which, I have no option but to have NONE. This aspect is a great concern to me, more as a matter of principle, than any current content I have in the Logos software. All the talk of making Notes better is pointless to me, until I can keep selected Notes local.)
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Terry Poperszky said:
Observation:
The split view only seems to accept bibles on the left and commentaries on the right. I will more often have two bibles open, than a commentary and a bible.
Try typing a Bible reference into the search box at the top of the right frame. I did that thinking I'd come to that reference in the commentary displayed and instead it opened a second Bible window.
Dave Housholder
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Mark A. Smith said:
The navigation box does not work correctly in the Cambridge Paragraph KJV.
This is now working.
The reference box on the RHS is still useless.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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David Housholder said:
Try typing a Bible reference into the search box at the top of the right frame. I did that thinking I'd come to that reference in the commentary displayed and instead it opened a second Bible window.
When I first opened up Biblia tonight I noticed that it did this (a second copy of NASB). After pulling in a commentary I can no longer get a Bible in that RH pane.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Frank Sauer said:
we have a right to comment as often as we like..
Of course, and you'd even have my blessing if (a) other threads aren't hijacked and (b) it has a truth in advertising title. Then I (and everyone else) can pick and choose whether to read the thread. I'm more grumpy on the topic than I should be but for several days it seemed that no thread was safe from a security tirade - I think I could have posted a Schultz' Lucy lemonade stand and it would have turned into a security issue[H] <-- me asking for protection money.
But start as many threads as you want, put security, backup or a similar word in the title and I promise I won't complain.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I closed Biblia and reopened it. On the left was the NASB opened to Genesis 1:1. At first the RH pane was blank. In a moment the NICNT volume on Matthew opened to the title page:
I then typed Matthew 2 in the reference box of the commentary:
Hitting Enter this is what I got:
Clicking on the arrow for the drop-down list on the RH panel opened the normal list of commentaries:
I selected the one on Matthew and it opened again to the title page. I typed Matthew 1 in the reference box, hit enter, and nothing happened. It would now not respond to entries in the reference box.
I now scrolled in the commentary to Page xii, reentered Matthew 1, hit enter, and the reference box showed Page v briefly while the panel went blank, then it went back to Page xii. Other references produced the same result.
It isn't working.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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I just tried this using IE 8 (64-bit) version. The above was using Firefox 3.6. I got the exact same result using IE8.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm really not sure if anyone is looking for your blessing as to what they post.... Also this is in sharp contrast to your original post in response to George Somsel, which said nothing about titling or starting new threads, but just jumped on someone who has a question or concern about Cloud computing with comments about beating dead horses and crying wolf... As for you complaining or not, it's your right to complain, but does over step complaints when it is always directed at a someone instead of a something....
MJ. Smith said:Frank Sauer said:we have a right to comment as often as we like..
Of course, and you'd even have my blessing if (a) other threads aren't hijacked and (b) it has a truth in advertising title. Then I (and everyone else) can pick and choose whether to read the thread. I'm more grumpy on the topic than I should be but for several days it seemed that no thread was safe from a security tirade - I think I could have posted a Schultz' Lucy lemonade stand and it would have turned into a security issue
<-- me asking for protection money.But start as many threads as you want, put security, backup or a similar word in the title and I promise I won't complain.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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Jason Saling said:
Compared to the beta of Biblia.com, I like Library.Logos.com better. Don't see the benefit of Biblia.com yet, though I'm sure that'll change as it evolves.
Concur, but perhaps the library beta site ran into an architectural snag. Just really wish I could access my reading plans and work with highlighting/clippings/notes from a desktop browser...for whatever reason, I am unable to log in to the mobile browser via my work BBerry & that interface is less than ideal on a desktop.
I'm looking forward to seeing this develop further capability-wise.
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Frank Sauer said:
but I'm really not sure if anyone is looking for your blessing as to what they post....
I should hope not!
Frank Sauer said:but does over step complaints when it is always directed at a someone instead of a something....
I try to be careful to not pick someone out unless they have violated forum guidelines. I'll go back through my posts and see if I slipped up.
Frank Sauer said:comments about beating dead horses and crying wolf.
Said comment related to effective communication. I thought that a illustration would be the least offensive way of making the point. I always regret it when what I attempted to say is not what is heard - and apologize if I see a way I could have communicated better.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thanks a lot for all the feedback and bug reports!
I have just updated the site with many bug fixes and performance improvements. There are also a couple minor feature additions-- including the always-popular resource count in the resource pickers
Thanks,
Bryan
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Michael Aubrey said:
One star????
Michael,
The rating you see there should be synced from Logos 4. Does it not match?
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Bryan Smith said:
The rating you see there should be synced from Logos 4. Does it not match?
Oh, that's Mark's picture. I was just surprised to see that he had only given it one star!
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Bryan Smith said:
I have just updated the site with many bug fixes and performance improvements. There are also a couple minor feature additions-- including the always-popular resource count in the resource pickers
I haven't been on the site for a while so wanted to check it out today (DSL down for a week). I still can't get anything except Genesis 1. Typing just "Genesis" gives me intro info on Genesis, but I can't get, for example, to Mark 1 or 2 Peter. Just Genesis 1. And the same issue with the right column. I can choose a book, and it will open to the beginning, but typing an entry in the box doesn't seem to do anything.
Dave
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David Housholder said:
I still can't get anything except Genesis 1. Typing just "Genesis" gives me intro info on Genesis, but I can't get, for example, to Mark 1 or 2 Peter
Thanks for the report Dave, this bug should be fixed now.
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Michael Aubrey said:
Missed your comment Michael. Yes one star. Shows that I haven't rated too many of my resources. The one star was an easy way to keep track of certain resources for other purposes.
I just promoted Dr. France to 5 stars, however. We all feel better now.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark A. Smith said:
I just promoted Dr. France to 5 stars, however. We all feel better now.
Whew!!!
France's "big" Matthew is one of a handful of commentaries I've read cover to cover. What a treat!
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