Passage in all versions

Hi All,
How do one run a passage in all versions in V4? Under search, Bible search, if i type the reference John 3:16 & set it to search in all version, all passages. It runs a search but no result. Am i missing something. I can do this easily in V3. Thanks.
Ted.
Dell, studio XPS 7100, Ram 8GB, 64 - bit Operating System, AMD Phenom(mt) IIX6 1055T Processor 2.80 GHZ
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I haven't a clue. I was searching for this same thing the other day. All I found was compare pericope and the version river, and that didn't seem to be all of them.
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You can use the Text Comparison tool for that. It does the work of Passage in All Versions, Parallel Bible Versions, and Compare Parallel Bible Versions from v3.
Just select the versions that you want or create a collection with the versions you want, and select it. Also, deselect the Show Differences "A" on the window. And you get this:
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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One way would be to use the "compare versions" feature. I put it on a tool bar short cut.
go to your passage. click "compare versions" either type in the versions or use a collection; in my case it was "all english bibles"
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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And if you tell 4.0 to open this tab in a floating window you can align the verses in horizontal rows or vertical columns and do a number of other things to compare the texts.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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BTW, there's not an easy way to identify all the English bibles in the library.
I tried "type:bible AND lang:english" but that gives a lot of spurious hits like NA26 and "Novum Testamentum Graece, Varia Lectio (Tischendorf)" and Septuaginta, plus a lot of commentary-provided translations.
I have two English Bibles collections: a small one of primary bibles that was built manually, and a second one where I added a tag to all the bibles I want to be considered English Bibles, and built the collection to included all the books with that tag.
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Mark A. Smith said:
And if you tell 4.0 to open this tab in a floating window you can align the verses in horizontal rows or vertical columns and do a number of other things to compare the texts.
It doesn't have to be a floating window, however you do get a fixed width window if you open it without telling it where to go. If you want horizontal, you can also drag it around the main window to a more appropriate place.
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todd,
here is my list:
type:bible lang:english -message -paul's - noteless -readers
that took care of all and I excluded the message, the NET noteless bible, the NIVR, the "St Paul's epistles" series.
I had no greek bibles included automatically
I use this collection for a LOT of things.
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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Lol...
We don't have a life. At least I don't.
And i pay a lot of attention to: Dave HootOn Todd Philips, and Phil Spitzer!
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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Robert Pavich said:
todd,
here is my list:
type:bible lang:english -message -paul's - noteless -readers
that took care of all and I excluded the message, the NET noteless bible, the NIVR, the "St Paul's epistles" series.
I had no greek bibles included automatically
I use this collection for a LOT of things.
yeah, the reason I went with tags is because I can browse the list in the library with "mytag:englishbible", and I can't browse a Collection in the Library window. I wish we could.
MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540
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Ted Hans said:
Robert Pavich, Todd Phillips, Dave Hooton & Philip Spitzer do you guys work for Logos & actually involved in the design of V4? You guys know a lot about V4, how come!
No, we're just nerds. [8-|]
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Philip, et al. you will be paid with a free crossgrade to L4 based upon your current base package (yay scholars gold!)
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LOL [:D] Yeah well I don't know Philip, I can crash programs for free, but I rarely pay to crash them.
Don't worry though, I won't tell Bob.
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Hi Ted, and others ~
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Melissa
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Melissa Snyder said:
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
This is a great tip if You use english keyboard layout but else not.[:(]
(I have to press twice to get `. First press shift+` and then space (or a letter) to get this tick mark to show up if typing in an document.)
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Melissa Snyder said:
Hi Ted, and others ~
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Melissa
Thanks for the info.
Ted
Dell, studio XPS 7100, Ram 8GB, 64 - bit Operating System, AMD Phenom(mt) IIX6 1055T Processor 2.80 GHZ
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Nice feature!
thanks
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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Ted Hans said:
Robert Pavich, Todd Phillips, Dave Hooton & Philip Spitzer do you guys work for Logos & actually involved in the design of V4? You guys know a lot about V4, how come!
I'm 10-15 hours ahead of these guys which is why I'm always last to post!
I just get involved, but a previous Phil ended up working for Logos[:)]
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Melissa Snyder said:
Hi Ted, and others ~
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Melissa
Is this documented in the help file anywhere? It's a nice feature.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Melissa Snyder said:
Hi Ted, and others ~
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Melissa
That's incredible, Melissa! *smile* Thanks for sharing it.
........Mel
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Mark A. Smith said:
Is this documented in the help file anywhere? It's a nice feature.
It's not in the current Help file. Several keyboard shortcuts have been added to the list, along with a few other revisions, and that updated Help resource will be available soon. A few topics will still be 'under construction', but by the time beta testing is complete, it will cover all functions available at that time.
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Melissa Snyder said:
Hi Ted, and others ~
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Melissa
Bohuslav,
Can You do this with Your keyboard layout?
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I use a UK keyboard and there is a "#" under the "~" on mine.EbbeAndréasson said:Bohuslav,
Can You do this with Your keyboard layout?
I can't check yet because L4 has just performed another download / install and is indexing again!
I think we in Europe have a subtly different keyboard layout with the various punctuations being on different keys. Have you ever tried a French Keyboard - its WILD!!
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IanMcAsey said:
I think we in Europe have a subtly different keyboard layout with the various punctuations being on different keys.
Thats why I think it's important and would be great to find key combinations which will work independent of keyboard layouts.
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I'll second that!
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EbbeAndréasson said:
Thats why I think it's important and would be great to find key combinations which will work independent of keyboard layouts.
Like for instance the F# keys? Aren't they pretty much global?
Let's see F1 is taken for help, F3 for search the rest are open, plus you have the ALT and CTRL keys to modify... the possibilities are endless.
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Melissa Snyder said:
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Bug:
- I've got John 3:16 open in NASB and 1 John 4:10 open in esv. They are side by side.
- Highlight John 3:16 and press the keys it works.
- Click into ESV and highlight my verse hit the keys and it doesn't work, I get the system sound (bong).
- Click back into NASB and try again, nope doesn't work (bong).
- In fact unless I click in, scroll a line or two up and down and then try again it will not work. And sometimes not even then.
It's very touchy, I can't exactly figure out when it will and won't work.
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tcblack said:
It's very touchy, I can't exactly figure out when it will and won't work.
I can't reproduce this. Perhaps try slowing the process down, just to see what might be happening to cause it. You may want to experiment with the Repeat Rate for Keyboard Properties in Control Panel.
Melissa
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Thomas,
it worked fine for me using the same resources you mentioned and the same passage.
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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Well now I can't reproduce it either. Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that I'd had it open for something around 24 hours? I'll pay attention next time I run into it.
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Melissa Snyder said:
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Thanks, Melissa, for the tip. When I do it, however, I only get the top 3 prioritized Bibles, not five. Why is that?
Charlene
Charlene
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tcblack said:
Let's see F1 is taken for help, F3 for search the rest are open, plus you have the ALT and CTRL keys to modify
Don't forget F8 is drawing mode, and F11 is reading mode.
CTRL-F4 closes a pane; Alt-F4 closes a Window/program.
F10 makes a menu active. In L4 it usually activates the "Home Page"
button. Press F10 and Enter and the Home page appears ( doesn't seem
consistent and I don't know why anyone would want to do this.)There are probably a few other not-yet documented/implemented function key combos present, or on the way.
BTW, F3 doesn't enter search mode in L4 (at least not for me), it will only find the next instance of a current search.
Used as Windows conventions, but apparently not implemented in L4:
F5 refreshes the screen in almost all browsers and some programs.
CTRL-F6 is used by most Windows programs to switch the active pane in the current program.
So the possibilities aren't endless, but there should be some combination that would work and could be assigned to a function key for this simple operation.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Thanks Rich,
There's a few I didn't know about! F10 does the menu? Cool!
But you also demonstrate the point, there's so much of the function keys unused, and yet for some reason software developers seldom attempt to use them.
To summarize
F1 = help | (+modifiers = nothing)
F2 = | (+modifiers = nothing)
F3 = Next search result | (+Ctrl = prior search result) | (+alt= )
F4 = | (+ctrl = close pane) | (+alt = close program)
F5 = refresh | (+modifiers = nothing)
F6 = | (+Ctrl = switch active pane)
F7 = | (+modifiers = nothing)
F8 = Draw | (+modifiers = nothing)
F9 = | (+modifiers = nothing)
F10 =menu | (+modifiers = nothing)
F11 = reading mode | (+modifiers = nothing)
F12 = | (+modifiers = nothing)
Modifiers can be CTRL / ALT / SHFT / CTRL+ALT / SHFT+CTRL / SHF+ALT / CTRL+ALT+SHFT That means every key has 8 possibilities X12 keys = 96 itterations.
Not quite endless as you said, but still that's pretty impressive, and most softwares don't ship with near 100 keyboard shortcuts.
Best part IMHO is that a simple template can be printed out and cut to be placed over the F keys to quickly demonstrate all the shortcuts. Remember when that used to happen all the time?
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tcblack said:
Not quite endless as you said, but still that's pretty impressive, and most softwares don't ship with near 100 keyboard shortcuts.
[mount shaky soap box]]Unless you use WordPerfect, [;)] which has been exploiting all of these (and making them able to be fully remapped by the user) since MS-DOS days. [/mount shaky soap box]
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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I remember those days. I remember in having 4 or five templates and each was used when working a different program.tcblack said:Best part IMHO is that a simple template can be printed out and cut to be placed over the F keys to quickly demonstrate all the shortcuts. Remember when that used to happen all the time?
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Melissa Snyder said:
Hi Ted, and others ~
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Melissa
With Alt+` or Text Comparison I only show four Bibles even though I have many more prioritized. Any idea why?
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Ed Jent said:
With Alt+` or Text Comparison I only show four Bibles even though I have many more prioritized. Any idea why?
The Text Comparison tool will display only the Bibles you've entered in the Reference box. You can add to the list by typing the Bible names or abbreviations with commas inbetween.
The Alt+` keyboard shortcut will display up to five Bibles, beginning with the Bible that is open in the active panel, then by priority.
Melissa
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Richard DeRuiter said:
Used as Windows conventions, but apparently not implemented in L4:
F5 refreshes the screen in almost all browsers and some programs.
In L4, F5 does refresh the home page. Don't like the book of the day? hit F5.....
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Melissa Snyder said:
Hi Ted, and others ~
You can also do a quick compare of the current reference with your top five prioritized Bibles by pressing Alt+` (that's the tick mark below tilde(~). If you select a passage with multiple verses and press Alt+`, all the verses will be compared and displayed, along with a scrollbar on the right if necessary.
Melissa
Not until today I realize this keyboard shortcut is replaced by F7 key. Thank you Logos for listening every time and trying to do your very best in all situations.
You made an great app!!! [W] [^] [Y] [:D]
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EbbeAndréasson said:
I realy hope this flower look like this "by design" and not is begun to wither. [:$]
You are worthy fresh flowers!
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