I am curious to know How much dollars some one could have invested to logos Bible software.

Tes
Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I am just wondering with this precious Bible software ,how much money one has invested,because it speaks how much the software is valued to him or to her. I have invested almost 4000.00 USD, If I had more money I would not hesitate to spend even if it is thousands of dollars.The love of God'Word values the software.

Blessings in Christ.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,207

    Tes, you may not get an enthusiastic response as this could be a private/sensitive matter for some (like me!).

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  • Shawn  Drewett
    Shawn Drewett Member Posts: 555 ✭✭

    No problem for me, I've invested about $2500.00 over the years.

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    how much money one has invested,because it speaks how much the software is valued to him or to her

    It speaks of two things:

    • How much the software is valued
    • How much money is available to spend

    One person's $100 on Logos may be more 'costly' than another person's $10,000.

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  • Eric Weiss
    Eric Weiss Member Posts: 948 ✭✭✭

    Too much! [:D]

    Started with Scholar's Silver ($800?), then upgraded at discount to Logos 3 Gold (OC) ($400?), then upgraded at discount to Logos 4 Platinum ($464), plus (per my account and order history): $2,155 in orders, $95 pending in Community Pricing, and $1,435* pending in Pre-Pubs; plus one Camp Logos, several Morris Proctor manuals, plus some other training CDs = a grand total of what will be close to $6,000, it seems.

    Plus the cost of a laptop sometime next year so I can use all the above during my work commute so it will be more part of my life and not just a hobby.

    * $700 (i.e., nearly 1/2) of the Pre-Pub is for the upcoming Logos commentary series, which I may reconsider after seeing a promised preview.

    On the face of it, Logos has been an expen$ive hobby for me, but since it's pretty much my only hobby, it's not too bad when you figure the monthly cost over all the years.

    I hope Logos again has a $1 each sale on its:

    • Logos Insulated Travel Mug
    • Logos Clear Glass Mug
    • Logos T-shirt: Binary Logo
    • Logos Stainless Steel Mug
    • Logos Water Bottle—Blue Polycarbonate/Stainless Steel

    I'd definitely order some coffee mugs, as the Logos Clear Glass Mug is my favorite of all our coffee cups, and is the best clear glass mug I've found anywhere. (Though I'd like some plain ones without the Logos Logo.)

    Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)

  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    Been using Logos since mid 90's....stopped counting after $15K a few years back (probably over 20K now - guessing). Overall, don't regret any of it. As you say, "The love of God's Word values to software."

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  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭

    One person's $100 on Logos may be more 'costly' than another person's $10,000.

    That is exactly so. I am not sure Tes, if your question can get right answer for you, if you would like to see how valuable software is for anyone of us. Dollars are not exactly the only criteria. The way we use the software, the amount of books we read, not only have in our library etc. etc.

    Bohuslav

  • Abi Gail
    Abi Gail Member Posts: 172 ✭✭

    Tes said:

    The love of God'Word values the software.

    The amount of money I spend on resources has less to do with how much I love God's Word, And more about how much I love myself... How I give in to my wants and wishes ... My addictions. [:S]

    ~

  • Timothy Ha
    Timothy Ha Member Posts: 431 ✭✭

    I've been with Logos 3 and 4 since 2008 (previously only had Discipleship Journal in Logos 2.1, and some E4 discs).

    And I've been constantly asking Logos to show the totals in the My Account section of the website.

    Now the totals are there, and I think I've spent quite a lot -- couldn't imagine Prepubs and Community Pricing can take that much when I first saw the amount :-)

    But I have no regrets on this.

    Still exploring the vast amount of resources and still purchasing, it seems.

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  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    I am not taking as a proportional the amount of money spent to the love of God nor do I mean the less money one has invested has less value to the Software,what I mean is simply, how much one could have invested based to software out of his needs for it .

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Too much! Big Smile


    Not enough!            image           

    Tes said:

    how much one could have invested based to software out of his needs for it .

    You got me there, Tes. God has met all my needs and many of my wants. I certainly have been blessed with more Logos than I need.

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • Eric Weiss
    Eric Weiss Member Posts: 948 ✭✭✭

    Abi Gail said:


    Tes said:

    The love of God'Word values the software.

    The amount of money I spend on resources has less to do with how much I love God's Word, And more about how much I love myself... How I give in to my wants and wishes ... My addictions. Tongue Tied


     

    +1

    Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)

  • David Paul
    David Paul Member Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭

    According to the Logos tally that is on my Orders page (and this number actually catches me by surprise) I've ponied up nearly $11K (I'm within spitting distance of that amount) since they began to track my current account. I probably would have guessed $7-8K, but obviously smallish purchases add up over time. I have about $10.5K in PrePubs in the pipe (but much of that is probably in a perpetual "Gathering Interest" state). I have over $1K in CP items in the pipe. Also, I probably spent at least $1K with Logos under my old account, which is when I got the original Scholar's bundle [with the cool tie--the best chachki (tchotchke) Logos has offered so far, IMO)].

    A year or so before Gold first came out, I think, I added up the items I wanted at that time and it came to over $18K, and I had only spent $3-4K at that time, I would guess. Some of those items I ended up picking up when I bought Portfolio, but I'm sure there's plenty of other things from years-gone-by that I would like to add. I am beginning to become more selective. I have a few things I consider must-haves, like the Talmud, but I am reaching the point where I am not going to buy large amounts of other resources unless I get them at ultra-good discounts. As I said/griped in another thread, the currently offered Master Collection is what I have in mind (the value is exactly what drives my interest and desire to purchase). But as I also said, I won't ever bother considering that collection because it's loaded with hundreds of resources I already own. I want to pick up big value collections WHICH I HAVEN'T ALREADY PARTIALLY BOUGHT ONCE OR TWICE. Since Bob has already admitted that a tiny portion of Logos users account for a large portion of its sales (and I assume I am in that number) I hope that they will put forth the effort to create the kind of collections I'm looking for--the primary consideration being stuff that isn't already in the Portfolio.

    My suggestion, on a number of occasions, has been a "make your own" collection with a corresponding percentage-off increase as the $ amount increases. I have already shown my willingness to drop big bucks if I can get BIG value. But getting scads of worthless items along with already purchased items greatly diminishes the perceived value of the current seasonal collections on offer...at least for me.

    I will also say here that the 50% off piecemeal offer that is currently on the table just doesn't jog my interest. I am a bulk value purchaser, in general, and so I want to get that kind of value in the majority of my future Logos purchases.

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  • Randy O'Brien
    Randy O'Brien Member Posts: 54 ✭✭

    It is hard to imagine the value of my library, but one way to calculate it was surprising to me. I took my total invested and divided by the number of sermons I have preached since the time I started with logos and then divided by the average number of listeners. Although my investment is fairly large it amounts to just pennies per Sunday per listener. I think that's a pretty fair deal. They get fresh material and I am blessed to stay current with newly published resources.

  • James Matichuk
    James Matichuk Member Posts: 114 ✭✭

    I have spent a fair bit in Logos, and more for books I have in print. I like the Logos platform and the ease of use for, particularly, commentaries and reference works, but I regard my 'investment' as my whole library which has helped shape my theology and exegetical practices. Logos is a great tool which is part of my overall investment. 

    I also have books in print and in Logos, which I regret buying. So while purchases might show something about where my values are, they might also show where I am simply being rash in my purchases. 

     

     

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭

    A more informative question might be, "How much have I spent that I'm not using?"

    The upgrade to Platinum was worthwhile as I'm using more than enough to address that. But I suspect I've wasted > $100 on stuff I'm not using: Community Pricing stuff that seemed cheap, specials (including Christmas collection) where I had not really checked out the authors and so on.

    I don't feel guilty for what I've spent on Logos resources that I use, but I really do try to critique myself on purchases that I don't end up using adequtely.

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    I don't feel guilty for what I've spent on Logos resources that I use, but I really do try to critique myself on purchases that I don't end up using adequtely.

    I know what you mean. I have found some titles may just sit there on the proverbial digital shelf for a long time and when I least expect it, I have a sudden need or interest in that specific vein. Many folk travel light (like the Rechabites in Jeremiah 35:6-10 ) and some people like myself leave a wide footprint on the land wherein they dwell.(as in Jeremiah 29:5-7 ) As long as I get a better deal buying on sale and in bulk (Portfolio Edition or Christmas 2010 Master Collection) I don't mind the extra weight in my pocket size hard disk drive. [C]

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  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Hi,Brothers and sisters ,may you please tell me ,what the alphabet "k" means?( Which is mentioned as "11k")

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Timothy Ha
    Timothy Ha Member Posts: 431 ✭✭

    I think it means thousands (of dollars), but it could also mean the weight growth caused by using Logos all the time :-)

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    Hi,Brothers and sisters ,may you please tell me ,what the alphabet "k" means?( Which is mentioned as "11k")

    kilo = thousand

     

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  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    Hi,Brothers and sisters ,may you please tell me ,what the alphabet "k" means?( Which is mentioned as "11k")

    Yes Timothy is right.  K=Thousand as in "Kilo" (Kilometer etc.)  It's just a bit of shorthand. 

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:

    Hi,Brothers and sisters ,may you please tell me ,what the alphabet "k" means?( Which is mentioned as "11k")

    Yes Timothy is right.  K=Thousand as in "Kilo" (Kilometer etc.)  It's just a bit of shorthand. 

    Thank you Timothy and Thomas.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭

    I try to not think about how much I have spent.  It helps me stay in denial so I can continue my addiction to Logos products.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Tes, you may not get an enthusiastic response as this could be a private/sensitive matter for some (like me!).

    I don't think anything ,which keeps some one not to.why?

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Otto S. Carroll
    Otto S. Carroll Member Posts: 693 ✭✭

    I try to not think about how much I have spent.  It helps me stay in denial so I can continue my addiction to Logos products.

    +1 [Y]

     

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  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    One person's $100 on Logos may be more 'costly' than another person's $10,000.

    That is exactly so. I am not sure Tes, if your question can get right answer for you, if you would like to see how valuable software is for anyone of us. Dollars are not exactly the only criteria. The way we use the software, the amount of books we read, not only have in our library etc. etc.

    It is fine.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Gary Butner, Th.D.
    Gary Butner, Th.D. Member Posts: 483 ✭✭

    I have been a Logos user since 1995, and I suspect I have spent at least $15,000 during that time. I don't regret it for a second, since I really don't have any hobbies. Love for Christ and His written Word makes the cost insignificent.

  • Josh
    Josh Member Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭

    The totals we are looking at in this thread surely don't represent the average Logos user. I, too, have spent thousands. I'll admit I have not bought everything from Logos, so it is hard to get a firm number from just my Logos.com orders page.

    One thing is for sure God provides the resources we need for his work.For some that may only be a KJV Bible. We are extremely blessed to have the ability and means to own Logos.

    I wonder what the average Logos 4 user has spent. Probably just a base package.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,835

    I, too, (or more accurately my congregation) have spend much more on Logos resources than I might have imagined. It ispretty easy to do isn't it?

    Yet at the same time I haven't spent the equivalent of a single year's cost for college with that amount, nor anywhere near the cost of my salary and housing for a single year. And I have resources, quality resources, that will not wear out nor lose their value to me. I really think I have gotten a bargain, and I hope the people I teach, preach to, and lead year after year know they have benefited from it.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Tes said:


    I am just wondering with this precious Bible software ,how much money one has invested,because it speaks how much the software is valued to him or to her. I have invested almost 4000.00 USD, If I had more money I would not hesitate to spend even if it is thousands of dollars.The love of God'Word values the software.


    In the words of Nathan Hale "I only regret that I have but one bank account to use for Logos."  [U]

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    gfsomsel

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  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭

    I, too, (or more accurately my congregation) have spend much more on Logos resources than I might have imagined. It ispretty easy to do isn't it?

    Yet at the same time I haven't spent the equivalent of a single year's cost for college with that amount, nor anywhere near the cost of my salary and housing for a single year. And I have resources, quality resources, that will not wear out nor lose their value to me. I really think I have gotten a bargain, and I hope the people I teach, preach to, and lead year after year know they have benefited from it.

    Well said Mark. [Y]

    Bohuslav

  • Jim VanSchoonhoven
    Jim VanSchoonhoven Member Posts: 579 ✭✭

    The cost of Logos is small compared to the growth in the knowledge of the Lord that I have from by faith using this tool to better understand God's Word.

    I have been selective from the start and I have spent a little over 3000.00 on Logos resources, which is way less than many would spend on a year of Seminary.  I am working on my DTH and the bible study program is worth more to me than going to school.  I have a great set of language tools, great history and background books, the whole set of theological journals, good maps, many Greek and Hebrew based commentaries and the best  program to find the materials I need!

    Yes, I love books, but I don't need that many more good books to have a well rounded research program to help me study almost any area I want to. I would like to spend about another 2000.00 picking up a few more books, like the set of commentaries that were on sale today!!!

    I praise the Lord for how He has used Logos in my life!   I am constantly in pain from being hit by a truck, so I can not get out much, Logos provides me with hours of joy learning more about Jesus when I can't have contact with the rest of the body like I would like too!

    In Christ,

    Jim VanSchoonhoven

  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

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    Congratulations Tes, That is 1000 very interesting posts. It is quite appropriate it should be about what "1K" means. [:)]

    Tes said:

     K=Thousand as in "Kilo" (Kilometer etc.)  It's just a bit of shorthand. 

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  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Love for Christ and His written Word makes the cost insignificent

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    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    We are extremely blessed to have the ability and means to own Logos

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    Amen.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    And I have resources, quality resources, that will not wear out nor lose their value to me.

    Praise the Lord!

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    The cost of Logos is small compared to the growth in the knowledge of the Lord that I have from by faith using this tool to better understand God's Word.

    I praise the Lord for how He has used Logos in my life! 

    Praise the Lord!

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    I can't tell you how your preciouses words have blessed me.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

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    Congratulations Tes, That is 1000 very interesting posts. It is quite appropriate it should be about what "1K" means. Smile

    Tes said:

     K=Thousand as in "Kilo" (Kilometer etc.)  It's just a bit of shorthand. 

    Thank you Mathew,you are one of those who take the credit.It shows how much I am being helped.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,621

    Yet at the same time I haven't spent the equivalent of a single year's cost for college with that amount

    When I looked at my total on the Logos website, I thought "Wow, that much!". Thanks for putting things into perspective.

    $12K+ looks like a lot or money to me, but then the US Government spends more than that every second, and mine was spent for useful things. [8-|]

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    $12K+ looks like a lot or money to me, but then the US Government spends more than that every second, and mine was spent for useful things

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    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    God has met all my needs and many of my wants. I certainly have been blessed with more Logos than I need.

    God bless you all,it was a great thanks giving.I am so blessed by every statement you have made. To God be the glory.We thank God for Logos.and it is my prayer to do more blessings.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Mathew Haferkamp
    Mathew Haferkamp Member Posts: 459 ✭✭

    If the question could be rephrased, How many books are enough?  Just one more book!!!

  • Edwin Bowden
    Edwin Bowden Member Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭


    If the question could be rephrased, How many books are enough?  Just one more book!!!


    But then, did you hear about the new book that's about to be released that's even better?

  • Danny Baskin
    Danny Baskin Member Posts: 221 ✭✭

    Sometimes I think many of us are insane! But this stuff is so good! And, of course, it's only money! Ha!

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Sometimes I think many of us are insane! But this stuff is so good! And, of course, it's only money! Ha!

    You are right.When it is about purchasing resources ,which are essential for my studies  I could see that money submits to the purpose of its meaning.

    Praise the Lord.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Matt W
    Matt W Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    Even with the Platinum package and a few commentaries, it is only a small fraction of what I pay for seminary.  I don't know how I got through my classes before logos.

    I get so much more out of class when I can look up commentaries and original languages on the spot.  I love the efficiency and ease of being able to search 4-5 of the top commentaries for a particular passage in the time it takes my profs to find the right book on the shelf.  This software has saved me countless hours in studies and pastoral duties.  I have spent thousands, but when I factor in the time saved and the edge it gives me in class, I have saved much more.

    Merry Christmas!

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Matt W said:

    Even with the Platinum package and a few commentaries, it is only a small fraction of what I pay for seminary.  I don't know how I got through my classes before logos.

    I get so much more out of class when I can look up commentaries and original languages on the spot.  I love the efficiency and ease of being able to search 4-5 of the top commentaries for a particular passage in the time it takes my profs to find the right book on the shelf.  This software has saved me countless hours in studies and pastoral duties.  I have spent thousands, but when I factor in the time saved and the edge it gives me in class, I have saved much more.

    Merry Christmas!

    I have been using quickvese and Pc study Bible ,they are good,but the time I have seen and started to use logos ,I could only express my amazement .  just like queen Sheba,What she said ,when she saw  the wisdom of King Solomon.

    Blessings in Christ.

  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭

    More then a new car cost back in 1972!