Searching Strong's keyed versions by number

Corby Stephens
Corby Stephens Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I'm an old-school Online Bible for Mac user and I'm really trying to learn Logos. It's hard and frustrating to learn something new like this. One of the things I do a lot in OLB and is very simple to do is to bring up a search window, type in a Strong's number, and you get a list of every passage where that word occurs. It's as simple as Command-F, type number, hit Return and bam, there it is.

I can't figure out how to do this in Logos. As I said it's key to the way I study (primarily an exegetical guy). I've seriously considered trying to sell this to someone else because I can't figure out how to do the simplest things, or what I'm used to doing in a simple way.

Can someone help me out?

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,185

    One of the things I do a lot in OLB and is very simple to do is to bring up a search window, type in a Strong's number, and you get a list of every passage where that word occurs.

    I'm a Windows user, so the following may not apply to the Mac.

    Open the KJV and click on a (English) word to bring up a context menu in which you may see a Strong's number. Select that and another "menu" appears, choose "Speed Search this Resource" and you have your list of passages! Alternatively, you might see "Englishman's Concordance:" with the Strong's number, so select that to get a similar list.

    Some Greek resources have Strong's numbers and you can still do the Speed Search with the Strong's number.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • David Waldmann
    David Waldmann Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    Thanks for the reply to someone else's problem that was the same as mine. I don't know why I didn't think to look for help on the forum sooner, as I was frustrated with this "shortcoming" as well.

    [Y]

  • Robert Pavich
    Robert Pavich Member Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭

    One thing to add to this particular conversation is this: using Strong's numbers is actually not necessary anymore.

    It WAS in the days before Reverse Interlinears...but now you can access the original languages without going through that extra step...

    Robert Pavich

    For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__


  • Thanks for the reply to someone else's problem that was the same as mine. I don't know why I didn't think to look for help on the forum sooner, as I was frustrated with this "shortcoming" as well.

    Yes

    Welcome to the Logos Forums [:D]

    One thing to add to this particular conversation is this: using Strong's numbers is actually not necessary anymore.

    It WAS in the days before Reverse Interlinears...but now you can access the original languages without going through that extra step...

    Logos for Mac 1.2.2 has Reverse Interlinear Bibles so can search for Lemma without needing Strong's number:

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    Right click on word in Reverse Interlinear, click "Selected Text", click (Lemma), click "Speed Search This Resource", which found 51 Occurrences (same results as searching for Strong's Hebrew # 7225).

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • David Waldmann
    David Waldmann Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    Ok, searching Lemma is even quicker, and I prefer the results layout.
    But how do you search for two words in the same verse? Using the first
    method shown I got <GreekStrongs = Strong’s Greek #37> in the
    search bar, so I tried <GreekStrongs = Strong’s Greek #37> AND
    <GreekStrongs = Strong’s Greek #40> and got results, but they were
    not what I expected, as it seemed to find chapters with the words, not verses, and they were arranged differently than normal search results - with the sort options of Ranked, By Title and By Count.

    I
    found that I can use the Lemma search and copy the Greek from the
    resulting search bar and then add it to another search, i.e. <Lemma =
    lbs/el/ἅγιος> AND <Lemma = lbs/el/ἁγιάζω>, but that's a bit
    awkward (I don't know Greek or have a Greek keyboard to type it in
    myself). Any suggestions for making this type of search more
    streamlined?

    BTW, I'm not sure if I'm in the right place - I see the forum name is Logos 1, is that version 1? I'm on version 4.2...

    Thanks!

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,263

    Hi David

    nd got results, but they were
    not what I expected, as it seemed to find chapters with the words, not verses, and they were arranged differently than normal search results - with the sort options of Ranked, By Title and By Count.

    This is how the "Basic" search operates as opposed to the "Bible" one - try clicking on Bible at the top-right of the search window.

    (I don't know Greek or have a Greek keyboard to type it in
    myself). Any suggestions for making this type of search more
    streamlined?

    You can enter Greek text using transliteration as per Option 2 of http://wiki.logos.com/How_to_enter_text_in_Greek_and_Hebrew. Option 1 at this page shows how you can get a Greek keyboard if that would help.

    BTW, I'm not sure if I'm in the right place - I see the forum name is Logos 1, is that version 1? I'm on version 4.2...

    Yes, this is not the best forum for this discussion. Suggest you start a new thread in either the Logos 4 or Logos 4 Mac forums

    Hope this helps,

    Graham

  • David Waldmann
    David Waldmann Member Posts: 4 ✭✭