Christmas Sale Credits - Getting 70%+ Off

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311504#Comment_311504

Yes ... but for me, it works out well since I tend to purchase regular items anyway, especially 'singles'. I don't go for the collections, etc. So, for all practical purposes, it's a $2,500 kitty that has a 40% discounnt (in my example above).

But for many, future credits that can't be applied to pre-pub or community pricing would be a bit of a crimp on the calculation.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311521#Comment_311521

So, AYB is $1900 and the credit is 30%, so the net is $1330. I like that!

And if you beg your salesperson, you just might secure a better deal.

But for many, future credits that can't be
applied to pre-pub or community pricing would be a bit of a crimp on
the calculation.

We have March Madness coming up. And knowing the Sales Department like I do, it will be easy to burn that LogosCash credit on resources other than CP & Pre-Pubs.

BillS

So far, I haven't bought anything & have saved 100%. [8-|]

Brother Mark

So far, I haven't bought anything & have saved 100%.

There's an elegance to the way Bill thinks....

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311521#Comment_311521

So far, I haven't bought anything & have saved 100%.

My last 2 orders with Vyrso have totaled $ 0.00 that was paid with 100 % saving.

Thankful God already knows what really need plus appropriate time frame. [8-|]

Keep Smiling [:)]

The discount (i.e., Logos credit) is nothing to scoff at. However, it seems a bit misleading to call the discount 40%. If one were to spend exactly $2500, one would basically receive $3500 worth of Logos merchandise, right? So the discount on the $3500 (i.e., $1000) is approximately 28.6%. Again, nothing to scoff at.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311572#Comment_311572

You're right Paul. Missed that calculation!

From what I can see, for people that want to 'run down the aisles' and pick up everything Logos put on the 'no' list, this would be it.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311579#Comment_311579

It's that little "sleight of hand" (it looks like 40% but it's really 28.6%, for example) that troubles people, I think.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311572#Comment_311572

Hi Paul

The discount (i.e., Logos credit) is nothing to scoff at. However, it seems a bit misleading to call the discount 40%. If one were to spend exactly $2500, one would basically receive $3500 worth of Logos merchandise, right? So the discount on the $3500 (i.e., $1000) is approximately 28.6%. Again, nothing to scoff at.

I don't read it that way.

The website says (for the $2500 case)

Spend $2,500 to $4,999.99 on qualifying products, and you’ll get 40% of your total in Logos.com credit (up to $2000).

So you spend $2,500, you get 40% of that total spend which is $1,000 which you can then use for other purchases.

Am I missing your point?

Graham

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311587#Comment_311587

Graham ... he's just saying that if you bought 'all' the resource needed to fulfill the 'deal' (the $2500 PLUS the credit), and then compared the total 'regular' vs actuallly paid, the discount would be approx 28% for a 40% credit. That's true (but doesn't imply Logos mistated).

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311593#Comment_311593

Graham ... he's just saying that if you bought 'all' the resource needed to fulfill the 'deal' (the $2500 PLUS the credit), and then compared the total 'regular' vs actuallly paid, the discount would be approx 28% for a 40% credit. That's true (but doesn't imply Logos mistated).

It's true (provided the numbers are correct, I didn't recalc) only in the sense that this is the minimum additional discount you get. Of course you could apply the Logos credit to pay discounted resources, thus receiving more than the face value of the 1000$ "Logos Cash"

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311593#Comment_311593

Graham ... he's just saying that if you bought 'all' the resource needed to fulfill the 'deal' (the $2500 PLUS the credit), and then compared the total 'regular' vs actuallly paid, the discount would be approx 28% for a 40% credit. That's true (but doesn't imply Logos mistated).

Exactly. Logos could go this route: Spend $3500 and we'll deduct $1000 from the price. That's a 28.6% discount. They chose, instead, to go this route: Spend $2500 and get 40% of the amount in Logos credit. The 40% jumps out at the customer who, if they're like me, will at first think, "That's great! I'm saving 40%!" But, in fact, I'm not.

nicky crane

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311629#Comment_311629

What products qualify?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311643#Comment_311643

Nicky ... on the blog there's a reference to a PDF that you can download and read (don't want to repeat since I'll likely get it wrong!!).

Here's the related paragraph:

Here’s an example: if you spend $1,260 on qualifying products in the month of December, you will earn 30% of that in Logos.com credit. After the promotion ends, you’ll receive $378 in Logos.com credit to spend whenever you want on Logos.com products (some restrictions apply; see the details).

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311629#Comment_311629

Exactly. Logos could go this route: Spend $3500 and we'll deduct $1000 from the price.

No, that would not achieve the same results. If you buy $3500 in resources under your restated plan, you only contribute $2500 to the Logos coffers. The way the program is currently structured, you contribute $3500 to the Logos coffers. And when you go to spend that $1000 credit who says your dream resource will be on sale? The ICC super sale ended the day before this sales incentive started [:(]. That was strategic timing.

This promotion is perfectly crafted for purchasing resources that have already gone to publication. We get to choose what is on sale.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311533#Comment_311533

So far, I haven't bought anything & have saved 100%.
There's an elegance to the way Bill thinks....

I just don't know Brother Mark, if I agree with you, I will have to tell my wife her thinking is elegant too. That would have dire consequences on my December Logos sales participation.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311650#Comment_311650

No, that would not achieve the same results. If you buy $3500 in resources under your restated plan, you only contribute $2500 to the Logos coffers. The way the program is currently structured, you contribute $3500 to the Logos coffers. And when you go to spend that $1000 credit who says your dream resource will be on sale? The ICC super sale ended the day before this sales incentive started . That was strategic timing.

This promotion is perfectly crafted for purchasing resources that have already gone to publication. We get to choose what is on sale.

I'm not a Math whiz, so maybe I'm mistaken. But I think in both instances, I'd be contributing $2500 to the Logos coffer. In both instances, I'd also be receiving $3500 worth of merchandise. The only difference is in the marketing pitch.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311655#Comment_311655

Well, I 'went shopping' and disaster struck as it often does when you're on Logos.com.

I stumbled into the UBS Handbooks which I've wanted from day one. I know they're part of some package that I don't need.

So, let's see. I started out 'Christmas' with maybe a book or two, and now I'm at $2,800 (with a nice credit).

Logos.Marketing has indeed crafted a way to get my hard-earned plastic (so far, so good ... Michael hasn't commented).

But I still don't see how they're making money (at least the resources I've in mind).

Fabrice

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311655#Comment_311655

And I would add that, actually, even if I buy for $2500 and "get" $1000 ... it's still $2500 on the Logos only. It's not a saving in cash so the amount we buy will fully be invested only on Logos. So it's not really saving money in the sense that we got $1000 cash to buy something alse elsewhere.

Garrett Ho

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311655#Comment_311655

I'm not a Math whiz, so maybe I'm mistaken. But I think in both instances, I'd be contributing $2500 to the Logos coffer. In both instances, I'd also be receiving $3500 worth of merchandise. The only difference is in the marketing pitch.

Logos was very clear this time around. You buy books, you get credit to spend on future books. They don't say that you "save" a percentage, but that you get it back in credit. So to be honest, if people miscalculate, I don't think we can blame Logos for being misleading in their marketing. We may prefer it a different way, but it is pretty straightforward and I think there are good reasons it is structured this way.

To give them the benefit of the doubt, let me also add that I think there is more than just a difference in marketing pitch. If you were to offer tiers of percentage discounts, what would it need to be to exactly match the current deal? The numbers wouldn't be nice and round. Also, how would the discount work? Would Logos retroactively issue a discount on all of the orders in the month of December after they've figured out how much you've spent (in January)? If you returned something and dropped to a lower tier, then every transaction would have to be amended again.

The only reason I post this is to show that sometimes solutions that seem obvious or easy to people are more complicated. Isn't it like that in our churches?

I don't always agree with Logos, and of course I'd prefer a 50% credit without having it only for the people who spend over $5000. But, I'm grateful that there is some discount available to me on top of the 12 Days of Logos sale. Someone will have more benefit this Christmas than I will from the structure of the discounts, and I am happy for them.

BillS

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311545#Comment_311545

My last 2 orders with Vyrso have totaled $ 0.00 that was paid with 100 % saving.

Same here... suppose I should've said thanks, so THANK YOU Logos.

Thankful God already knows what really need plus appropriate time frame.

Amen! Preach it, brother (or sister).

Alexander

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311572#Comment_311572

Actually the math above violates mathematical principles. If you take $2,500 total spent and multiply it by 0.40 you would get $1,000. That is the correct amount of money that you get back as a result of the transaction. That indicates the amount of savings you would receive if you spent $2,500. If you try to take the total value of the product and then find out what percentage $1,000 is you are simply finding the percentage of the whole product the $1,000 come out to be. It's not the same representative value. I think what is being lost here is the difference between what is being granted back versus savings. The home page says: "Earn up to 50% in Logos.com credit for qualifying purchases this season! Sign up for our Christmas Credit program today, and check out the rest of our amazing Christmas deals!" It's not that you are actually saving 50% off the price of an item but that you are getting cash back. Think about it this way: If I charge $1 for an apple and gave you 50% off then I would be charging you $0.50. If, however, I said I will give you 50% back on what you spend with me in additional merchandise (so you get an apple and a half, YAY!) you wouldn't then say to me 'Thats not 50% savings!' Of course not, that's not what the sales pitch was for - it was for a percentage more than what you would have had anyway. Therefore, if I spend $2,500 with Logos I will receive 40% more than if the sale was not on. Make sense?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311730#Comment_311730

Well, either a percent of the initial purchase or a percent of the final purchase, I hope we're clear that this has no reflection on Logos.

And I might also point out a few days back someone screen copied an offer from Logos that showed the 'retail' price, regular price and a special price. I think that's fair and clear. I also saw another one from Logos that had 'Hardcopy price' instead of 'retail' which I'd think is fine too.

I'm no judge of clarity for everyone else; just following up on some of my prior 'yapping'.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311521#Comment_311521

So far, I haven't bought anything & have saved 100%.

[Y] Me, too.