Place your bets - What will come first iPad 3 or Logos App?
The question is out there. What will arrive first. The iPad 3 or highlighting and notes for the Logos iPad app? Place your bets my friends.
I bought the iPad 1 and 2 in hopes of better Logos reading but it hasn't worked out. I am not buying an iPad 3 without my trusty Logos app operational.
Which do you think will arrive first?
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Highlighting and notes for sure...
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Maybe not Pastor Kelly. iPad 3 comes in March.
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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yes Kurt, that is what the rumors are, but I have been playing with logos for some time now, and am very surprised that it has not been released yet...
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Like you I go back many years with Logos and am on the beta program.
I still think it is debatable which will come first.
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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Kurt Trucksess said:
Place your bets my friends.
Sorry, I just did research in Logos, and I'm not allowed to place bets. [;)]
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Don't misunderstand me. I am a Logos fan true to the core. Just wondering what everyone thinks.
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Kurt Trucksess said:
Don't misunderstand me. I am a Logos fan true to the core. Just wondering what everyone thinks.
No misunderstandings, hence the winking emoticon.
Personally, I'm really looking forward to both the iPad 3 and Logos with more functionality on it. How many of you preach from an iPad?
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You preach with notes?
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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Rev. Kelly Todd said:
Time will tell, won't it!
I do a double take every time I see you post. I know a Todd Kelly who is/was a pastor. Now he trains pastors around the globe through a mission agency called LRI.
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I think we will get notes and highlighting this month. Bob Prichett has stated elsewhere in the forums that the new Logos app has been submitted to Apple, and its release is only waiting for the desktop release of 4.5 out of Beta. He said that in the near future 4.5 would become a Release Candidate, then within a week the final version of the desktop would be out a week later. within a few days the iOS app would become available. So I think either this month or early February. I could be wrong...Bob said they needed to track to down a bug that is affecting syncing. So I think its soon.
Blessings
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Kurt Trucksess said:
You preach with notes?
I'm in the process of figuring that out. I am preaching for the first time Feb 5th. I think I will probably write an outline, then a manuscript, practice from the manuscript and use the outline in the pulpit. All paper this time around. But I like the idea of having everything electronic on a tablet, and I've been holding off getting an iPad until #3.
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William Gabriel said:
How many of you preach from an iPad?
And the first time the iPad malfunctions is....
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First, I am thrilled to hear you will be preaching for the first time. I have been preaching for 20 years. I write an outline, then a manuscript (books of them are found on my web site chrst2rculture.com). The manuscript gives me verbal precision in key areas. Then I shrink it back to an outline and preaching from the outline with a few pencil notes written in. This gives the feeling of live delivery versus reading from a manuscript.
In my doctoral program I had to learn to preach completely without notes. I can do it but it is hard in a weekly pulpit ministry with everything else that needs to get done.
I briefly prayed for you asking God to bless your first sermon!
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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Alan Charles Gielczyk said:
And the first time the iPad malfunctions is....
A great day to short AAPL! [:D]
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Kurt Trucksess said:
First, I am thrilled to hear you will be preaching for the first time. I have been preaching for 20 years. I write an outline, then a manuscript (books of them are found on my web site chrst2rculture.com). The manuscript gives me verbal precision in key areas. Then I shrink it back to an outline and preaching from the outline with a few pencil notes written in. This gives the feeling of live delivery versus reading from a manuscript.
In my doctoral program I had to learn to preach completely without notes. I can do it but it is hard in a weekly pulpit ministry with everything else that needs to get done.
I briefly prayed for you asking God to bless your first sermon!
Thank you sir, your prayers are much appreciated. I've got the charisma of a wet paper bag, but I rest in knowing that God's Word is living and active and the Spirit can give power to even the weakest of men...
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It is funny how things change. When I was younger, I was very quiet and hoped I didn't leave a puddle at the pulpit like a new puppy. 20 years later, the pulpit is more comfortable for me than most social situations. I am not the brightest bulb on the shelf but I preach directly and don't like to mess around.
It will be fun to see what God does in your life over time.
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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William Gabriel said:
How many of you preach from an iPad?
I've been preaching from an iPad for a couple of months and really like it...... I do however always have a paper backup.
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Why would you take an iPad into the pulpit? All I take is the outline I give the people. Mine has the blanks filled in. Why would you need more than that? Here is what I will take in the pulpit for this weekends sermon. http://www.christ2rculture.com/resources/Sermons/Solomon-on-Sex/2---Solomon-on-Sex---Give-Me-a-Kiss---Sermon-Handout.pdf
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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Since sending documents to Kindle became so easy, I now preach from the Kindle app on the iPad. And the Kindle serves as my backup... What are the chances that both forms of technology fail??
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Kurt Trucksess said:
It is funny how things change. When I was younger, I was very quiet and hoped I didn't leave a puddle at the pulpit like a new puppy. 20 years later, the pulpit is more comfortable for me than most social situations. I am not the brightest bulb on the shelf but I preach directly and don't like to mess around.
It will be fun to see what God does in your life over time.
I just checked your webpage out. We've got somewhat similar starts in that I received a Computer Science degree for my undergrad. God has called me into a life of ministry recently.
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The site doesn't look like it contains much until you dig in. There are thousands of pages and hundreds of hours of video and audio. The books section would be most helpful for other pastors
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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Kurt Trucksess said:
Why would you take an iPad into the pulpit? All I take is the outline I give the people. Mine has the blanks filled in. Why would you need more than that? Here is what I will take in the pulpit for this weekends sermon. http://www.christ2rculture.com/resources/Sermons/Solomon-on-Sex/2---Solomon-on-Sex---Give-Me-a-Kiss---Sermon-Handout.pdf
You Da Man Bro!
Isn't it amazing how the Lord made us all different; you with your outline and me with my iPad. May the Lord be glorified by both our efforts!
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I've used my iPad in teaching (notes in one app...multi-guestures swipe to Logos for Bible). When Personal Books sync with mobile app along with notes and highlighting then everything will be in Logos (Bible on top, notes on bottom using split screen).
For those who preach and or teach using an iPad you might like this pulpit
http://pastorgear.com/2010/08/coolest-pulpit-ever/
Blessings in Christ,
Philana
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Philana Crouch said:
For those who preach and or teach using an iPad you might like this pulpit
Thanks for sharing that, Philana... Although I suspect I fall into the category, 'If you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it'.
I have been preaching with the iPad since November. We are currently demoing Proclaim which enables the preacher to control the presentation via an iOS device.
Andy
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I use my iPad for sermon notes as well. Why not?
Kurt - off topic...
Since you shared them, i checked your sermon notes.
Honest Observation:Sex is listed 6 times.
Jesus is listed 0 times.just saying...
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Thanks for the honest observations friend. Yes, I am a Christ centered preacher. Yes, I agree with Bryan Chappell's book.
Couple of other thoughts.
-the outline doesn't give you all the information you need to know if Jesus made it into the sermon.
-one sermon doesn't tell you everything you need to know about the preaching of this preacher.
Still appreciate your thoughts. Thanks for sharing!
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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In the first 53 years of my life, I knew of only 1 other guy named kelly... over the past 2 years I have become friends with two guys named kelly... but neither is Todd Kelly! LOL but I did date a girl by the name of kelly for a short time... does that count?
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I actually write out my sermon word for word, then I go into the pulpit with the hard copy under my Ipad. I have the hard copy just in case my Ipad fails. I normally use the ipad and scroll it using documents to go, I will try to keep up with what is written, but after my opening illustration, my sermon is nothing like is on paper... so why do I even bother to take the ipad into the pulpit... so that I don't draw a complete blank... should that ever happen, I still have the ipad and the hard copy just in case the ipad quits which it did once... updated an app, went into the pulpit and the ipad would not open my sermon... I learned to always have a hard copy. Also the ipad has the scripture text which I always read before I preach.
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I use the I pad to teach and preach. Not worried about malfuntions, I study hard and depend upon the Holy Spirit for delivery.
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Andy Evans said:Philana Crouch said:
For those who preach and or teach using an iPad you might like this pulpit
Thanks for sharing that, Philana... Although I suspect I fall into the category, 'If you have to ask the price, you probably can't afford it'.
I have been preaching with the iPad since November. We are currently demoing Proclaim which enables the preacher to control the presentation via an iOS device.
Andy
I don't thing the blogger looked at the manufacture's site very closely...I was able to find the price. Just can't remember it...I would check now, but I'm on my iPad and the site doesn't work very well on it. From what I remember it was within the same price range as other pulpits. I like the idea of that type of pulpit. I once taught a Wednesday night Bible study at church, I didn't use paper, just the iPad. I've never had my iPad fail...so I just make sure its charged.
One thing to keep in mind when using an iPad vs. paper...if the lights at your church go out from a power outage, or lights go out, you can still preach/teach with the iPad...your Bible and notes are still visible. If you are speaking outdoors your notes cannot be blown or Bible pages flipped by wind (saw a pastor who had an iPad have some problems speaking outdoors who used paper instead). Also with iOS 5 guestures switching between Bible, notes and even a book you want to quote from another reading app is very easy to do. Those are some pluses to going digital I've found.
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Kurt Trucksess said:
Why would you take an iPad into the pulpit? All I take is the outline I give the people. Mine has the blanks filled in. Why would you need more than that? Here is what I will take in the pulpit for this weekends sermon. http://www.christ2rculture.com/resources/Sermons/Solomon-on-Sex/2---Solomon-on-Sex---Give-Me-a-Kiss---Sermon-Handout.pdf
So you don't have to print the outline and waist the paper. Since getting my iPad my printing has reduced so much I print about once a month.
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Alan Charles Gielczyk said:William Gabriel said:
How many of you preach from an iPad?
And the first time the iPad malfunctions is....
... a fun day when you are forced to rely totally on the power of the holy spirit and preach the way your seminary prof taught you.
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William Gabriel said:
You might enjoy reading Charles Koller "How To Preach Without Notes". Not in Logos though[:(]
God Bless
Graham
Pastor - NTCOG Basingstoke
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With Logos's track record of coming soon I don't place much stock in it anymore. I believe the iPad will be announced first (probably march) and it wouldn't suprise me to see it ship in April still ahead of the Logos update that will fix syncing, notes and highlighting. I was also hoping for prayer lists to sync between Logos and iOS but at the rate it's going that will probably another year. Maybe intime for Logos 5 [:P]
I've become very frustrated and disappointed in this product over the last 6 months. The sync issue has been ongoing since at leats September. Almost 5 months now.
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On 5 Jan 2012, Bob Pritchett (Logos CEO) posted a lengthy reply that included Sync v2 update => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/5923/321264.aspx#321264
Logos 4.5 Release Candidate 1 shipped today. If no major bugs, anticipating Logos 4.5 stable release next week along with mobile app updates, including iOS 2.0, but do not know if reading plan sync will be included. Looking forward to syncing Highlighting and Notes between Logos 4.5 and mobile apps very soon, perhaps later this month.
Keep Smiling
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Yippee! I also saw the RC1 update! Unfortunately, I have already reported a bug. It doesn't look like a major one.
GO TEAM LOGOS!!!!!! We are rooting for you!
Dr. Kurt Trucksess
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I've been with Logos for years and just started preaching from my ipad about two months ago. I carry a hardcopy just in case...lack of faith. But, am really feeling comfortable with the ipad. abit surprising how quick the adjustment.
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Kurt Trucksess said:
Yippee! I also saw the RC1 update! Unfortunately, I have already reported a bug. It doesn't look like a major one.
GO TEAM LOGOS!!!!!! We are rooting for you!
Very excited, so far bugs I have seen mentioned on the forums are minor that look pretty easy to fix. I am hopeful by next week we will have notes and highlights (or next by the latest). Very excited to use these features!
Blessings!
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Since the Logos app came first...and for now only to iOS, with the (potential) launch of iPad 3 on 7 March, I may finally break down and buy one. Highlighting in a lightweight form factor is that important to me--and if the resolution on the 3 is really 2,500x1,500-ish, I think the Logos app will really become useful.
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I am buying an iPad 3 also! Besides increased resolution/retina display, faster processor, true 4GL network speeds (luckily up and running in my area), it will be very popular!
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