Greek: Find frequency and location of all words of a passage in its book

Wes Saad
Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Most of my time with Logos is spent in commentaries and other resources and with fairly straightforward Greek/Hebrew translation. I haven't done much with finding word frequencies, usage, etc.

What I'm trying to do is find out how often and where the words of a given passage occur in a given book range. For example: I am working right now in 2 Peter 1:1-2. I am curious to know how often and where in 1 Peter or 2 Peter he uses the words (lemma, not necessarily same form) that are found in 2 Peter 1:1-2. Is there a way to do this without having to do a search on each individual word?

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,402

    Do a wildcard search ... which is slow but works. See the wiki for examples.

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  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    Do a wildcard search ... which is slow but works. See the wiki for examples.

    I'm afraid I don't quite understand. What sort of wildcard search? I'm wanting to do a search for a number of words within a specific range - namely, a search for all the words from 2 Peter 1:1-2, looking for where all those words occur throughout 1 and 2 Peter. Hoping for a more automated way to make this happen.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,402

    my apologies - I read too quickly and didn't see that you wanted to do a search on a group of words. I suspect that you'll have to do a wildcard search (*) on 1 & 2 Peter, export the results to a spread sheet and do some sorting/trimming from there.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,844

    Chris,

    I can't think of an easy way to do this. I think you could probably do this by first copying the words from the Greek text into a Bible search, then (to get the lemmas) paste <Lemma = lbs/el/ before each word and > after (no spaces) add a comma, then repeat until all words have the search syntax appended and a comma has been placed between each term. I'd delete pronouns, conjunctions, and other words I'm not that interested in to clean it up. Restrict the range to the books or chapters you want to search and run the search.

    It's too late for me to try this out tonight.

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    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the tips, I'll fiddle with these suggestions and see what I can come up with.

  • For example: I am working right now in 2 Peter 1:1-2. I am curious to know how often and where in 1 Peter or 2 Peter he uses the words (lemma, not necessarily same form) that are found in 2 Peter 1:1-2. Is there a way to do this without having to do a search on each individual word?

    Morph Search for @B OR @C OR @D OR @I OR @J OR @N OR @P OR @R OR @T OR @V OR @X finds all lemma's:

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    Morph Search Analysis can export to Excel, which could be useful for comparison,

    By the way, appears φθορά  and ὁδός occur only in 2 Peter 1-2 (each used four times).

  • Jerry M
    Jerry M Member Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭

    Is there a way to do this without having to do a search on each individual word?

    Along the lines of what Mark said, I believe you could open a morph search and restrict it to 1 Peter-2 Peter and put it in verses mode with whatever Bible version you want.  Then from 2 Peter 1:1-2 pick the words your interested in and right click on them from your chosen version and select lemma and then copy.  Paste the lemma into the search and then select the appropriate expression from the drop down list. Then add a comma and a space and go to the next word.  When your done change it from verses mode to analysis.

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