I know MJ submitted some datafiles a bit ago, but has anything happened with them, was looking for a daily office for the forthcoming year, but guess I will need to pull my Book of Common Prayer out..
Never Deprive Anyone of Hope.. It Might Be ALL They Have
You might want to check out the ESV On-Line Study Bible at
http://www.esvonline.org/devotions/bcp/
It includes the daily office as one of the resources available to assist in your study.
A search of Google for :"Daily Office" will return a number of sites that suggest readings from the Daily Office. Though they are non linked to LOGOS directly [:(], they provide enough information that you will not need to pull down your Book of Common Prayer.
Blessings,
Floyd
Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
http://www.logos.com/product/8648/book-of-common-prayer-1979-daily-office-lectionary
Is this what you are looking for?
THANK YOU! Thank you, Logos! I've been waiting for this!
Much better answer than mine [:)].
Blessings,
Floyd
Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
Thanks, and I love the price even more.. Bless you
Never Deprive Anyone of Hope.. It Might Be ALL They Have
The daily RCL is not the same as the daily lectionary. I would like the daily office from the RCL.
I am not aware of an RCL daily office if you mean revised common lectionary. It's my understanding that there is a strong Lutheran component to the daily lectionary as a result of Gail Ranshaw's precursor. I believe that the readings are intended for whatever service the pastor chooses. The daily RCL is closely tied to the Sunday and Feast day RCL
For the Catholic lectionary, the Sunday lectionary, daily lectionary and daily office each follow their own logic.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
Hello MJ, I can't recall if I've contacted you in a forum or not - so sorry if this is a repeat.
I'm searching forums / google for any method to get an Orthodox Lectionary into Logos. I'm willing to do any and all work as this would be tremendously useful for me. I created a Lectionary Resource that Logos 4 was able to load on my homepage, but none of the reading links (or any other text besides the date) shows up. I'm a programmer and IT specialist (in addition to priest), so the syntax / code does not scare me - and I will probably script the bulk of the work once I have the format.
But first - Is there an example format of a lectionary that loads properly in Logos somewhere?
Thanks,
Fr Aleksa
(Nice quote by Bishop Hilarion, by the way - I got to know him as Deacon when he visited my seminary a few times. Brilliant - doesn't talk much though. :-)
Welcome to the forums! Since it's still fairly early in the day where MJ lives I'll start on an answer, and then she can add a much better one later.
I presume you did it as a Personal Book, and that you have seen the Wiki page for Personal Books.
The only lectionary PB I'm aware of currently is a Messianic Jewish one. It doesn't have the actual readings, like e g Logos' Catholic Lectionary [sort of] has, but only a linked list of them. In the resource it looks like this:
When I try prioritizing it I see what I presume you saw:
So that isn't going to be much help for you, I'm afraid. Hopefully MJ has managed to get at least some of her many lectionaries in progress to 'load properly'. Don't get your hopes up too high, though. Even Logos own lectionaries leave an awful lot to be desired. But the more people that express their interest, the more likely it is that we can get Logos to prioritize these issues.
If you do manage to get it to work, and there are no copyright issues, I hope you'll post it in the Files forum. I'd be interested. And given that Logos is working on the first part of Popular Patristics, I imagine there will soon be quite a few others that are too. In fact, given that, and provided the copyright isn't a problem, it might even be possible to get Logos to release an Orthodox Lectionary as a proper resource, as a kind of good will gesture towards new Orthodox users. Increasing that customer base would do wonders for resources like the Patrologia Cursus Completus, Series Graeca, Part 1 (vols. 1–18), which isn't exactly moving fast right now.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
To get the lectionary information to show up on the home page, you need milestones for the YearMonthDay data type and you need to mark up the content with the following fields (as appropriate): reading, season, day (i.e. liturgical occasion), year, date.
Here's an example of a couple of days marked up with the appropriate milestones and fields.
[[@YearMonthDay:April 24, 2012]]
{{field-on:date}}TUESDAY, APRIL 24, 2012{{field-off:date}} | {{field-on:season}}EASTER{{field-off:season}}
{{field-on:day}}TUESDAY OF THE THIRD WEEK OF EASTER{{field-off:day}}
{{field-on:year}}YEARS 1 & 2{{field-off:year}}
First Reading {{field-on:reading}}Acts 7:51–8:1a{{field-off:reading}}
Response {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 31:6a{{field-off:reading}}
Psalm {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 31:3c–4, 6, 7b, 8a, 17, 21ab{{field-off:reading}}
Gospel Acclamation {{field-on:reading}}John 6:35ab{{field-off:reading}}
Gospel {{field-on:reading}}John 6:30–35{{field-off:reading}}
[[@YearMonthDay:April 25, 2012]]
{{field-on:date}}WEDNESDAY, APRIL 25, 2012{{field-off:date}} |{{field-on:season}} FEAST{{field-off:season}}
{{field-on:day}}SAINT MARK, EVANGELIST{{field-off:day}}
{{field-on:year}}YEARS 1 & 2{{field-off:year}}
First Reading {{field-on:reading}}1 Peter 5:5b–14{{field-off:reading}}
Response {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 89:2{{field-off:reading}}
Psalm {{field-on:reading}}Psalm 89:2–3, 6–7, 16–17{{field-off:reading}}
Gospel Acclamation {{field-on:reading}}1 Corinthians 1:23a–24b{{field-off:reading}}
Gospel {{field-on:reading}}Mark 16:15–20{{field-off:reading}}
I've tested this in the current beta and it appears to work as expected. (Previously, there was a bug that prevented Personal Book lectionaries from showing up on the homepage.)
The text of the readings in Logos lectionaries is inserted with dynamic text. Dynamic text functionality is planned, but not implemented for Personal Books, but the homepage functionality does not depend on the dynamic text.
Absolutely--particularly if we can determine what lectionary would be most in demand and obtain that.
Thanks to everyone for your quick responses - I got it to work as expected and am now in the process of setting the lectionary so that all I have to do is input the date(s) of Easter and a ready-to-go lectionary pops out for any number of years, sans any extra work. :-)
If I were to see about Logos making this a resource available to everyone, who might I contact? I'm not too hip w/ copyright issues, but this lectionary is widely published and available all over the place in many different formats.
~Fr Aleksa
Nice job! [:)]
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When I went to bed yesterday, I was thinking that you'd need something similar to the verse mapping system. Something like 'LitDateGREG:Christmas Day' and 'LitDateJUL:Christmas Day' for the basic separation between Western and Eastern calendars, and then all sorts of combinations (calendar, rite, religious order, diocese, time in history...) before you end up with a datatype for a particular lectionary.
Then I woke up in the morning and realized that the system also needs to be able to handle references like "the Collect for the First Sunday in Advent" or "the hymn for Vespers on Holy Saturday".
Then there's the issue that if someone makes a lot of notes in one lectionary, and then moves to another diocese with basically the same calendar, except for some different saints and a couple of days moved to/from the nearest Sunday, then the software needs to recognize when the texts are the same and show the old notes in the new lectionary.
The more I think about it, the more I realize that easy it is definitely not. And I'm sure I've only scratched the surface. But I do eagerly wait for the day when it works!
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
Yep. Limited as it is, the current set up at least has the advantage of being open-ended, so that if you're willing to do the alignment between dates and the readings and other data, almost any arrangement can be made to work. Even the handful of lectionaries we've done so far vary quite a bit in their calendars and (in some cases) get rather complex to calculate. Dealing with these variations intelligently without creating the kind of Procrustean bed we used to have with the Biblical canon will be a challenge.