Should I go iPad or Android?
I am planning to purchase a tablet and want guidance on which would be best? Logos/Vyrso is my main reason, though I'll also do email, web, etc. I'm interested in your overall impressions as well as Logos-specific input. My questions for y'all:
- Why did you choose your particular tablet?
- What do you like best?
- What do you wish was different?
- Most important factor(s) I should weigh in my decision.
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Adam,
I don't know if you had heard, but Google is looking to release a tablet that is around $199 very shortly. They are trying to match the price of a Kindle, while providing the functionality of the ipad. It is so far being called the Google Nexus Tablet. I would wait for that before you buy anything.
I have a Lenovo ThinkPad tablet and love it. Although around 1/2 thicker than the iPad you get a stylus that does practically all the functions as your finger (cept pinching -zoom/unzoom, etc). Plus you can write and it will transcribe (depending if you buy and app) you can write with the pen and it will transcribe in any app that you are using) or just take notes.
One of the nasty things about tablets is finger prints and with the styles you really don't have to worry about that.
Definitely the Logos app is more developed for iOS... i suppose at some point they may get pretty even (I suspect that the iOS will always be a little ahead just because of market share (doubt android will catch up or overtake in # as in the phones for tablets).
If you plan to use Logos extensively on the tablet with bells and whistles (whatever they may be) go for iPad. If you're going to use it for basic passage guide stuff (then consider both OS) In terms of apps yes iOS has many more (especially designed for tablets). But in 90% of cases there is an Android version or comparable.
If you want to have access to SD cards and USB port you definitely should go with certain Android tablets (but don't go for Android 2.xx, try getting with Ice Cream Sandwich (4.xx). iPad I'm sure has some add-ons that you can purchases but why carry around more stuff when you can have it built in. All depends on your style and wants. For me, Apple products just aren't designed to do/function how I want or need it to do.
This is a great and very useful discussion. If I may ask a question of my own: how does one check for lexical information when using a Logos app? I was using biblia.com yesterday and so far the only answer I'd have is to open the original language resource (BHS or NA), check what the word is and then manually open a lexical resource to look it up. Is there not something available that compares to the type of info mouse hovering provides in the desktop version of Logos? What about keying to strong's numbers?
Hi Francis
how does one check for lexical information when using a Logos app?
You can "press and hold" on a word which provides you with a pop-up menu and some options. In the example below I chose the "Look up" option (others are Copy, Search, Highlight and Note)
You can then choose the Bible Word Study option which gives
From here you can reference off to BDAG, L-N, etc (it is limited in that you can only have three lexica)
You get similar functionality on the Android app.
For both apps, these functions only work when online
Hope this helps
Graham
I have no experience with android (nor any desire to), so you can take my comments with a grain of salt. Here are some thoughts:
I love my iPad and use it daily. You should be aware that the mobile app is NOT "Logos 4." You should not expect do do all of the same things on it. There are many features that require a internet connection. It is great for reading (including reading plans) and highlighting, which is what I use it for.
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I own my third iPad (get new one each year) and a Kindle Fire. I owned an ASUS EeePad Transformer too before selling it. The Logos iPad app is ahead of the Android app. You can't add notes or highlights on Android yet.. There are other things.
If all you do is read books on the tablet, then the Android will work find and I'd go with the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7" tablet. It's 7" and only $250 compare to 10" and 500 minimum for iPad. Kindle books and Logos for just reading work great on it.
If you think you will do much more than reading - which you wil, trust me - then get an ipad if you can afford it and get as big an iPad as you can afford. I have a 32 GB and it feels cramped.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
Brushy Mountain Baptist Association
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Thanks, Kevin, for the feedback. Since you've owned several devices (and I don't yet have enough $$ for a new iPad), maybe you can answer a few additional questions:
Kevin - let me chime in. I would recommend a iPad 2, either new or refurbished (which is less expensive).
What you won't get in comparison with the iPad 3rd Generation is the Retina display which is like going from an old tube TV to HD. You may not notice the difference (many don't until they see a video or high definition picture). I have a wifi only iPad and when there is no wifi around you can't download new pubs or do some searches/word studies.
I can't comment on the Droid vs IOS apps as I haven't looked into the droid market but I can tell you that there are more IOS apps than you'll ever need/want/use. There are many that are free, and there are even apps that tracks free apps as some will start free or be place on sale for free to drive market share (and they hope positive feedback in the app store). Other apps are $0.99 which is fair and there are others that are more expensive but you don't need to get those unless you see the need.
I've been a happy iPad user with Logos since the iPad 2 came out last year. Is Logos the best Bible app? I couldn't say but it does most of what I need when I'm away from a real PC.
For reading plans I gave up on Logos and am using YouVersion which does a FANTASTIC job with reading plans. You pick one and it just works, even syncs to their cloud so you can use YouVersion plans on multiple platforms.
Just my $0.01
I am a lifelong Apple-loather, but have an iPad 2, which I use daily, for Logos, light email and Web use, productivity management (although I don't use the supplied Apple Reminders app which is not much use). I was hanging on for an Android device, having given up on Microsoft bringing anything to market in a reasonable timescale, but went for the iPad in the end for the following reasons:
The only things I still use my PC for since getting my iPad are:
Things I love about the iPad:
Running Logos 6 Platinum and Logos Now on Surface Pro 4, 8 GB RAM, 256GB SSD, i5
As another lifelong apple-loather (and somebody who has been known to scold the apple fanboys for crashing PC forums) I agree with this post. I bought a refurbished iPad2 and have loved it. I use my Android phone to create a mobile hotspot so I can use my iPad in places where wi-fi is not available. My only difference from GregW is that I primarily use gmail (instead of outlook) for more longer email correspondence.
I still have some minor issues with iPad syncing with google servers on some calendar appointments,this is the only Apple product in my Technology toolbox, but I have to give Apple credit for this product.
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
Thanks for all the great feedback. Very helpful.
You mention Gmail, which is what I use. Are you able to do that fairly well via iPad?
Also, bluetooth (or wired) keyboards. Any feedback on that experience? I still envision myself doing most typing at my PC, but it may be worth investing in one for the tablet at some point.
Yes, there is a Gmail app that I have installed to my iPad dock (i think that is what it is called) that is on my iPad home screen. it works very well.
The $69 apple bluetooth keyboard has greatly increased my ability to input into the iPad quickly. Next week I will be attending a class and the keyboard will allow me to keep up with the professor's lecture as I take notes in a nifty APP called AudioNote. Logitech makes a keyboard/case duo that is pretty attractive but I wanted to keep my iPad THIN when I carry it around and the keyboard is not something that I use most of the time. Just my 2 cents.
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
Thanks for the input.
Can you tell me more about AudioNote. Sounds like something I might like.
I don't want to take advantage of Logos forums to discuss a non-logos product. You can search for it in the iTunes store. [:D]
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
Thanks for the feedback. Two follow-up questions:
Shape & size. The iPad is roughly the size of a "real" hardcover book.
If you don't have an internet connection, you can't view books you haven't downloaded. You can't do word studies or passage guides. These are all things done on the Logos servers due to hardware limitations.
You should get an answer from Kevin, but I will take a stab at it. No, there are not "more" free apps on Andriod, but by percentage this may be true.
Again, it would be good to hear from Kevin, but I will throw in my 2 cents. "Flexibility" and "customization" are not always good things, but yes, Andriod is so. If you were climbing a ladder, would you want the most flexible one, or the most stable? Let me give you an example. Apple was hard nosed about not allowing Adobe Flash on their mobile devices for two reasons: 1) Battery Life and 2) Security. Everyone made a huge deal about this at the time, but Apple won out and Adobe is no longer developing flash mobile. Yes, having flash would offer more "flexibility." Yes, having flash would allow for more customization. But in the long run Apple was concerned about the users experience. If flash became a gateway for a virus, or if it drained the users battery, who would they be upset with? Adobe? Nope. Apple stuck by their guns and it was the right decision.
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