5.0 Beta 4 (5.00.0.1721) available

5.0 Beta 4 (5.00.0.1721) is available for testing.

All of the Beta Testing Warnings apply to this release.

If your program is currently running Logos 5.0, and you haven't changed your default update channel, existing Logos 5 installations will update themselves automatically. Otherwise, and for new installations, use one of the links below.

Mac

Windows

Release notes for Beta 4 are available on the Logos 5 wiki.

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NetworkGeek

Bit the bullet! Logos 5 is on my main laptop now! Pray for me!!!! (I still have Logos 4 running on an older desktop PC if I get in trouble [;)] )

Jack Caviness

Release Notes link seems tied to this thread.

How do I access the L5 Wiki?

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/408418#Comment_408418

http://five.logos.com

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/408421#Comment_408421

http://five.logos.com

Thanks, but that also brought me back to this thread [:(]

NetworkGeek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/408422#Comment_408422

Release notes link worked for me - http://five.logos.com/Logos_5.0_Beta_4

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/408423#Comment_408423

Release notes link worked for me - http://five.logos.com/Logos_5.0_Beta_4

Don't know what my problem is, but that also came back to this thread.

UPDATE: The problem seems to have be with Firefox. Tried the same link in Safari, and it worked correctly.

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/408424#Comment_408424

That's odd. Must be another one of those Mac things...my windows machine is working perfectly[;)]

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/408454#Comment_408454

my windows machine is working perfectly

Believe that is an oxymoron [:D]

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/408414#Comment_408414

Bit the bullet! Logos 5 is on my main laptop now! Pray for me!!!! (I still have Logos 4 running on an older desktop PC if I get in trouble )

Hmm. Not me yet. I'll probably install L5b5 as my main though.

Philana Crouch

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/408762#Comment_408762

As a new MVP am I allowed to beta test Logos 5. I tried to go into the release notes to see what it had, and said I was denied access. So I wanted to find out. It would be cool.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409163#Comment_409163

I have the same question as Philana. Does it overwrite L4?

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409165#Comment_409165

Philana & Lynden –

Logos will have to flip the switch for you (if they have not done so already). Logos 5 does overwrite L4. If you download it, remember not to post any screen shots! Even when you think things look the same, someone picks up on the difference. [:S]

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409163#Comment_409163

I tried to go into the release notes to see what it had, and said I was denied access.

I similarly received the same message and presume, therefore, that said switch has not been flipped.

I noticed I had been given access to the L5 Beta forums and emailed Nathan to doublecheck whether it was okay to go ahead and download the Beta. I will update this thread if I get a response.

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409178#Comment_409178

Actually, just received a response from Nathan... The said switch has been flipped.

It actually feels a little like Christmas. [:D]

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409178#Comment_409178

I noticed I had been given access to the L5 Beta forums

Did you also sign the agreement to commit suicide if you accidentally divulge the existence of L5 on the General Forum? [8-|]

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409183#Comment_409183

Like the new interface and homepage.

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409194#Comment_409194

Did you also sign the agreement to commit suicide if you accidentally divulge the existence of L5 on the General Forum?

Ha! I must have missed that in the small print.

[8-|] Ah, now I see it. [:D]

On a serious note, if I install L5 via second user account on the Mac, I presume that it will not overwrite L4 on the 1st (sorry for the newbie question, but it is the first time I have attempted this via the Mac [:$]).

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409196#Comment_409196

Layout switching seems much faster.

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409198#Comment_409198

I presume that it will not overwrite L4 on the 1st

True, but you will also need a second copy of all resources, indexes, etc. Chip (KS4J) has such an installation. Perhaps he can provide more information.

The current beta is very stable, and faster than L4 Mac. Notes are much improved, although there is still some lag in typing.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409198#Comment_409198

Correct. I use a second user account for beta testing. L5 happily resides here.

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409202#Comment_409202

Thanks, Jack. On second thoughts, I will give it a whirl on my main user account. I have a backup of L4 on the PC should it come to it [^o)].

[Edit: And thank you, Mark.]

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409209#Comment_409209

I've been running beta 4 as my primary since released. No problems so far. I even updated my net book to L5 which is my backup machine. I like to live on the edge.

Lynden O. Williams

When I close the software and relaunch it, it starts indexing the recently downloaded resources, then crashes, and then opens up. But there is nothing that says that Logos is indexing.

Do you use the same script for diagnostic loggging as in L4?

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409231#Comment_409231

A search for Jesus on the ESV is fast with no lag. How do I know if it is finished indexing?

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409233#Comment_409233

Hi Lynden,

I had a large download of updates to around 90 resources immediately after updating. It is now indexing (slowly). I have the blue indexing icon in the toolbar (I am presently at 17%). I have opened and closed L5 a couple of times during indexing (the fans were going crazy), but have not experienced any crashes.

Did you get the download of updates? Is this what is indexing, I wonder? I presume you are not seeing the indexing icon?

I am working on the Mac side btw.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409236#Comment_409236

Andy, after the last 3.8 ? download the large download of 678 MB is finally indexing. How do you enable diagnostic logging?

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409239#Comment_409239

The download I was referring to was after the download and installation of L5. It was around 678MB and so I am assuming that it is the same download you have just received. Indexing is really slow. I am on 18% now (it has taken an hour to get here, but is crawling slowly).

I have not enable logging (I guess I should have done). I presume the terminal command or Chip (KS4Js) applet will work on the Mac side and ctrl on start up on the PC side?!?

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409209#Comment_409209

I have a backup of L4 on the PC should it come to it .

Surely the Lord will protect His own from such tragedy and trauma! [8-)]

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409241#Comment_409241

I presume the terminal command or Chip (KS4Js) applet will work on the Mac side

Yes, I use it along with Logos Log
Scribe

I keep logging enabled permanently. Don't know if it slows L5 down, as I have not run it without logging.

BTW: the gibberish is a feature of pasting the link from MS Word.

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409243#Comment_409243

Surely the Lord will protect His own

[:D]

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409252#Comment_409252

When you close the application, it syncs pretty quickly.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409256#Comment_409256

No longer crashing.

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409256#Comment_409256

When you close the application, it syncs pretty quickly.

I've just discovered this myself [:)]. It has now finished indexing. I have had a quick mess around and am impressed by how much more responsive it feels (and I was more than satisfied with L4Mac). I will have a proper play tomorrow.

I really like the look of the UI and agree with you that the home page looks really good.

No longer crashing.

Excellent news. [:D]

Bohuslav Wojnar

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409243#Comment_409243

I have a backup of L4 on the PC should it come to it .

Surely the Lord will protect His own from such tragedy and trauma!

I now have Logos 5 as my main system and Logos 4 on the secondary account. I also have used Logos 4 beta all the time as my main working system, however, just once, I got a really bad situation with having the Logos presentation workshop at the conference and night before the new Beta just crashed Logos every time after start. Real fun, I tell you. All the night long I installed a stable version, just to find out in the morning that Bradley came with the solution for Beta [:(]. But, as we say: "the end is good, all is good". I again use Logos 5 Beta as my main system.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409271#Comment_409271

Closed and reopened, and the home page came up right away.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409274#Comment_409274

Checked most of the options on the homepage and it populates very quickly. I am done with L4..

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409275#Comment_409275

Rebooted and started the software. Took unusually long to load a blank screen.

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409170#Comment_409170

Even when you think things look the same, someone picks up on the difference.

ruh roh, raggy, i did, but I left off the top of the pane . . . i thought everything else looked "normal". i won't do that anymore, out of a word I can't think of what it is right now . . .

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409275#Comment_409275

Checked most of the options on the homepage and it populates very quickly. I am done with L4..

me too. if the ship goes down . . . i'm sunk on all my computers! [:O]

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409292#Comment_409292

Topic guide is very fast.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409295#Comment_409295

you can add Biblical people, places and things, from exegetical guide, even though they are grouped under Bible facts. Is this by design?

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409297#Comment_409297

Under L4, if you set up a custom passage guide, you could preview the text of the commentary using mouse over. Tried this on my custom guide, and it only shows the book information.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409301#Comment_409301

Made a new guide, still no difference.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409297#Comment_409297

you can add Biblical people, places and things, from exegetical guide, even though they are grouped under Bible facts. Is this by design?

Using "Make a new guide template" at bottom of Guides menu, you can customize a TG by selecting "Topic" as below.

Does this help?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409301#Comment_409301

Under L4, if you set up a custom passage guide, you could preview the text of the commentary using mouse over. Tried this on my custom guide, and it only shows the book information.

It does the same in 4.6a. If you are convinced that 4.6 previewed the text you should start a new thread.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409493#Comment_409493

. If you are convinced that 4.6 previewed the text you should start a new thread.

Thanks, I will.

What are the new data sets mentioned when L5 was about to be announced? So far I have not come across any.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409572#Comment_409572

Ran a word list on the book of Mark, the results came back in about a minutes time. Switched from Grid to cards seemed to lockup, then it came back. Maybe a message should display saying that Logos is working rather than not responding. This way users will not be tempted to force close the program prematurely.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409574#Comment_409574

Still waiting on the conversion from Cards to grid.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409576#Comment_409576

Still waiting on the conversion from Cards to grid.

Still waiting. Can someone with a faster machine, try and duplicate this to see what happens. It seems to be working but it is hard to say. The "not responding message is gone, just the hour glass. The cpu useage is at aourd 25-28 percent. Ram use is at about 50%.

NetworkGeek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/409580#Comment_409580

I have a very fast laptop, but both the generation of the Mark Word List and switching between Cards and Grid is instantaneous, so it's not that it fails it's just processing.