in order to have more available resources when studying? I know for everyone it's different, however I'm curious.
The answer for me is yes, I would want a package with a bunch of quality resources, that also has some writings I might not be exposed to otherwise.
I go with the quality resources. IMHO, the pacakges have a lot of fill material that I know that I would never use. I spend my money on the items that I know that I use.
I bought Diamond because it contained far more than 10 quality resources at a cheaper price than I could have bought them individually.
However, I agree with you principle, which is why I bought Diamond and not Portfolio, which did not appear to me to add many quality resources to Diamond. Also, I would have not bought Diamond if I did not already have a majority of it, bought gradually over about 16 years, which considerably lowered the cost.
So I don't disagree with your principle. It is just that what one considers quality depends on the individual's needs. Quality resources for me may not be quality resources for you, and vice versa.
What if there are more than 10 quality resources in a package of 50 books, but the cost of the package is less than purchasing the 10 quality books? That is what I have seen on many occasions. So are you buying books you consider fluff or the 10 quality books for less than you would if you paid for them separately. This is especially true of commentary sets, at least in the past. Then, surprise, something you thought was filler turns out to be a gem.
I agree with John. I have often been surprised by resources that I didn't think I needed.
Well, I guess I'll be the 'odd lady out'. When I go to the library, I want what I want. I don't need the librarian putting in some ones the library got years back that were popular with the nearby seminary students.
But that said, Logos 'crafting' a total library to pick from has really been a blessing. Whenever I'm reading and I see a reference that looks good, Logos more often than not has it.
Then, surprise, something you thought was filler turns out to be a gem.
That has happened to me, too. That is always a pleasant surprise.
I buy a package for commentaries and lexicons. I had a great surprise in the Diamond package. I had some how overlooked that Colin Brown's DNTT was in the package. That is something I had wanted, and didn't even realize I had bought. I was still using my paper copies, when I stumbled on it the other day. There's some good stuff in them there packages.
I think the best buy of a package was the original L4 Platinum, before it lost several great resources from Baker publishing. I am glad I got it while the getting was good.
You just have to be careful that a package has enough good stuff that you will use, and that it is affordable, of course. You can always "hide" the fluff.
Then, surprise, something you thought was filler turns out to be a gem. That has happened to me, too. That is always a pleasant surprise. I buy a package for commentaries and lexicons. I had a great surprise in the Diamond package. I had some how overlooked that Colin Brown's DNTT was in the package. That is something I had wanted, and didn't even realize I had bought. I was still using my paper copies, when I stumbled on it the other day. There's some good stuff in them there packages. I think the best buy of a package was the original L4 Platinum, before it lost several great resources from Baker publishing. I am glad I got it while the getting was good. You just have to be careful that a package has enough good stuff that you will use, and that it is affordable, of course. You can always "hide" the fluff.
I agree.
That was an amazing upgrade which I did. I don't know if we will ever see a deal like that one again. One could always hope, but it was unusually sweet!
I think the best buy of a package was the original L4 Platinum, before it lost several great resources from Baker publishing. I am glad I got it while the getting was good. That was an amazing upgrade which I did. I don't know if we will ever see a deal like that one again. One could always hope, but it was unusually sweet!
What was the title of these set? I have the L4 Platinum and want to find it. Thanks!
I think I would prefer both quality and quantity. I have sometimes been pleasantly surprised when consulting a resource that I would not have bought by itself but because it came in a package.
I would prefer 10 quality resources over the L5 Silver base-package. However, 10 quality resources is very difficult to get cheaper by buying them separately, than if a few of them are included in the base-package and You only need to add the missing ones separately.
I've been discussing base-packages in: Upgrade to higher package version?Is this desirable (social pressure)?L5 Silver now or wait for L6?If you "upgraded" to L5 Platinum from L4, what resources made it a good buy for you?and in an older thread: Poll: Logos Catholic books electronic collect for 100s of $. OpinionsWanted! (Lenghty post) (1 2 3)I'm interested in resorces such as: Anabaptist and Mennonite Studies Collection (16 vols.)John Howard Yoder Collection (12 vols.)Greek Apocryphal Gospels, Fragments, and Agrapha... and probably also: New Testament Studies Bundle, M (11 vols.)
So some books that I want come in collections. I'm not going to wait until the collections are split or any of these books are included in a base-package. The latter possibility is pretty unlikely.
Additionally I think I'll purchase: A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Pastoral Epistles
... and I would want one more Believer's Church Bible Commentary volume in addition to the 2 I have, I just can't decide which one, perhaps there will be some new volumes in the future as the set is not completed yet? https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=believer%27s+church+bible+commentaryPerhaps 1-2 Peter, Jude. I have 2 print commentaries on those (just one on 1 Pt).
I would prefer 10 quality resources over the L5 Silver base-package.
And this really demonstrates the issue that "quality" is seen as very much in the view of the user.
If, taking this example, we look at what is in the Silver package there are a range of resources which many people would say are of good quality - well researched and clearly written. Just taking some at (nearly) random:
I am not saying that any of the above resources are those which any particular individual would want but I think it is right to recognise that they are "quality resources".
Maybe the discussion would be better held in the context of "valuable resources" - and this is very much dependent on what any particular person wants at any one time.
Graham
I had some how overlooked that Colin Brown's DNTT was in the package. That is something I had wanted, and didn't even realize I had bought. ... There's some good stuff in them there packages.
This is definitely one of the challenges with the larger packages, it can be hard to get to grips with everything that you now have. Not complaining though [;)]
Thanks, good to know, I have those since before from the old base-package:
Merriam-Webster dictionary Chalot and BDB have been recommended by many on these forums
I don't want apologetics or more English Bibles. I don't need the lectionaries (they function poorly for example for going to Mass on a saturday - I still haven't figured out what date to look at), additional interlinears (just the full NRSV is enough and there came a license for it in Original Languages), or additional commentaries. I've already spent somewhat much on commentaries and have more in pre-order and like I explained in my previous post I'm buying a couple more. Theologically NAC is not really what I want.
Btw: I'm OK with unfinished commentary sets.
And this is really what I was meaning - the important thing for each of us is what is of value to us, and you are clearly investing time and effort in working out what this means for you. I am also going through the same process and will come up with different answers and that is totally fine and to be expected.
But this shouldn't be confused with whether or not the resources themselves are of good quality - that is a wholly different debate.
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