Moody titles will be going away

George Somsel said:

I wouldnt dream of rendering final judgment, but I know he'll roast in brimstone forever. 

And in cases where such behavior is clear and unhidden, telling him what fate awaits him isn't "judging your neighbor". It is fulfilling the commandment to warn according to Ezek. 33:9. And quite the contrary, failing to speak up in such cases (which action can only be performed as a result of judging that a person has crossed YHWH's explict line) brings judgment upon oneself. Ezek. 33:8

Super Tramp said:

David Paul said:

none of their students will be able to purchase any of Moody's own products for their own use in the seminary's own declared and required Bible software of choice.

You are myopic, David. Why can't you see (like Moody does) that having Logos Bible software, even without access to Moody resources, is a good thing that will help in the pursuit of a good education. Proof that Moody doesn't believe they are the only ones who publish good stuff.

Me myopic? Hmmm. All I've done in the post you keep harping on is point out an irony--a situation that will be an irony regardless of what you say about it, regardless how many times you take me to task, and regardless of how many posts you leave. Noticing the irony required sight...even insight. On the other hand, berating me seems to be rather pointless, which is often described as being "short-sighted".

Milford, I'm pretty good with the English language. I addressed your (Luther's, I suppose) statement as a whole but bolded the part that I was in particular finding to be potentially troublesome. Indeed, as a universal principle, always putting the best face on every situation is foolhardy and ungodly. I am not--as I think should be obvious and thus your incredulity--suggesting that one should betray or slander a neighbor who is a neighbor. I was not addressing those parts of your comment. What many people don't seem to comprehend is that wolves are not considered neighbors in YHWH's economy.

When the cameras come to interview you about the NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR accused of undeniable, provable child molestation, try cheerily announcing "well, at least he kept his lawn real nice, and always decorated for Halloween and other occasions, and paid his taxes on time!" The backlash would be well and fully earned.

For what it's worth, it is the way in which your "explain everything in the kindest way" mindset plays out in a prophetic sense--particularly with regard to the "strong delusion" and the "man of lawlessness"--that I most have in mind. People will be stepping over each other to say kind and positive things about that man--I promise.

Milford Charles Murray said:

David, it is God who commands His People not to bear false witness against their neighbour!  If you have an argument, take it up with him ...  not me  ... not Luther   ....  Frankly, I think Luther's Explanation is "right on"!!!   *smile*     We need to obey God!  David, "best face" and "best construction" are two vastly different things!

… וַיֹּ֙אמֶר֙ אֶל־הָ֣אִשָּׁ֔ה אַ֚ף כִּֽי־אָמַ֣ר אֱלֹהִ֔ים

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David Paul said:

George Somsel said:

I wouldnt dream of rendering final judgment, but I know he'll roast in brimstone forever. 

And in cases where such behavior is clear and unhidden, telling him what fate awaits him isn't "judging your neighbor". It is fulfilling the commandment to warn according to Ezek. 33:9. And quite the contrary, failing to speak up in such cases (which action can only be performed as a result of judging that a person has crossed YHWH's explict line) brings judgment upon oneself. Ezek. 33:8

David Thomas said:

Peter Lever said:

Proverbs 18:17 (NKJV) — 17 The first one to plead his cause seems right, Until his neighbor comes and examines him.

  I appreciate this post!!   As a 10-year user of Logos I have benefitted greatly from this company and appreciate the spirit with which Bob does business. As an alumnus of Moody Bible Institute I benefitted from the tuition-paid education that is in part underwritten by the profits of Moody Publishers and has equipped me for the last 25 years of full-time vocational ministry. I appreciate the motives of the Moody Colportage Association founded in 1894 with the express purpose of making Christian resources affordably available to the masses. NONE OF US have the whole story and we do a disservice to the cause of Christ when we attempt to assign blame to either MP or LOGOS without the necessary knowledge.   I regret that MP resources within Logos are in jeopardy, but trust the interests of both companies are NOT mutually exclusive and that a new agreement will be reached soon.

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If Moody does indeed depart from Logos one of the greatest losses will be the AM Bible Courseware. This study-at-home program uses Logos to equip Christians for service in the local church. Logos just recently updated the resources to run under Logos 5. If one is interested in AM Bible Courseware I recommend getting it while you can.

The best deal is the Foundation of Biblical Ministry option (includes all 32 AM courses.) Course Descriptions PDF  (109 KB) $800 is very reasonable "tuition" and can be put on a payment plan.

I agree with Supertramp.  The loss of the AM Training from Moody is monumental.

Bruce Dunning said:

Thank you for voicing your concerns regarding the removal of Moody titles from Logos Bible Software.

Moody Publishers is aware of this action and your concerns have been forwarded.

I would like to appeal to both Moody Publishers and Logos to try very hard to reach a workable solution. I would much rather have Moody books available at a higher price than not available at all. I can only imagine one scenario that would be absolutely unsolvable; that of Moody requesting Logos to remove other publisher's works from the catalog. Short of that I know an agreement could be reached. I hope they are still working on a solution. [W]

I, too, would prefer higher prices over no books available, and I also have gotten the same email.  Even though it is the same email as the rest received, I hope that the people who make the decisions on their side take our emails under advisement.  If enough people send enough emails, it might make a difference.

David Thomas said:

Peter Lever said:

Proverbs 18:17 (NKJV) — 17 The first one to plead his cause seems right, Until his neighbor comes and examines him.

  I appreciate this post!!   As a 10-year user of Logos I have benefitted greatly from this company and appreciate the spirit with which Bob does business. As an alumnus of Moody Bible Institute I benefitted from the tuition-paid education that is in part underwritten by the profits of Moody Publishers and has equipped me for the last 25 years of full-time vocational ministry. I appreciate the motives of the Moody Colportage Association founded in 1894 with the express purpose of making Christian resources affordably available to the masses. NONE OF US have the whole story and we do a disservice to the cause of Christ when we attempt to assign blame to either MP or LOGOS without the necessary knowledge.   I regret that MP resources within Logos are in jeopardy, but trust the interests of both companies are NOT mutually exclusive and that a new agreement will be reached soon.

              Obviously the Holy Spirit of God has give you Response Ability!         *smile*              Thank you!       Praise God for this!

(John Chrysostom (c. 347–407  His last words are said to have been, "δόξα τῷ θεῷ πάντων ἕνεκεν" (Glory be to God for all things).)

Milford Charles Murray said:

And!  I'm surprised that you spelled "patronised" like an American!      *smile*    Although, when I read this article    --  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Spelling/Words_ending_with_%22-ise%22_or_%22-ize%22  -- then I realise that more and more Canadians are spelling like Americans.

I remember a comment that the Canadian theologian Douglas John Hall made when he came to speak when I was in school...  He mentioned that one of his college students asked him where he got his accent.  His answer - Canada, before Television...

SDG

Well,The Moody Blues have been going on for about 49 years. These Moody blues are now up to 10 pages.

Phil Gons said:

We've reached a decision with Moody. We'll be pulling all Moody-owned titles off Logos.com (not Vyrso.com) later today or tomorrow. We're not treating this as temporary. It's unlikely that they will be coming back in the future.

I am guessing this applies to the prepub for "Luke 6-10: MacArthur New Testament Commentary." What a disappointment.

"We are no longer selling Logos or books with immediate effect" - as much a possibility as Moody was. God save us!