Announcing...Android Suite 4.0.3 Beta Release!

Same here

David,  I just read your postings about the 4 0.3 release.   I cannot find the hyperlink to download the beta.   Am I missing something? 

on my tablet, it is very difficult to change the book when I have half-half screen for the bottom screen..

it doesn't always open the library whenever I wanted to open a different book..

I don't have a problem with the top-half, but the bottom half ALWAYS gives me problem whenever I want to change my book to something else..

Also, may we request that the library fonts be made smaller, so we actually SEE WHAT BOOK we're looking at .. I don't want to memorize the book by the cover all the time..its irritating ( I know we can hit the i mark)

Awesome! Awesome! AWESOME! This is lightyears ahead of the old UI. LOVE the sliding drawer. Nearly everything looks and feels better, cleaner, more polished. I've only played with it about 30 mins (way past bedtime), but I'm really loving it.

The only negative is that I don't really like the Choose Location dialog when selecting Search, Passage Guide, Share, etc. 1) It's not as elegant as everything else appears to be. 2) It also obscures the text where it would be nicer to see the text as you're choosing. 3) And it does not allow for selection of a range (I can only post a verse at a time to Facebook?) A dialog that let you choose the verse to operate on by showing the text a verse at a time, adjusted by a slider might be one idea. Something that looks like the top part of the Settings panel, except that the slider changes the selected verse instead of the font size. Maybe a second slider to change the range??? Just an idea. Not an easy problem to come up with ideas for.

But that's just one tiny nit in what otherwise is looking awesome.

Very impressive.  Thanks for all your work.   Everything seems to work well on the Bible app on my Nexus 7 (2012).  I really like the sliding Navigation Drawer and the action bars in each panel.    I found that it took more than a couple of minutes to open my note files (NT and OT commentaries) the first time, but for subsequent openings of those documents, they appeared much more quickly.   One drawback though to having the sliding Navigation Drawer when viewing a notes file is that it is really easy to inadvertently delete a note when trying to open the drawer.  Fortunately the app has an undo button.

Alright folks, I'm going to attempt a massive reply here. [:)]

mike said:

on my tablet, it is very difficult to change the book when I have half-half screen for the bottom screen..

it doesn't always open the library whenever I wanted to open a different book..

Mike, I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Can you try and clarify? I'd also be interested to know which tablet you're using. The best thing to do might be to start a new thread and follow the instructions at the top of this post.

Randy W. Sims said:

The only negative is that I don't really like the Choose Location dialog when selecting Search, Passage Guide, Share, etc. 1) It's not as elegant as everything else appears to be. 2) It also obscures the text where it would be nicer to see the text as you're choosing. 3) And it does not allow for selection of a range (I can only post a verse at a time to Facebook?) A dialog that let you choose the verse to operate on by showing the text a verse at a time, adjusted by a slider might be one idea. Something that looks like the top part of the Settings panel, except that the slider changes the selected verse instead of the font size. Maybe a second slider to change the range??? Just an idea. Not an easy problem to come up with ideas for.

I agree that it's not an easy problem to come up with ideas for. We were hoping this method would be better than the tiny arrow buttons from v2. [:)] One downside to your suggestion is that it would probably be significantly slower than just showing the list of references to pick from. However, tou can already select a range of verses by highlighting the desired text and choosing "Share" (or whatever) from the text selection menu.

Graham Criddle said:

This has been a long standing issue with the PG on iOS and it looks as though it persists into the Android platform as well.

It's interesting to note that the order in which commentaries are returned is the same on both Android and iOS suggesting there is some internal ordering going on - it is not just random

I don't really know much about this, but I believe the results are ordered on the server, so it would make sense that you're seeing the same behavior in Android and iOS.

Lynden Williams said:

Lots of reading plans on the home screen, that I never signed up for. Telling them not now.

Hm. I would expect the contents of the home screen "Today's Readings" to be identical to the v2 "Daily Readings" panel. We didn't change how it worked, we just moved the content. I'm not sure what would have caused it to add your other reading plans to the list.

Dan said:

It now feels like a proper Android app.

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Ken Guenther said:

One drawback though to having the sliding Navigation Drawer when viewing a notes file is that it is really easy to inadvertently delete a note when trying to open the drawer.

Good feedback.

Kevin A. Purcell said:

Also is there a problem opening the nav panel from the presentations screen? I can't but it may be me.

Currently the Presentation Settings and the normal app settings open in their own screens and you can't access the nav drawer from them (you have to press "back" to return to the main screen).

Dale Eads said:

I'm seeing a big gap between the title bar and text. Also can we adjust the font size of the title bar so the whole book name appears?

I don't think the size of the gap between the title bar and text has changed, but I could be wrong. I'll look into it. The cut off book titles is one of our "Known Issues"...we're planning on doing some work so that it will display the short or abbreviated resource title if there's not room to show the full title.

Dale Eads said:

Oh, and full screen again. Would like that back.

There was much debate (and quite a bit of research) before we decided to get rid of full screen. The reason we ended up turning it off is because there are actually quite a few bugs with full screen apps in Android. The behavior varied widely between different Android versions, and it almost never did exactly what we wanted it to. We think that by sacrificing those top few pixels to show the status bar, we can bring you a much better overall experience in the app.

This is coming along great! Loving the new layout!

This issue is showing up on my HTC One but not on my Nexus 7 2012. The books are showing cut off on the right hand side.

Randy W. Sims said:

Although the new interface mitigates quite a few of my previous suggestions/desires for gestures, I'm still up for additional gesture support.

Randy, when you last posted about adding gesture support, it was very hard to keep the redesign a secret. [:D]

Randy W. Sims said:

While hopefully keeping paging the default.  All the best books work that way; not too many scrolls on my bookshelf.  I know there are a lot of different (and strong) opinions on it, and I respect that, but IME navigation while reading works best a chunk at a time: It's fairly easy to get lost with continuous scrolling.

I don't own any scrolls but apps on computers and screen devices, e.g. web browsers, etc, work on the principle of scrolling. Vertical scrolling is also how I read resources on the main Logos 5 software. It would be nice to be given options to read by vertical scrolling or by (horizontal) paging, and perhaps also vertical paging (e.g. as in Feedly app and Flipboard app on smartphone). 

I am using the amazon kindle fire hd and I cannot download from the google store. Where can I download this beta?

I found out a suggestion of mine had been completed and they said the fix was in the latest Beta.  Wow, what an upgrade!  So many nice changes that I had to comment on it.  I have a Nexus 7 wireless only. 

* I like the new menus - much easier to navigate and closer to the desktop version. 

* I like the color coded verse look-up.  Much easier to find a verse quickly (like when your pastor gives a verse ref. and immediately starts reading). 

* I like the 2 finger scroll. 

Suggestion:  Since I do so much of my use in off-line mode the info feature for a selected word in the Bible could be improved.  Currently it only allows you to look up the word in your default Bible.  Perhaps a look-up of a user-selectable resource when in off-line mode?  I have some good resources like the BDAG, ISBE, or some other lexicon/dictionary/encyclopedia that would be useful.  Perhaps the user could select one for NT and another for OT look-ups?

Anyway, terrific work!  Can't wait to see it in the main version.

Bill

RAusdahl said:

Any feel at Logos as to when this might go from Beta to Stable?

We're getting very close. The Android app is pretty much ready at this point, but there are a lot of departments coordinating on the Logos Mobile v4 release, so there's still some stuff that needs to get done before the apps can go stable. The iOS apps need to be ready to release at the same time, we need all new marketing materials, tutorial videos...you get the idea. But I think we're close [:)]

Drew Hannay said:

RAusdahl said:

Any feel at Logos as to when this might go from Beta to Stable?

We're getting very close. The Android app is pretty much ready at this point, but there are a lot of departments coordinating on the Logos Mobile v4 release, so there's still some stuff that needs to get done before the apps can go stable. The iOS apps need to be ready to release at the same time, we need all new marketing materials, tutorial videos...you get the idea. But I think we're close

That's good news, can't waiting.