Computer comparison for running Logos

Austin Decker
Austin Decker Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

If you had to pick one to with for running Logos faster and smoother, which would you pick?

Here are my options.. both with a SSD:

Duel Core i7 2.8GHz with 3.3Ghz Turbo Boost

Quad Core i7 2.6GHz with 3.8Ghz Turbo Boost

Which is better for running Logos better?

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭
    How about a Cray computer?

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,207

    Needs to be portable

    Choose the quad core as it will index faster.

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  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Quad Core i7 2.6GHz with 3.8Ghz Turbo Boost

    Both should run Logos fine but I'd go with the Quad Core.

    Logos 7 Collectors Edition

  • Austin Decker
    Austin Decker Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    Will it run the program faster too? I have heard the more GHz you have the better it will run the program, but the more cores (like you said) will index faster.

  • Austin Decker
    Austin Decker Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,141

    May I ask why you would pick the quad core?

    Quad core will be able to index with all four cores, reducing the indexing time.

    Additionally, you stated that the Quad Core has a faster Turbo Boost speed, so when Logos is only using one core, it will run faster. It's a win/win.

    Finally, by having four cores, you'll be able to run other CPU-intensive programs in parallel with Logos.

  • Scott S
    Scott S Member Posts: 423 ✭✭

    Will it run the program faster too? I have heard the more GHz you have the better it will run the program, but the more cores (like you said) will index faster.

    Another way to look at the reason for a quad core, is that Logos frequently runs the library indexing process in the background which is very demanding on the CPU. This is happening while you are using Logos. The additional cores of the quad core CPU handle the demand from indexing without bogging down the foreground Logos app. This makes for the best user experience.

    Another point, the difference in clock speed between 2.6 and 2.8Ghz (8%) is trivial on overall system performance. It is only measurable by carefully controlled tests.

    Quad core and SSD is the hot setup for Logos.

    Edited.

  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭

    Definitely the Quad Core i7 2.6GHz with 3.8Ghz Turbo Boost.

  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭

    Somsel">How about a Cray computer?

    I would love to have one of those (just 1) for show & tell and just to play around with, however, the utility cost and extra space required would put me in the dark and out on the street. [:D]

  • Austin Decker
    Austin Decker Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    You said in another post:

    "The work that Logos performs is distributed to background threads (that can run on other cores) whenever possible. However, code that interacts with the user interface may only run on one thread, so the app will feel faster if you purchase a higher-speed processor (with fewer cores)."

    When I read this post in quotation marks, it makes me think I should go with a faster processor, but when I read the one at the top, you make me feel like The quad core would do a better job. I am slightly confused as to which one you think would be better?

  • Austin Decker
    Austin Decker Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    May I ask why you would pick the quad core?

    Quad core will be able to index with all four cores, reducing the indexing time.

    Additionally, you stated that the Quad Core has a faster Turbo Boost speed, so when Logos is only using one core, it will run faster. It's a win/win.

    Finally, by having four cores, you'll be able to run other CPU-intensive programs in parallel with Logos.

    You said in another post:

    "The work that Logos performs is distributed to background threads (that can run on other cores) whenever possible. However, code that interacts with the user interface may only run on one thread, so the app will feel faster if you purchase a higher-speed processor (with fewer cores)."

    When I read this post in quotation marks, it makes me think I should go with a faster processor, but when I read the one at the top, you make me feel like The quad core would do a better job. I am slightly confused as to which one you think would be better?

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    When I read this post in quotation marks, it makes me think I should go with a faster processor, but when I read the one at the top, you make me feel like The quad core would do a better job. I am slightly confused as to which one you think would be better?

    You're over-simplifying the scenarios, which is why you're confused. The turbo boost speed is probably more important than the standard clock speed when you're thinking about Logos. And even if it wasn't, the speed bump you'll get from going from two to four cores is much more significant than the speed bump you'll get from going from 2.6Ghz to 2.8Ghz (which is only an 8% improvement).

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  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    If you had to pick one to with for running Logos faster and smoother, which would you pick?

    Here are my options.. both with a SSD:

    Duel Core i7 2.8GHz with 3.3Ghz Turbo Boost

    Quad Core i7 2.6GHz with 3.8Ghz Turbo Boost

    Which is better for running Logos better?

    I'd vote for a (the?) slower quad core & spend the difference on an upgrade of the disk to an SSD. As soon as my i7 machine comes out of warranty & I can save the $, that's what I'll be shopping for... Problem for me right now is prices on a 480Gb SSD. I no longer think 240 is big enough, so far I haven't seen anything in between, & the price jump is more than double in most cases for the 480Gb SSD.

    If you have a quad core (any), adequate memory (at least 6Gb & a graphics card (1Gb on board memory minimum), then the only remaining bottleneck is disk--even if 7200rpm or even 10,000 rpm (WD Raptors). Only an SSD resolves that bottleneck, IMO.

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