My Black Friday

My Black Friday came early Wednesday. My wife returned from Russia, and informed me she needed a new laptop. I returned the Asus laptop I had purchased for her a few days earlier. At another store I found a nice Lenovo, with an i3 that is just perfect for her.

I happened to notice a nice little 13,3 inch Samsung on the shelf, which was slightly larger than my iPad. The Ultrabook has an i7 chip, with a 128 GB SSD, and since it had set on the shelf 4 months the manager marked it down $400. It cost me slightly more than the iPad, but weighs approximately half as much. The Ultrabook is perfect for church, and is extremely fast.

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JoshInRI

Wow, sounds great. What store was it and what is the name of the machine you were blessed with please? To keep this Logos post related.

What was the first logos link you opened to on your new treasure?

JT (alabama24)

It cost me slightly more than the iPad, but weighs approximately half as much.

An ultra book which weighs half as much as an iPad?

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547003#Comment_547003

Looks like a great deal Gary. Hope you enjoy it!

Gary Butner, Th.D.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547003#Comment_547003

Alabama, the iPad 3 weighs 1.44 lbs, but when I include the Otter Box it comes in much heavier. I have worn out a couple of iPads due to the oil on my fingers eating the baked on Corning finish.<p>The Samsung Ultrabook weighs 2.6 lbs, but that's not the whole story. I have a huge investment in my Logos Software, which I have been accumulating for 20 years. A few months ago I attended Morris Proctor's Camp Logos 1 and 2. It was expensive, however I finally learned what a valuable resource Logos is if you know how to use it. IMHO the iPad is just a glorified reader, whereas Logos on the Samsung Ultrabook, with the i7 CPU and 128 GB SSD, provides instant information. The Ultrabook expands my ability to dive even deeper into Scripture and to learn more about Christ. Lugging a reader around compared to the Ultrabook is a big difference in my mind, but that's just my opinion.

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547320#Comment_547320

Will not future updates bring feature parity? What specific features are lacking on the ipad?

iPad user. But now I feel like I am missing out on something, everything I do on my desktop, I (with 1 or 2 exceptions) reap the benefits of, or can replicate in the ios version.

Gary Butner, Th.D.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547359#Comment_547359

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iPad user. But now I feel like I am missing out on something, everything I do on my desktop, I (with 1 or 2 exceptions) reap the benefits of, or can replicate in the ios version.</I><p>

i don't know your level of expertise with Logos, but I was a Beta tester for the desktop version several years ago, and that was before there was more than one version. The desktop version is extremely sophisticated, and I know there are pastors and other users who attend Camp Logos yearly to refresh and keep on top of the program.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547359#Comment_547359

Will not future updates bring feature parity? What specific features are lacking on the ipad?

There are a lot of things which you can't do in the iPad app which you can on the desktop.

There is a Passage Guide but no Exegetical Guide. Neither are there Sermon Starter Guides or Topic Guides
You can't access Prayer Lists in the iPad app
You can't create or use Visual Filters
You can't access Clippings
You can't create Sentence Diagrams or run Syntax Searches
The Bible Facts, Bible Sense Lexicon and Timeline Tools are not accessible in the iPad app
etc

Personally I don't find these an issue in my use of the iPad app (which I use extensively and find hugely valuable) but they are examples of some of the things you can do on the desktop app but not on the mobile ones.

Additionally, there are a range of things for which you need to be connected to Logos servers - Text Comparison, Bible Word Study, Passage Guide. Again this is not a requirement when using the desktop app

As to when / if any of these will change will depend on how Logos move the app forward (and some of this will be dependent on the capability and capacity of the underlying hardware platforms)

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547320#Comment_547320

IMHO the iPad is just a glorified reader

I agree with one correction: The LOGOS app for iPad is primarily for reading (The iPad isn't a glorified reader... it is very useful for many things) and that is what I use it for. I use my laptop when I want or need more. For me, the Logos iOS app is the best way to read my resources. The desktop app is the best at study/research. Each has its purpose and place.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547417#Comment_547417

For me, the Logos iOS app is the best way to read my resources. The desktop app is the best at study/research. Each has its purpose and place.

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Gary Butner, Th.D.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547417#Comment_547417

The iPad's Retina display is hard to beat, but the Samsung's 1920 x 1080 is very easy on my old eyes.

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547414#Comment_547414

Will not future updates bring feature parity? What specific features are lacking on the ipad?

There are a lot of things which you can't do in the iPad app which you can on the desktop.

There is a Passage Guide but no Exegetical Guide. Neither are there Sermon Starter Guides or Topic Guides

You can't access Prayer Lists in the iPad app

You can't create or use Visual Filters

You can't access Clippings

You can't create Sentence Diagrams or run Syntax Searches

The Bible Facts, Bible Sense Lexicon and Timeline Tools are not accessible in the iPad app

etc

I do use the exegetical guide on my desktop, but generally speaking most of the rest of that I don't use... Perhaps when my language skills are more robust I'll use the diagramming and syntax searches a bit more. I prepare everything on my desktop/laptop, and then read what I need to on my ipad (usually).

Mike Childs

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/547359#Comment_547359

Will not future updates bring feature parity? What specific features are lacking on the ipad?

iPad user. But now I feel like I am missing out on something, everything I do on my desktop, I (with 1 or 2 exceptions) reap the benefits of, or can replicate in the ios version.

The iPad does not have enough processing power to ever run a program that will do all that Logos 5 will do. iPad is very good at what it does, but it is mostly a consumption device - an ebook reader, a great game and movie machine, and a great way to run simple apps. It does what it does well, and is one of the most successful products in history. But it is not a serious work computer, in my opinion.

Personally, I never use my iPad anymore, nor my laptop. I have found Surface Pro 2 hits just the right spot for me. It does everything I did on my iPad and my laptop. It weighs about 8 oz more than an iPad, and that 8 oz packs quite a punch. (In fact, it really weighs less if I include the cover I kept on the ipad at all times. So far I use a protective envelope to carry the Surface Pro, I do not keep any cover on it.) While expensive, the Surface Pro 2 really didn't cost much more than the laptop that I needed to replace anyway, and is cheaper than a laptop and an iPad together. It runs Logos great. It is great for reading your Logos books, including personal books, and then snapping on the keyboard for serious Logos study.

You can even take notes by hand from Logos in Onenote using the stylus, or you can cut and paste from Logos to Onenote. Onenote will convert the notes you take by hand into text.