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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,433 ✭✭✭✭

    Best I can see, the right click isn't column-aware.  Plus they have the nutty 'clear user rating' which I guess was super important at one time (just a few months back).

    Again, I agree with your thoughts.  I'm just not sure why 'the library' and 'searches' elude a company that promotes those two key areas.

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  • Matthew C Jones
    Matthew C Jones Member Posts: 10,295 ✭✭✭

    Mark said:

      There are already preset categories.  Would be nice to be able to click and switch from one Library to another in the LOGOS program,

    Yes, that would be nice.

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  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭

    Apologies I missed your other post.

    Mark said:

    I was more specific on page two of this thread.  MJ seems to have picked up on it.

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭

    Mark your ideas are not naive.  I believe a lot of what you want can be achieved with tagging and then collections built of that tagging. But I agree the tagging system still has some more improvements to be squeezed out of it but am pleased with the recent updates. I have a much larger library than yours so get the pain it is to tag, I feel I now have a system of tagging I am happy with, and so the focus is now on the grunt work.  doing bulk tagging is the key to getting through a significant amount and I use community tagging to assist in the process, but with my own system of tags along with carefully constructed filters. But keep the brainstorming coming as I said I believe there is more improvements to be squeezed out.

    Mark said:

    Brainstorming produces many poor ideas, but one brilliant one eventually. 

    In Firefox, when a url is displayed, a star in the url box is yellow if I have it already bookmarked and remains white if it is not bookmarked.  Would be very helpful as I go through my library to know if a resource that I open up is already tagged without me going into the resource information area to know the answer.  Perhaps it already is possible without doing that.  But if it is, I dont know about it.  Would also be nice to know immediately if the resource i open up is part of a collection I have already put together.  It also would be nice if making a collection was much easier than it is today...such as a drag and drop operation.

    I was not asking or suggesting (apologies if I worded things poorly) that everything could be done by Logos without me doing anything.  You are correct, Denise, that would be naive. But certainly there are categories that can be preset.  After all, there is a NOET Library already and a LOEB Library and a CIVIL WAR Library, a VYRSO Library and even a VERBUM Library.  There are already preset categories.  Would be nice to be able to click and switch from one Library to another in the LOGOS program, or to search everything (we can do that now) or just one of the LIbraries.

    Well I know I will continue to be crucified for such ideas.  Which is fine.  I realize they are not really necessary.  If I had 8500 books and magazines in my home, it would be my responsibility to put them each on a shelf where I would want them to be and where I could find things.  Yes, I could hire someone to do that work for me as well.  But most likely it is naive to think that LOGOS should work on ways to make a large and growing library more manageable. 

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭

    I use the collections filter on the library to do this sort of thing, but would line to see more preset collections like they have done with Verbum.  

    Mark said:

      There are already preset categories.  Would be nice to be able to click and switch from one Library to another in the LOGOS program,

    Yes, that would be nice.

  • David A Egolf
    David A Egolf Member Posts: 798 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    I think I understand why you want this but I would rather see a way to "switch libraries" because I (a) prefer the lower cost of maintaining less duplicate software and (b) am hoping that some text analysis tools I would like in Logos will be added for the sake of Noet.

    I'm surprised people didn't ask for "switching" when Perseus was made available.  I wouldn't mind having those books, but a lot of people were spending a lot of time figuring out how to "hide" large numbers of resources at a time.  It would have been much more interesting if I had a separate set of bookshelves just for those resources.  We wouldn't even need a "hide" capability.  Just move the selected books to a different set of shelves.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Yes, I keep calling them the the Civil War collection..it is the Perseus Library.  So many different libraries are becoming available...but unless one has advance computing skills and extra free time, we are not able to sort and organize the many resources in various ways.

    And then there is the fear...that after doing all the laborious work of tagging and manually adding books to collections etc, that a new edition of Logos will appear...and new technology will mean huge advances in the LOGOS program...but at the expense of all the tagging or laborious labor one spent time doing.  The old PBB system comes to mind. 

    My simple plea is for much more brainstorming to be done by all in hopes to help LOGOS figure out better ways to manage the Library.  This is of course related to this thread in that a resource such as Dracula would not really be an issue for many or most people if they saw it as a resource for the NOET Library or home school library... and not for their Biblical library...

    Without better abilities to manage the library,  resources like Dracula or the Perseus collection become a real problem for the person who felt the mission of LOGOS was to provide a Christian Library. 

    I am getting confused.  What is the purpose or mission of LOGOS? To this day I still don't fully understand why there is a VYSRO and NOET and LOGOS app for the tablet.  What advantage is one over the other?  Does it mean that there are people who have no interest in Christian literature...so they will download NOET and purchase only classic literature (but have the ability to purchase other literature)?  And if VYSRO books can be added to LOGOS, why have a separate category called VYSRO? And now adding different denominational base packages?  It is all getting more confusing.  Does LOGOS have a link which clearly defines now in very clear terms the differences of these packages and why one might want one above another and what is lost by not having one or another?

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭

    What about the already included Subject tagging? You can create Collections for fiction (subject:fiction), Civil War (subject:civil war), philosophy (subject:philosophy), Vyrso (edition:ebook), Perseus (publisher:perseus), Religious Texts (type:monograph -subject:(fiction,"civil war",philosphy) -publisher:perseus)

    You can separate Catholic from Reformed from Anglican using the collections available in the Faithlife group: Logos Library Theology/Denomination Tags.

    It's not as exact as creating tags yourself and all resources, notably Vyrso resources, don't include Subject tagging, but it's a good place to start from.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Randy.  Very helpful information.  I was not aware of this possibility.  Would be nice to see these to be in a drop down list so instead of having to type for example, Subject:philosophy, it would appear in the drop down. 

    Could Logos simply make this more user friendly by offering all these tags in a drop down list?

    But thanks for your post. 

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭

    Mark you can get them into the dropdown by creating a collection rule using one of the examples Randy had given.  Alternatively sort your library by the subject column.  

    Mark said:

    Thanks Randy.  Very helpful information.  I was not aware of this possibility.  Would be nice to see these to be in a drop down list so instead of having to type for example, Subject:philosophy, it would appear in the drop down. 

    Could Logos simply make this more user friendly by offering all these tags in a drop down list?

    But thanks for your post. 

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Yes, I am aware of that.  But it is not very user friendly.  Others may disagree.  It certainly is better than previous versions.